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  1. Thread: Sedona framework

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    Good day Orick, I cannot speak for all of the...

    Good day Orick,

    I cannot speak for all of the EasyIO controllers, but the few I looked at had a weakly designed RS485 interface. For example they neglected to include support for the RS-485's...
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    Good day Desert Guy, I believe that Triatek...

    Good day Desert Guy,

    I believe that Triatek merged and/or was eventually absorbed into Blue Ridge Technology. In fact BRT (or was it Triatek's hardware?) had a retrofit panel:
    ...
  3. Good day All, Just a follow up to all of...

    Good day All,

    Just a follow up to all of this... The BRT retro panels look like a good fit for my one customer, however, I will need to check into my landed cost to see if my customer is still...
  4. Good day Amigo, Thank you very much for the...

    Good day Amigo,

    Thank you very much for the info!

    Cheers,

    Sam
  5. Good day oldhweller, Thank you! I have never...

    Good day oldhweller,

    Thank you! I have never seen this device before!

    Cheers,

    Sam
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    Good day Desert Guy, You are most welcome! ...

    Good day Desert Guy,

    You are most welcome!

    Given that both cables spec a Zo then I would suspect that they are twisted-pair... which is really necessary in order to deal with common-mode noise...
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    Good day Desert Guy, There has been a few...

    Good day Desert Guy,

    There has been a few threads on here about MS/TP cable... and N2 bus cable as well. Regardless of the protocol they are all use RS-485 (or now EIA-485) electrical signalling...
  8. Good day Kontrol, Thank you so much for the...

    Good day Kontrol,

    Thank you so much for the information! I do remember looking at their products a few years ago and found it a bit dated back then. However given your post and the link I can...
  9. Bacnet/BMS Compatible Controllers for GE RR7 and RR9 relays and compatible switches

    Good day All,

    I was curious if anyone can recommend any BACNet Lighting controllers supporting GE RR7/9 Relays, etc? I ask, as I have a few customers with older GE Controllers (i.e. TLC - Total...
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    Good day Alper, Excellent, thank you! ...

    Good day Alper,

    Excellent, thank you!

    Cheers,

    Sam
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    Good day Alper, Wow, those are pretty nice...

    Good day Alper,

    Wow, those are pretty nice controllers. Are they available here in North America?

    Cheers,

    Sam
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    Good day Alex, Thank you for your response. ...

    Good day Alex,

    Thank you for your response. Sadly, the Pelican site's documentation is limited and there is no mention of the RR7/9 interface. Secondly, I could not find any details on the PM5's...
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    Good day Alex, How does this system work with...

    Good day Alex,

    How does this system work with the GE RR7 Relays exactly and/or the Low Voltage switches, etc? I ask as 'Electrical" wanted to keep the original RR7 relays (which are a...
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    Good day Electrical, In the lighting...

    Good day Electrical,

    In the lighting applications I have been involved in the Relay Controller is programmed for the local switch/Group control and then the Controller is networked to the BMS...
  15. Good day bigguy158, Thank you for your...

    Good day bigguy158,

    Thank you for your compliment!

    As Steve mentioned neither he or I know the actual answer, as we are not part of JCI. In my case I am only guessing based upon my...
  16. Good day Norriski Tech, Indeed, I am/was on...

    Good day Norriski Tech,

    Indeed, I am/was on the Connected Community, but it has been sometime since I was logged in. In the past I did see a few posts about tunneling, etc but no real formal...
  17. Good day Norriski Tech, I believe the issue as...

    Good day Norriski Tech,

    I believe the issue as to why the JCI/Jace does not have tunneling is because JCI does not have full control over the Jace. You see the NAE is JCI's proprietary hardware...
  18. Thread: AX Bacnet Errors

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    Good day Reaper, Indeed, in the majority of...

