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    LonWorks training in October

    Enerlon is an Echelon Authorized Training Partner delivering LonWorks Integration training in Southern California.
    Current course offerings include LonWorks Network Design, LNS Network Tools, and...
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    KP, didn't you know that LonTalk is an approved...

    KP, didn't you know that LonTalk is an approved Bacnet transport? The new Echelon chip will let you send your beloved Backnet over FT-10.

    Believe me, I don't need to justify my protocol of...
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    Heres the real question Mstp or ft10? Lb

    Heres the real question
    Mstp or ft10?

    Lb
  4. Thread: VVT Questions

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    install a barometric damper and dump the excess...

    install a barometric damper and dump the excess air into a hallway or warehouse.
    use average zone terminal load to enable heat or cool
    use a pid to cycle heat or cool to maintain a terminal load...
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    i guess I'm one of those derelicts. Haven't...

    i guess I'm one of those derelicts. Haven't posted here in a while as i've been busy overcomplicating buildings.

    I don't know much about Backnet and don't care to learn. I do know a little about...
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    In your LNS machine the resource files are in the...

    In your LNS machine the resource files are in the C:/Lonworks/Types folder
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    From page 132 of the SmartServer user guide.... ...

    From page 132 of the SmartServer user guide....

    If the devices on you network have user-defined network variable types (UNVTs) or user-defined
    configuration property types (UCPTs), copy the...
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    I really dislike those distech numeric variables....

    I really dislike those distech numeric variables. They are non-standard type and a real pita to deal with.
    Make sure you've loaded the Distech resource files into the smart server. Then you should...
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    if you have an iLON - create a translator...

    if you have an iLON - create a translator function block and rule to convert a nvoUnitStatus_cooloutput network variable type to an output network variable type of SNVT_HVAC_STATUS.
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    LON TRAIN RUNNING FEBRUARY IN SO CAL

    Are you ready to learn how to deploy the standard for interoperable multi-vendor building controls?

    Discover how to create and manage multi-vendor control networks by attending a ´hands-on´...
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    plus my vfd with a lon card and an lon internet...

    plus my vfd with a lon card and an lon internet server!
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    just give me a standard thermostat interface, a...

    just give me a standard thermostat interface, a lon programmable, and a couple dewpoint transmitters
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    what do control techs eat?

    how lucky we are as field techs to experience such a wide variety of culinary art in our travels.

    today it was a canadian bacon breakfast at country folks in sepulveda , a double chili...
  14. Thread: Lon Bind

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    if you're using lonmaker you can create visio...

    if you're using lonmaker you can create visio custom properties for connection shapes and define fields for things like source, destination, pkts per second, message type, pkts per transaction, etc. ...
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    wasn't life so much simpler back in the LON days?...

    wasn't life so much simpler back in the LON days?
    lb
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    forget osa/ra enthalpy comparison for economizer...

    forget osa/ra enthalpy comparison for economizer control

    small difference in rh/temp accuracy equals large energy/capacity loss

    better to use dewpoint transmitter from rotronics or airtest
    ...
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    building automation - system integration with...

    building automation - system integration with open protocols

    http://www.enerlon.com/?page_id=979
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    Yes, they are alive and well now under a new name...

    Yes, they are alive and well now under a new name - Efficient Building Automation Company EBAC - www.circon.com
    Excellent products, support, and pricing.
    Fraser Newton is the sales guy and Mikey is...
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    LON Training Running

    Are you ready to learn how to deploy the dark side of building controls?

    Discover how to create and manage multi-vendor control networks by attending a ´hands-on´ LonWorks technology training...
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    i hear that. my escapes also involve a 450 KTM -...

    i hear that. my escapes also involve a 450 KTM - but mine has no front brake and only turns left!

    seems like there are a lot of ac mechs who ride the 2 wheeled off road death machines! might make...
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    now that's funny - don't care who you are! ...

    now that's funny - don't care who you are!

    Wish I could take a vacation. Never taken more than a long weekend in my 58 years. And even then had to put out some fires from the river campground over...
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    I can't tell ya how many times I've had to...

    I can't tell ya how many times I've had to connect and overide some setpoint in between the heat race and the main. I look forward to the day when all I need to carry is my iPhone.
    cheers,
    lb
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    I discovered the dates I booked the Motel6 were...

    I discovered the dates I booked the Motel6 were wrong and found there are no available hotel rooms in Dallas - I found website where I booked a guest room at a local home owned by Paige for half the...
  24. Thread: First Bacnet

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    Oh and let's not forget ft10 speed and...

    Oh and let's not forget ft10 speed and through-put also vastly superior to ms/tp
  25. Thread: First Bacnet

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    Ya, i limit my control networks to fewer issues....

    Ya, i limit my control networks to fewer issues.
    Plus free topology, noise immunity, and way longer segment lengths
    You wanna have a wager?
    Ft10 vs ms/tp?

    You must love Backnet time and...
  26. Thread: First Bacnet

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    Sorry to hijack your thread but I couldn't...

