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  1. So you admit that if the citizenry elects...

    So you admit that if the citizenry elects constitutional conservatives like Pence they can expect them to fold under pressure. Weren't they supposed to be the saviors of this nation with their bold...
  2. If this is such an easy issue to deal with why...

    If this is such an easy issue to deal with why did the gutless Governor not just say it is OK for someone to deny service to someone based on their own religious beliefs? Personally any of these laws...
  3. Give me a break, gay mafia, really. I am trying...

    Give me a break, gay mafia, really. I am trying to picture what a member of this gay mafia looks like, maybe he would be wearing a rainbow colored Armani suit? This is just too funny.
  4. What you right wingers are missing is that many...

    What you right wingers are missing is that many businesses and the majority of real Americans are not on your side.

    By the way aren't conservatives in favor of SMALL government, if you are true...
  5. Yes, I can answer a direct question unlike the...

    Yes, I can answer a direct question unlike the wimpy conservative Governor. Let me see if I can make it clearer for you.

    The Christian, Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, etc should just bake the damn cake...
  6. I treat ANY customer in a business like manner....

    I treat ANY customer in a business like manner. They want a service - I provide the service (sometimes with a smile) - they pay me for the service. Simple. Don't much care about their appearance,...
  7. Wasn't this law about "protecting" religious...

    Wasn't this law about "protecting" religious freedom? Isn't that singling out a "group". You guys are talking out of both sides of your mouth - just like Pence. If you want to stand by an ideology...
  8. My question is why did the governor wimp out - he...

    My question is why did the governor wimp out - he couldn't even answer a simple yes or no question. The way I see it, if you are going to support something have the intestinal fortitude to man up and...
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    I just knew that somehow it was Obama's fault -...

    I just knew that somehow it was Obama's fault - now get off my lawn!
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    When the only tool you have is a hammer every...

    When the only tool you have is a hammer every problem looks like a big government progressive - oh sorry I meant nail. :grin2:

    Single payer universal health care - it is the obvious choice for...
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    Childish insults and arrogance are standard fare...

    Childish insults and arrogance are standard fare for these new conservatives. Have you seen the great video of the dancing governor?
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    I guess you didn't see one of your heroes (Pence)...

    I guess you didn't see one of your heroes (Pence) fail Sunday morning. It was quite interesting typical but interesting.
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    This is why it is a waste of time trying to argue...

    This is why it is a waste of time trying to argue logic with these new conservatives. They bob and weave and will not answer a direct question. Did anybody see Mike Pence (Governor of Indiana) on the...
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    It is easy to blame the bogey man (progressives)...

    It is easy to blame the bogey man (progressives) when the solution you suggest has never accomplished anything. These new conservatives have plenty of ideas but no real plan, when pinned down they...
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    So you still believe the downturn was caused by...

    So you still believe the downturn was caused by people not being able or not wanting to pay their mortgages.

    Keep right on thinking that - your corporate masters would be proud. Unbelievable.
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    Reconciling what is in the Constitution and the...

    Reconciling what is in the Constitution and the free market as it is currently envisioned by the right wing requires a certain disconnect from the principles this country used in writing the...
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    At least you got the first part right.

    At least you got the first part right.
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    Your lack of understanding is really astounding....

    Your lack of understanding is really astounding. Your crystal ball can tell you what will happen 10-20 years into the future but you can't see what has happened in recent times and what will happen...
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    So you are perfectly Ok with verizon, ATT,...

    So you are perfectly Ok with verizon, ATT, Time-Warner, Comcast, etc deciding what content they will provide and what will be blocked? It is also OK for these beneficent corporations to decide to...
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    It wasn't you whipster? We all know you have such...

    It wasn't you whipster? We all know you have such sensitive sensibilities.
    :whistle:

    Nice of you to drive by though.
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    I just want to know where all this clap-trap...

    I just want to know where all this clap-trap about net neutrality originated? If you are basing your opinions on this sort of drivel I have a better understanding of why you think the way you do. You...
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    I have a very good understanding of how the free...

    I have a very good understanding of how the free market works in the real world. Your vision for how it should work is admirable but naive. If you think government is always the enabler for bad free...
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    What you fail to understand is that the downward...

    What you fail to understand is that the downward spiral is not due to progressive policies but the greed of free marketeers raping the system. Hence the questioning of your so called free market...
  24. Personally I think the GOP should run Cruz. One...

    Personally I think the GOP should run Cruz. One problem though, he is on his wife's health insurance at Goldman Sachs and she is going on unpaid leave without benefits. Will he use "Obamacare"? Now...
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    You must be right, I've got no shame - I actually...