    Good day Reaper,

    Indeed, in the majority of cases the wiring, etc would not "degrade" over time... and so I would certainly investigate the software side of things as a first step. As I...
  19. Thread: AX Bacnet Errors

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    Good day Reaper, If that is the case and you...

    Good day Reaper,

    If that is the case and you are using the Expansion card... then I suspect that it has to do with the Jace's software. A single device even without the EOL should not cause any...
  20. Thread: AX Bacnet Errors

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    Good day Reaper, Technically there should be...

    Good day Reaper,

    Technically there should be two EOL's... one at the beginning of the bus and one at the last device. Orion is correct that you cannot measure the communication cable's impedance...
  21. Thread: HVACPro Help

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    Good day Cagey57, You are not a bad...

    Good day Cagey57,



    You are not a bad example... This is the best method, as HVACPro is really, really timing sensitive. It is just too bad that JCI does not invest a handful of hours and...
  22. Thread: HVACPro Help

    by s2sam
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    Good day Cagey57, This would depend on the USB...

    Good day Cagey57,

    This would depend on the USB to Serial device. I say this, as our device (S2USB485) has been successfully used with HVACPro Version 8.04 and onwards. As I recall 8.04 was the...
  23. Thread: HVACPro Help

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    Good day smakdown61, Understood. Have you...

    Good day smakdown61,

    Understood. Have you successfully used your toolset on any other ZB device? I ask, as it could be a problem with either your target device or your toolset (the CVTPro's are...
  24. Thread: HVACPro Help

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    Good day smakdown61, You do not need a XP VM...

    Good day smakdown61,

    You do not need a XP VM if you are running Win 7 32-bit... Only 64-bit versions of Windows. ZB is quite timing sensitive and so it is possible that the VM running within...
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    Good day JCIMan, The one I use is a few years...

    Good day JCIMan,

    The one I use is a few years old and sadly is no longer made... The one that I have is the Commercial/Business Grade Linksys (Cisco) 8-port smart switch (10/100 with PoE), part...
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    Good day JCIman, Just a heads up but you can...

    Good day JCIman,

    Just a heads up but you can buy switches that can be configured to have one port set to "promiscuous mode". Within this mode all packets sent to or between other ports are...
  27. Good day Frozenlock, One reason I can tell you...

    Good day Frozenlock,

    One reason I can tell you is (professional) liability. Depending upon the area and local/federal laws simply providing what seemingly is innocuous advice could make you...
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    Good day, Electrically BACNet MS/TP is a...

    Good day,

    Electrically BACNet MS/TP is a EIA-485/RS-485 interface and as such it must adhere to the EIA-485/RS-485's wire length (and data rate) limitations. For data rates less than 100 Kb/s the...
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    Good day DaveCR, You could always sniff the...

    Good day DaveCR,

    You could always sniff the Bus with Wireshark and a RS485 bus interface... and examine what packets are being sent to/from the device in question and the FX60. This may give you...
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    Good day All, If one follows the EIA-485...

    Good day All,

    If one follows the EIA-485 Specification:

    Maximum loading of the Bus is 32 unit-loads. The original RS-485 transceivers had an input impedance of 1 unit-load and so 32 devices was...
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    Good day All, Just to add a few things... ...

    Good day All,

    Just to add a few things...

    1. A Dali Bus Segment can support up to 64 devices with 16 groups

    2. It is a two-wire bus that can be pretty much any type of wire... it does not...
  32. Thread: Open protocols

    by s2sam
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    Good day Dapper, I have done a fair amount of...

    Good day Dapper,

    I have done a fair amount of Modbus integration as well as debugging the low level Modbus communication protocol (I wrote my own Modbus Stack)... and I am at loss to understand...
  33. Thread: BACnet hackers

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    Good day Dave, I am by no means an expert on...

    Good day Dave,

    I am by no means an expert on Wireshark, but I believe that you had to be physically present at the site and/or on the Network to do the actual sniffing. Also depending upon which...
  34. Thread: BACnet hackers

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    Good day Dave, As Frozenlock suggested, you...

