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    One would expect a fitter's local to be less...

    One would expect a fitter's local to be less favorable for HVAC/R service technicians since the majority of fitters do not do service work. A service local or HVAC/R service local would be most...
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    I believe DVJ MES means: Division Trades...

    I believe DVJ MES means:
    Division Trades Journeyman - Mechanical Equipment Service
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    It's not a Canadian thing. Example: UA Local 12...

    It's not a Canadian thing. Example: UA Local 12 (Boston), Plumbers and GasFitters.
    A Gas Fitter is typically a natural gas and/or propane fitter.

    Gas Fitter is one of the three founding trades of...
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    The easiest way to explain this is probably to...

    The easiest way to explain this is probably to replace some of the words in your post. Original word(s) in [ ]. I'm not mocking you. I'm just trying to present an analogy that might help put this in...
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    No. Absolutely not. I'm told it's popular up here...

    No. Absolutely not. I'm told it's popular up here because it's the lowest priced.
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    Controls programming. This is an example of a...

    Controls programming. This is an example of a controls language:

    ftp://ftp.controliq.com/Diags/Delta%20Controls/Documents/OWS%20Ref/ORCAview%203.22%20Manual/11_GCL+322.pdf
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    For the shops where controls is a company-direct...

    For the shops where controls is a company-direct or non-union position, do controls guys make more, less or the same as the trades guys who are "on the tools"?

    I'm wondering cause in the shop I...
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    Congrats. If not covered in orientation, I...

    Congrats.

    If not covered in orientation, I would ask about the hiring / dispatch process. Every Local has it's own dispatch rules. Here in Local 170, just about every apprentice service mechanic...
  9. It's probably not much different than any other...

    It's probably not much different than any other pipe trade worker. We're a UA shop and our Foremen and General Foremen positions have usually been filled by promoting a Journeyman. Many of our...
  10. The trade of HVAC/R Service Technician does not...

    The trade of HVAC/R Service Technician does not exist in these parts. Trades in BC are regulated and "designated", that is defined by the provincial government. UA trade classifications are...
  11. When we're comparing "HVAC" vs "BT", are we...

    When we're comparing "HVAC" vs "BT", are we actually comparing service technician/mechanic vs construction worker?
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    ITA is a publicly funded agency established by...

    ITA is a publicly funded agency established by the Industry Training Authority Act of British Columbia.
    BCIT is a publicly funded institution governed by the College and Institute Act of British...
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    I shouldn't pretend to know how other Locals...

    I shouldn't pretend to know how other Locals work, but some things just don't make sense. I am a UA member and the dispatch practices in my Local isn't about politics. We have a general journeyman...
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    That section basically states: 1. You drive...

    That section basically states:

    1. You drive from shop to home, that is a taxable benefit.
    2. You drive from home to shop, that is a taxable benefit.

    3. You drive from home to customer or...
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    It can vary quite a bit between markets. Take the...

    It can vary quite a bit between markets. Take the journeyman wage rate in the market you're looking at and multiply by 35% to 50%. I guess that should get you pretty close to realistic expectations...
  16. It seems that in Texas, self defence means the...

    It seems that in Texas, self defence means the right to defend oneself, one's property, one's family and one's home from an intruder. In Canada, self defence means the right to run from an intruder.
  17. The concepts of equality, neutrality, fairness,...

    The concepts of equality, neutrality, fairness, freedom of religion and thought etc. are all very noble.
    But, what we have in practice today is more appropriately called "reverse discrimination".
  18. Thread: JCI

    by wundumguy
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    It can take a bit to go through the formal...

    It can take a bit to go through the formal recruitment process with a bigger organization. I know one tech that was hired by JCI a few years ago and it took a couple of weeks from hiring decision to...
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    People still have to eat and have families to...

    People still have to eat and have families to feed. It's easy for guys with union jobs in this recession. But for those without, a recession with no end in sight, bills to pay, kids to feed, the...
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    Sure we do... as long as the unit comes with a...

    Sure we do... as long as the unit comes with a reversing valve. LOL.

    Ok, back to being serious, we do need A/C in the commercial and institutional markets. Resi and light commercial A/C market...
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    Local apprentice membership processes vary. ...

    Local apprentice membership processes vary.

    Several members of my class, including myself didn't know much about the industry or anyone in the UA prior to the decision to apply to Local 170. One...
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    Like many other vocations, wages for workers in...

    Like many other vocations, wages for workers in the HVAC industry is a function of factors like the minimum cost of living, supply of labor, and demand for service in the regional economy. Depending...
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    It is probably best to obtain contact info from...

    It is probably best to obtain contact info from website and contact them directly.

    Unions and their local affiliates implement recruitment policies at the local membership level. I believe most...
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    You mean IUOE Local 399, Chicago, IL.? ...