    You must be right, I've got no shame - I actually think you guys might listen to reason at some point.
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    Nice to see you drop in whipster. When do you...

    Nice to see you drop in whipster. When do you think you might add something intelligent to a discussion around here? It would be a first.
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    What is always ignored in these discussions even...

    What is always ignored in these discussions even though it has been brought up repeatedly and completely dismissed by the free marketeers is the simple FACT that most of the first world has some sort...
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    The "free market" approach has been decisively...

    The "free market" approach has been decisively proven to be unworkable.

    The ACA was a terrible attempt to fix the problem.

    So just what is it that Constitutional Conservatives want and more...
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    In a country as great and wealthy as the USA this...

    In a country as great and wealthy as the USA this should not be acceptable. But for some strange reason we see what is possible in other countries and ignore it because "freedumb".
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    Seems simple enough. Let's put some numbers to...

    Seems simple enough. Let's put some numbers to it. $25,000 deductible for a couple. Monthly payment of lets say $200. Average household income of 51k, take home about 40k. If this average couple were...
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    So how does catastrophic insurance solve the...

    So how does catastrophic insurance solve the issues of corruption involving the health insurance companies and the service providers? Please don't say "the free market will prevail" that is not an...
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    So how do us common folk pay for a heart...

    So how do us common folk pay for a heart transplant?
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    Skipped right over the part where the only...

    Skipped right over the part where the only difference between the practices you listed and health care in general is how it is paid for.

    HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES.

    Try to think outside that...
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    Who regulates their practice? Does it hinder...

    Who regulates their practice? Does it hinder their ability to operate a profitable business?
    Do the regulations have the potential to be abused by third parties? How do these practices differ from...
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    This may seem a bit off topic but Uber is a...

    This may seem a bit off topic but Uber is a pretty good example of the free market. On the surface it might seem like a viable option to provide low cost transportation, unfortunately when one digs...
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    If I ever I see you wingers use facts, reason and...

    If I ever I see you wingers use facts, reason and common sense to formulate and argue your positions you might just convert me to the dark side. I don't seem to have much to worry about considering...
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    I forgot to mention they sometimes skip steps. ...

    I forgot to mention they sometimes skip steps.

    Call anyone who asks a question regarding the thesis mentally incompetent.
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    The right wing has the most interesting debating...

    The right wing has the most interesting debating style going that is why they get the attention they do.

    Formulate a totally unworkable thesis based upon ideology.
    Twist the Constitution to suit...
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    The witty banter is entertaining but I see as...

    The witty banter is entertaining but I see as usual you have evaded the question.

    Each of the segments of conservatism differ on HOW to attain these high ideals. I was just wondering which one is...
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    That coming from some one who's stock in trade is...

    That coming from some one who's stock in trade is arrogance makes for real laughs, but I wouldn't expect you to see the irony.
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    Beat down? Musta missed that. Oh you mean where...

    Beat down? Musta missed that. Oh you mean where you cons bobbed and weaved and made fools out of yourselves trying to make excuses for one of your "leaders".
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    I guess that means "none of the above" :pop:

    I guess that means "none of the above" :pop:
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    Is that a Constitutional Conservative,...

    Is that a Constitutional Conservative, NeoConservative, Randian Conservative or some other variety of conservative? Just wondering.
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    Congrats on your kids. If what I post angers...

    Congrats on your kids.

    If what I post angers you so be it, your opinion of me is roughly parallel to what I think of most right wingnuts, it would seem that includes you.
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    So let me guess. You think Teddy Green Eggs and...

    So let me guess. You think Teddy Green Eggs and Ham Cruz is a real American Hero?
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    Just because you are blind to the facts doesn't...

    Just because you are blind to the facts doesn't excuse you from listening to them. Try taking off the ideological blinders you might be surprised at what you see.
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    I see you are a true believer also whipster. Like...

    I see you are a true believer also whipster. Like the man said there is one born every minute.
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    It is obvious that you are are true believer. It...

    It is obvious that you are are true believer. It is also obvious that Teddy is a huckster. Not much more to discuss.
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    He said "We need to repeal every word of Common...

    He said "We need to repeal every word of Common Core". Why did he say that? Shouldn't he have been honest and said something about defunding at a Federal level? The double talk truly is astounding. ...
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    So you can't explain how a US Senator will repeal...

    So you can't explain how a US Senator will repeal Common Core. Just like I thought, You are no different than he is, all talk but no solutions. Why can't you see he was just throwing out red meat for...
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