    Sorry to hijack your thread but I couldn't resist...

    Ft-10 is polarity insensitive = electrician friendly! Us Lonboys don't have these issues.

    No way would I ever consider an archaic...
  27. Thread: AHR Roll Call

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    Nodes, Shall the control junkies congregate in...

    Nodes,
    Shall the control junkies congregate in Chicago?
    I propose a beer to beer architecture to examine open protocols.
    Cheers
    Lb
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    Why don't you call your local ALC vendor for...

    Why don't you call your local ALC vendor for support?
    lb
  29. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    LNS supports client/server architectures for...

    LNS supports client/server architectures for network tools. You can have a single machine (in the cloud. office, or at the jobsite) that hosts the LNS database and allows multiple LNS tools to access...
  30. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    How do the Bacnet control devices typically...

    How do the Bacnet control devices typically behave during this 'Reboot' event?
    Do they suspend their application?

    How would you create a failsafe connection where if an upstream device say a...
  31. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    OK, so let me get this straight. If I have the...

    OK, so let me get this straight. If I have the token, I can only access the media and transmit my message packet during my own unique deterministic time slot. Kinda like having my own car pool lane...
  32. Said well Crabster. I'm sure the Phreak meant no...

    Said well Crabster. I'm sure the Phreak meant no ill. Probably a BADnet day! Hey, I've had a few of those myself - the LON train can occasionally be derailed too!
    Cheers,
    lb
  33. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    So at 38.4kb/sec about 20 or so polling...

    So at 38.4kb/sec about 20 or so polling transactions a second
    At 78kb/sec about 40?
    Compared to around 160 or so event driven updates with FT10

    I make a point of throughput because this is what...
  34. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    I'm trying to understand how peer to peer device...

    I'm trying to understand how peer to peer device traffic is managed in an MSTP network. On a LON network, configured routers include routing tables and selectively forward packets based on the...
  35. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    I'd like to focus on characteristics and...

    I'd like to focus on characteristics and performance if possible.
    BTW, there are several thousand manufacturers that use LON in their devices and there is no licensing fee to use or install an FT10...
  36. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    MSTP vs FT10

    I don't know a lot about MSTP but have quite a bit of experience with FT10.
    Here's the basic properties of Echelon's twisted pair channel,

    Can be run in free or bus topology
    Polarity...
  37. Let's take that to a new thread - MSTP vs FT10

    Let's take that to a new thread - MSTP vs FT10
  38. Kontrol, Thanks for the insights to a real world...

    Kontrol,
    Thanks for the insights to a real world example. I hope you keep us in the loop regarding the issues and success you observe as this network grows and evolves. My guess is that it is a...
  39. Gents, thanks for the informative responses. ...

    Gents, thanks for the informative responses.

    From an independent integrators perspective I'm a little confused regarding a Bacnet multivendor network. I would need device vendor specific software...
  40. OK, thanks - now a few questions regarding...

    OK, thanks - now a few questions regarding Bacnet,

    What software tool do you use to assign the device an address?

    How do you change a device configuration - example - change the PID throttling...
  41. Interoperable control networks that are truly open

    Show me a network of building controls that uses the Bacnet protocol in a truly open and interoperable way where control devices freely available from multiple manufacturers share information in a...
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    all device communication peer to peer? No...

    all device communication peer to peer? No gateways or network managers?
    All communication using the same protocol?
    All commissioned using one tool?
    Callin bull**** on this one
    Lets take it to a...
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    Kinda like your football team lb

    Kinda like your football team
    lb
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    BAC, you should do your homework. LonTalk...

    BAC, you should do your homework. LonTalk throughput does not drop to 0 at saturation. The majority of packets get through even under the most stressful network conditons. That's why the US Navy...
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    I guess "What's new" is 1 building that includes...

    I guess "What's new" is 1 building that includes a control network of over 300 devices from 10 different manufacturers all communicating peer-to-peer with no gateway, no master controller, and no...
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    The way the law reads here is that it is illegal...

    The way the law reads here is that it is illegal to us a hand held device to communicate to another person while driving - i'm talking to a building. Really no different than you using your gps while...
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    Wow, 30 - 40 transactions a second max bandwidth!...

    Wow, 30 - 40 transactions a second max bandwidth!
    LON on FT-10 easily does that *4 with 2 wires and polarity don't matter. Oh, and can be over a mile in length per segment.
    Hey, let's have a...
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    Ya, and as I was driving down the freeway today...

    Ya, and as I was driving down the freeway today with my iPad velcro'd to my steerng wheel - I raised the setpoint in the cardio bar tstat. Then, the chiller at the video lab sent me a text message...
  49. Thread: AHR Roll Call

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    AHR Roll Call

    Ok control junkies,
    Who's in?

    Lb will be in the house,
    dressed in black,
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    Wow, that week went fast. Many thanks to the AAP...

    Wow, that week went fast.
    Many thanks to the AAP folks in Springfield for sponsoring this training. The class of 9 did well and picked up LON quickly. We had a few with years of LON and those who...
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