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  1. If there are no union techs available within the...

    If there are no union techs available within the zone needed to respond to the 2 hr response time, the question begs asking. Are you willing to move to a new city so you are within the response zone?...
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    Webco Engineering Parts

    Anybody having any luck sourcing parts for old Webco units?
    I see they were taken over by Mammoth then shut down last year in Springfield, MO.
    The unit has been a real workhorse for 20 years as a...
  3. OP, if your still working on this job. I looked...

    OP, if your still working on this job.
    I looked over your hand drawn connections and it has some issues if it actually piped that way.
    Step 1. reconnect all devices per the diagram on the terminal...
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    In my experience almost all large tonnage units...

    In my experience almost all large tonnage units use LLS, for anti migration, less load on the compressor on startup and a simple on/off control for cooling at the air handler.
  5. yes, you are correct, assuming you have adequate...

    yes, you are correct, assuming you have adequate main air (20 psi)
  6. Here is the installation sheet for that relay....

    Here is the installation sheet for that relay.
    Not a lot of adjustment needed, more of a verifying operation
    http://www.kmccontrols.com/images/com_kmcproducts/products_documents/10701903.pdf
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    Thanks for the great ideas and offers to help....

    Thanks for the great ideas and offers to help.
    Waiting on the source files from the mfg now and will try to reload them onto the existing controllers.
    If they don't come through or the controllers...
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    Thanks all, I didn't think it would be easy...

    Thanks all,
    I didn't think it would be easy under any scenario. These units have been fighting us since day one.
    These will be the last units I ever allow to be sourced off shore due to the...
  9. The elephant in the room is your 8 psi main...

    The elephant in the room is your 8 psi main pressure. until you get that up to at least 13 psi none of the controls are going to work and you'll be defaulting into heat or at minimum no cooling.
    I...
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    Would love this option (E-Bay), but I work for a...

    Would love this option (E-Bay), but I work for a city that just now found out there's an interweb thingy out there so credit cards and internet purchases are not on the radar.
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    No they're not connected to the 5 pin, they are...

    No they're not connected to the 5 pin, they are on the 2 wire Net- & Net+.
    PETRA calls the controller the "PACKAGE UNIT CONTROLLER ALC-I/O CNTRL-E|FOR MULTI" (where MULTI stands for Multi Zone, on...
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    I agree the expanders have no native...

    I agree the expanders have no native intelligence. I believe that is all handled by the Controller-E
    Controller:http://s19.postimg.org/jaziwj0cz/IO_Contr_E.jpg
    Expander:...
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    Thanks for the comments, The units were...

    Thanks for the comments,
    The units were commissioned in 2007.
    the I/O Controller-E takes care of a couple of I/O 8168-R point expanders.
    I'm looking for a replacement controller that will still...
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    WebCtrl I/O Controller-E

    I may have a couple corrupted Controllers on some roof tops I am servicing.
    Trying to get the original back up files from the original control contractor and the manufacturer (PETRA).
    As you can...
  15. Bump for one more week

    Reminder One more week to apply!!!

    APPROVED C.S.C MINUTES 6/12/15 de ANNOUNCEMENT NO. 76A BUILDING STATIONARY ENGINEER (OPEN)
    Public notice is hereby given by the Civil Service Commission...
  16. Applications for City Of Cleveland HVAC Techs

    The City of Cleveland Ohio is accepting applications for Civil Service testing by resume.
    Information attached.
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    I/O Controller-E

    I have a number of I/O Controller-E on some rooftops I am servicing.
    There are BacView 2's connected to access them but they seem to be display only locked.
    I cannot reset alarms or adjust set...
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    Sorry I have been advised that I lack the proper...

    Sorry I have been advised that I lack the proper credentials to assist any further at this point

    Sent from my Thunderbolt
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    Anymore info forthcoming? Gas pressure? Flapper...

    Anymore info forthcoming?
    Gas pressure?
    Flapper condition?
    Butterfly valve position?
    Hi fire combustion setting shown on the display?

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    If the unit was under contract for...

    If the unit was under contract for repairs/replacement, you need to have a "one on one" talk with the maintenance guy who just tried to barbecue you.
    If you applied the lockout to warn others of...
  21. Thread: Fred

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    Fred, Here is the formula. Height of chimney X...

    Fred,
    Here is the formula.
    Height of chimney X n% = max length of c vent

    Sent from my Thunderbolt
  22. Is the rumble just on startup? Does it smooth out...

