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    +++ On that one, somebody had to do something to...

    +++ On that one, somebody had to do something to one and make it work.


    In the places that I assist with, we rebuild Magic Pack, NCP, PATCO, Magic Chef...... ETC all the time. For Apartments...
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    21 pounds?!?!?! WOW!!!! Good thing for the HP...

    21 pounds?!?!?! WOW!!!! Good thing for the HP trip off or else goodbye system.
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    Ahhhhh..... Yes, the Photoelectric Duct smoke...

    Ahhhhh..... Yes, the Photoelectric Duct smoke detector. Great unit, but it does require maintenance from time to time. The tripping is caused by dirt/dust inside the unit, but it being 13 years...
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    HC's can be used safely with proper precautions...

    HC's can be used safely with proper precautions taken. There are already many products that come with HC's, But all are equipped with warning labels and most small appliances (referigrators,...
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    So.......If i went to a wholesaler what...

    So.......If i went to a wholesaler what certification would I need to show to buy a 30 pound tank of R134a?

    And online, or at anywhere else, do I need to license to purchase any Hydrocarbon...
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    Oh Really? And I'm the ignorant one? ...

    Oh Really?



    And I'm the ignorant one? :rolleyes:

    You can only hope and pray that you will never need anyone of us at anytime.....it is quite obvious that you have no idea of what those...
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    Not a bad idea to cover your a$$ in case there is...

    Not a bad idea to cover your a$$ in case there is a HC in a system.





    Sweet!!!!! Just make sure that you are professional or else you don't count!! :pileon:

    Lets crack out the...
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    R600a is flammable, and what they are concerned...

    R600a is flammable, and what they are concerned with is the amount of gas.....along with WHERE THE LEAK WOULD HAPPEN, and how much how fast. So if a pinhole leak developed in a micro-channel...
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    Nobody is sitting here advocating "The hell with...

    Nobody is sitting here advocating "The hell with the laws" and to go and charge up everyones system with whatever. If you want to do an experiment, that is your choice, just don't do it to a...
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    WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN? DON'T...

    WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN? DON'T EVEN GO THERE. PA has over 85% of firefighters that are VOLUNTEER!!!! THE NEXT TIME ONE OF YOUR LOVED ONES OR YOURSELF HAS A HOUSE FIRE, OR GETS INTO...
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    Oh boy...Here we go again. First off,...

    Oh boy...Here we go again. First off, Hydrocarbons are not unsafe....... UNLESS THEY ARE NOT DEALT WITH PROPERLY.......THEN YOU HAVE AN ISSUE. As a lot of you know, I do the HVAC trade part time,...
  12. Yery True. And for over penetration, the .357...

    Yery True. And for over penetration, the .357 sig out of a Glock 31 can do just that. It takes some getting used too, and once you get then hang of it, you are set.

    As for the Glock Comment, I...
  13. SHOT PLACEMENT is what takes down your subject!!!...

    SHOT PLACEMENT is what takes down your subject!!!

    But I trust my Glock 31 (.357sig) to take care of business.

    If I am in a bad mood.... My Colt Delta Elite ver 3 (10mm) will put a .45acp...
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    Thank you, that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy...

    Thank you, that makes me feel all warm and fuzzy all over.

    I have been known to mow the lawn with the 44mag on my hip, scope and all........The neighbors love that one.......even got a facebook...
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    For hunting, or for back up weapons for hunting I...

    For hunting, or for back up weapons for hunting I have a Colt Python (357 Mag) with a 6 inch barrel. I also have a Colt Anaconda (44 mag) with the 8 inch barrel. I have a scope on this one. The 44...
  16. I think I know where you are going with this one....

    I think I know where you are going with this one. With the gas systems, you will have to keep an eye on o-rings, seals and such. Inertia systems use the natural force the the round using some type...
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    Really? Wow, the top two that I can think of are...

    Really? Wow, the top two that I can think of are the Federal Air Marshalls and the US Secret Service.

    There is a bunch more.

    Take a look:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.357_SIG
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    I was gonna say, I didn't think you meant the...

    I was gonna say, I didn't think you meant the famous FBI shoot-out, as that is where we got 10mm from.....LOL!!!!!

    The .357 Sig round did not come out until the 1990's and has proven itself quite...
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    Now that sounds fun in the living room!!!!!

    Now that sounds fun in the living room!!!!!
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    I have a .40 S&W as well (Sig P226) and I...

    I have a .40 S&W as well (Sig P226) and I honestly like the .357sig round better. Considering the secret service and federal air marshalls use it, as well as MANY police departments, the .357 sig is...
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    Glock 31. Of course I have the striker...

    Glock 31. Of course I have the striker protector, new guide rod and recoil spring....makes it much more manageable since it's .357 sig.

    No feed issues like the .40S&W, and it just works.