    Good day Dave,

    As Frozenlock suggested, you may wish to install some packet sniffing software (i.e. Wireshark, etc) and go through the packets to see what exactly is going on. Remember it can...
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    Good day Andrew, Lantronix makes some...

    Good day Andrew,

    Lantronix makes some excellent products and in fact was the manufacturer of JCI's Ethernet N2 Bus Extender (SECVT) used with the NAE 5500 series. Reviews of the SECVT were mixed...
  36. Thread: BACnet hackers

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    Good day FrozenLock, I think you misunderstood...

    Good day FrozenLock,

    I think you misunderstood and/or I presented my comment about mainstream OSes poorly... I Agree with you... My point was that a number of things would have to be present for...
  37. Thread: BACnet hackers

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    Good day Frozenlock, In response to you...

    Good day Frozenlock,

    In response to you comment... Not necessarily. It totally depends upon the hardware and architecture of the controller and if the malware provider has physical access to the...
  38. Good day Andrew, As discussed in your other...

    Good day Andrew,

    As discussed in your other thread, you are going to have the same timing issues with Wireless as you have been experiencing with Ethernet... If you look at this issue at a high...
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    Good day Andrew, You are most welcome! The...

    Good day Andrew,

    You are most welcome!

    The issues (or charms to some) with Ethernet, etc are well known and creates havoc with protocols that are sensitive to timing. Remember that the N2 bus...
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    Good day Andrew, Thank you for your...

    Good day Andrew,

    Thank you for your explanation! In fact that is why you are having the issues you are. Using off the shelf Ethernet to RS485 converters with the N2 bus will simply not work...
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    Good day again Andrew, Just a comment about...

    Good day again Andrew,

    Just a comment about noise... If proper cable is used electrical noise is a non issue simply because RS485 is a differential signaling protocol... in other words the...
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    Good day Andrew, You are most welcome! Can...

    Good day Andrew,

    You are most welcome!

    Can you explain which MOXA device you are using and how it is integrated into the system? I am unclear how you are integrating this in your network.
    ...
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    Good day Andrew, There are a number of things...

    Good day Andrew,

    There are a number of things that can cause the issues you are describing:

    a. Less than optimum Cable Used
    JCI provided very little guidance on what cable should be used and...
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    Good day Vaultein, Indeed, the N2 bus is very...

    Good day Vaultein,

    Indeed, the N2 bus is very forgiving and you can use pretty much any wire and have it mostly/sort of work. The saving grace of N2 is the relatively slow communication rate of...
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    Good day Pascone, You are most welcome! As...

    Good day Pascone,

    You are most welcome!

    As for ZB... I have not spent a lot of time on this, as there has been some discussions with JCI and so I was awaiting some direction/info from them...
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    Good day Pascone, Do a search on here about...

    Good day Pascone,

    Do a search on here about RS-485 or a number of my past posts, as this has been discussed a lot of post. That being said, the N2+ and N2- is all that is needed to decode the...
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    Good day JCIman, NCM's are/were very lenient...

    Good day JCIman,

    NCM's are/were very lenient with regards to timing delays (latencies) from N2 devices... Many older N2 devices (both JCI and third party) violated the maximum N2 response time...
  48. Good day BacMan, No I am not asking for any...

    Good day BacMan,

    No I am not asking for any type of hard data... simply asking you why you think a shield it is necessary. In the application you presented, why do you think the shield helped? ...
  49. Good day again BacMan, Indeed, using the...

    Good day again BacMan,

    Indeed, using the reference and terminators are excellent and in most cases this is what should be done. As for the shield... can you explain what is your reason for doing...
  50. Good day BacMan, Ethernet is being pushed more...

    Good day BacMan,

    Ethernet is being pushed more and more in industrial Environments and so exposure to all that you mention is the same... except, of course, that multiple devices are not hung off...
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