    Is the rumble just on startup? Does it smooth out after settling into the main flame run period?
    If its is just on light off of the main flame, I would watch the intial lightoff manifold pressures...
  23. Thread: Fred

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    0 feet if your dumping into a chimney Sent...

    0 feet if your
    dumping into a chimney

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    All good HVAC techs do good electrical. Not many...

    All good HVAC techs do good electrical.
    Not many electricians do good HVAC.
    Pick a lane and stay in it.

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    Before i get into all the issues being brought...

    Before i get into all the issues being brought up, a little clarity on the 30 ton change out and the non condenseables statement. Are there multiple circuits or was the compressor changed out without...
  26. If i understood your CA numbers, you stated you...

    If i understood your CA numbers, you stated you had co present. Your rumble is the flame pulsing from a lack of enough air for proper combustion, hence the co also being present. What was the wc for...
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    I joined over 20 years ago when I was fairly new...

    I joined over 20 years ago when I was fairly new to the trade. Allowed my membership lapse after a year or so.
    Just rejoined last month and the first chapter meeting is coming up Sept 11. Looking...
  28. Worked on some old Trane units with 3 to 6 fans...

    Worked on some old Trane units with 3 to 6 fans and at least 1 fan would start with the compressor, the rest would cycle on and off based on condenser pressures

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  29. What was temperature of the actual oil return...

    What was temperature of the actual oil return line? Where does it terminate? At the top or bottom of the suction loop.
  30. Thread: just asking.

    by pnagel180
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    Check out local government jobs. I hire...

    Check out local government jobs. I hire ex-offenders who have kept clean after doing their time. It usually works out more than not.

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    If i was in a pinch, i would try a broken ceramic...

    If i was in a pinch, i would try a broken ceramic igniter to get through the day and order up a replacement or salvage a used one.

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  32. Thread: hoses

    by pnagel180
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    In my experience the black hoses are heavy duty...

    In my experience the black hoses are heavy duty and for deeper vacuum.

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  33. Sticky: I just renewed my RSES membership that I let...

    I just renewed my RSES membership that I let lapse over 20 years ago. It will be interesting to see some of the guys running it, who were some of my instructors back when i was in trade school.
    ...
  34. Sticky: My bad. You are correct it was an AOP forum. ...

    My bad. You are correct it was an AOP forum.

    Sent from my Thunderbolt
  35. Sticky: Well I just got my first spanking for replying to...

    Well I just got my first spanking for replying to a pro forum. I tend to subscribe to threads that are of interest to me and on impulse added my 2 cents and got deleted shortly after.

    Sent from my...
  36. This is the Ask Our Pro's forum, and only Pro...

    This is the Ask Our Pro's forum, and only Pro members that have been vetted by the AOPC may post advise, commentary, or ask questions of the OP here.

    You can find the rules for posting and...
  37. Sticky: First time the copper thieves got on the roof...

    First time the copper thieves got on the roof they completely stripped out the Trane and damaged the Petras. We had the Petras repaired and was waiting for a new Trane when they hit the Petras again...
  38. Sticky: We are having a rash of copper thefts lately. The...

    We are having a rash of copper thefts lately. The miscreants are getting up on a two story roof to strip out the heavy pipe and distributor bundles. Second time this month. Now I am looking into...
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    We are currently constructing some new municipal...

    We are currently constructing some new municipal buildings. As part of the design review process we are asking for LEED Gold. The basis of design for our HVAC units has included digital scrolls and...
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    Wow I just read through 6 pages to make sure my...

    Wow I just read through 6 pages to make sure my comment would not be redundant and the OP fixed it with my soon to be proposed suggestion on the 6th page. Which would have been
    "get to remaking all...
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    A very simple formula. Service tech + crazy...

    A very simple formula.
    Service tech + crazy hours = stre$$
    In-house maintenance + steady schedule = happy wife

    When i got out of trade school I asked my wife if she wanted a big paycheck or me...
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    Wrapping some copper wire around the spot to be...

    Wrapping some copper wire around the spot to be repaired has produced the most success in my experience.

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    Sticky: Poll: HVAC & Building Engineer by trade, currently...

    HVAC & Building Engineer by trade, currently oversee a large city in-house maintenance and capital repair operation. Miss the tools but enjoying the pay
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    Trade School Grads

    Has anybody had good luck with HVAC & Building Engineering candidates from the local trade schools in the Cleveland, OH area?
    Ever since the old West Side Institute of Technology closed, it seems...
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