    You mean IUOE Local 399, Chicago, IL.?

    Website:
    http://www.iuoe399.org/Home/tabid/881/Default.aspx

    Spring class schedule:...
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    Any certified trades person can pick up a...

    Any certified trades person can pick up a subsequent trade. It is only a question of how much or if any cross program technical training or trade work experience credit is awarded.

    In British...
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    Canadian health care is not free and is funded...

    Canadian health care is not free and is funded mostly by taxes.
    Obviously, if I'm not paying for it directly, my taxes are being used to pay for it. The average Canadian pays nowhere close to 35% in...
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    In good economic conditions the business degree...

    In good economic conditions the business degree would be entirely in your favour, for obvious reasons. But in this climate where college grads look forward to jobs at McD's, the apprenticeship...
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    That is probably among the best methods. I've...

    That is probably among the best methods. I've encountered few organizations prepared to make that kind of investment.
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    Non union compensation packages vary widely from...

    Non union compensation packages vary widely from one company to another. Union compensation packages for HVAC related trades: plumber, pipefitter, refrigeration mechanic and sheet metal workers in BC...
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    Techs are given the option to attend both courses...

    Techs are given the option to attend both courses offered at schools and those by manufacturers. Occassionally, attending a course may be mandatory. The organization pays for course tuition and wages...
  31. Thread: Travel pay

    by wundumguy
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    First of all, even a lowly janitor can receive...

    First of all, even a lowly janitor can receive transportation compensation to and from work. Secondly, not all employers are incompetent, and some don't need to steal from their employees. Third,...
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    Click:...

    Click: http://www.uacanada.ca/about_find_local.php

    and scroll down to Ontario locals.

    United Association represents following trades:
    Refrigeration and A/C Mechanic;
    Steamfitter-Pipefitter;...
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    You make pre-apprentice like assumptions. Most...

    You make pre-apprentice like assumptions. Most found HVAC apprenticeships without 2yr diplomas. If you could find an HVAC apprenticeship, would you be in school right now? I didn't think so. But the...
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    It's possible to do it in certain jurisdictions....

    It's possible to do it in certain jurisdictions.

    For example, in BC:

    In BC, a person can apprentice in multiple trades, related or not. Basically, each employer or sponsor, independently...
  35. Fiberglass Insulation - Respirator Required?

    When we cut the return opening into a Furnace, are we required to utilize some kind of respirator device to deal with fiberglass fiber?
  36. Thread: Job Dilemma

    by wundumguy
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    Unless there are unusual circumstances, an...

    Unless there are unusual circumstances, an apprentice should always take the job that offers the most varied and meaningful experiences.
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    Class A - - any gas system except vehicle -...

    Class A -
    - any gas system except vehicle
    - Three phase power integral to equipment

    Eligibility for Class A -
    - Pass Class A exam, and
    - Have held Class B for minimum of 2 years.

    Class B -
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    No. It is not the norm. There does exist some...

    No. It is not the norm. There does exist some unusual or less common agreements between employers and their technicians. One guy in our company does pay for his own gas, but unlike your situation,...
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    The management and owners of that company should...

    The management and owners of that company should be tortured, then shot.
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    When my boss/company is good to me, I've given as...

    When my boss/company is good to me, I've given as much as 4 months notice so they could comfortable find and train a replacement. When my boss/employer is a jerk, I've gone so far as to stay at home...
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    Apprentice Job with NO Apprenticeship

    I'm in school right now and write the plumber journeyman exam in July. One of my classmates works for his dad. He's surprised that my employer not only gives me a raise when I pass the exam, but will...
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    Does anyone know, on a economic downturn, if the...

    Does anyone know, on a economic downturn, if the union shops (and tech employment) have the same decline in sales/work as the non-union shops?
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    Time (already) served waiting for trial plus 5...

    Time (already) served waiting for trial plus 5 years?

    I mean it's just a guess. Not like I would know these things.
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    http://site.ua72.org/ found it at...

    http://site.ua72.org/

    found it at http://ua.org/links.asp
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    pssst. don't tell anyone, but uhm... where's a...

    pssst. don't tell anyone, but uhm... where's a safe place to cross the border? :)
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    I've never run across one. But, we do have the...

    I've never run across one. But, we do have the boxed in condos with the furnace in an underground basement. :)
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    Contractors in BC can no longer acquire mid...

    Contractors in BC can no longer acquire mid efficiency furnaces, but can sell remaining stock. Many (maybe even most) stocked up last winter. There's gonna be lots of really upset homeowners real...
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    sorry, misclick.

    sorry, misclick.
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    I don't get it. If every company has to pay...

    I don't get it.

    If every company has to pay for employee health insurance, just like every company has to pay for wages, rent, taxes, office supplies, equipment, etc. how does that adversely...
  50. How did you put the fire out?

    How did you put the fire out?
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