    But...
  22. Thread: Who's on call

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    I'm not on call for the HVAC stuff, but if you...

    I'm not on call for the HVAC stuff, but if you check my profile pic, I am on call for something else.

    From your Friendly Fire Department........Fireworks can be fun, if used...
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    Oh Trust me........We have done that on several...

    Oh Trust me........We have done that on several occasions. On the older chassis, they are stripped down, repainted with rust proofing primer, and then new compressors, either reman or new coils, and...
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    Now that I agree with It's was funny when I...

    Now that I agree with

    It's was funny when I got to "Have Fun" with the nu calgon rep. He was going on and on about all the benefits, and I just jumped in and stated that we used it to prevent...
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    Time for some A/C Renew!!!!! LOL!!!!! I had...

    Time for some A/C Renew!!!!! LOL!!!!! I had too!
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    And just for the record, AHRI are not "God" and...

    And just for the record, AHRI are not "God" and other issues can come up with ANY situation:
    ...
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    Trust me, it's no upsell, it is DEFINITELY a hope...

    Trust me, it's no upsell, it is DEFINITELY a hope to avoid callbacks. In the Magic Pack PATC units, if you ever worked on them you know that they can be a pain in the a$$ to service. It just is a...
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    No, I totally agree that using A/C renew from the...

    No, I totally agree that using A/C renew from the factory to get better SEER ratings would be a crock.

    And like I stated before, EACH SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT!!!

    I have seen older R22 units have...
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    That is a very good point. Or you try the...

    That is a very good point.

    Or you try the product on your units and find out that is does work........or does not.

    The one claim that I do not agree with is that just put in in run it for...
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    A few things I noticed is in the R22 systems, the...

    A few things I noticed is in the R22 systems, the cans worked great!! In the R410a systems, we used their injector tool, as we are only using 2 ounces for Magic Packs VS 4 for regular. The liquid...
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    Zerol Ice became A/C Renew, a product of nu...

    Zerol Ice became A/C Renew, a product of nu calgon. One of the changes was due to the pressurized cans originally had R22 as a carrier gas for the can. A simple connection of the suction port with...
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    Yea.....That could be a problem. Or when you do...

    Yea.....That could be a problem. Or when you do your A/C work dealing with 90% Magic Pak PATC type units, from Condos, Apts, student housing, 55+ communities...... Watching the look of the...
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    Just saw your Update post, Dual means having a...

    Just saw your Update post, Dual means having a front and rear factory system, not just cooling the front and back. Those Temps Look Great, something could have worked it's way loose and is now in...
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    For my main Job, I am a network engineer, and we...

    For my main Job, I am a network engineer, and we have several 3500 GMC Savana 3500 EXT 6.6 Diesels, in a cargo version. They are equipped with FACTORY REAR A/C as we don't want the computer stuff...
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    You may also want to take a look here: ...

    You may also want to take a look here:

    http://www.nucalgon.com/products/oils/a-c-re-new

    Now a lot of people thought of this as another "Snake Oil" product, HOWEVER, with the rash of those bad...
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    The name, it's basically the same product just...

    The name, it's basically the same product just re-named. But keep in mind, the older pressurized cans of Zerol Ice contained R22 as a carrier gas to get the product into the system. The newer...
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    The R410a one was larger and that unit still had...

    The R410a one was larger and that unit still had power and was running when the roof came down in the HVAC closet, and a few minutes later... WOOSH!!!!!!

    After the propane tank Blew up the HVAC...
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    That is correct, it was the oil that was burning,...

    That is correct, it was the oil that was burning, not the R22 or R410a but it was pressurized and atomoized, that is what did it.

    It was still a sight to see, a 5 foot flame coming out for 20-30...
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    The insurance thing is what has me..... That...

    The insurance thing is what has me..... That would be a huge breaking point.

    Never really thought about that.

    Points taken.

    And yea, don't think when we were close to some of the...
  40. Thinking about it, the insurance thing is what...

    Thinking about it, the insurance thing is what has me...... Would they pay?

    That is a reason alone to not do it.

    Point Taken.
  41. It was a "U" shaped building and the Fire was...

    It was a "U" shaped building and the Fire was jumping, Got a first hand look at what R22 or R410a will do when enough heat gets to them and it reaches that point..... FLASH POINT......As soon as...
  42. All the units have been labeled, with no personal...

    All the units have been labeled, with no personal ID info on the tag. Just a Generic Sticker Stating the unit was converted to a HC gas and to observe all safety measures and service/handling...
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    When all hell breaks loose

    Some of you know that I am also a Volunteer Fireman, well Friday night all hell broke loose:
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  44. Considering what just happened, and the response...

    Considering what just happened, and the response that we ran, I am telling him that as of next week, we are pulling out ALL of the HC's and recharging it with R22.

    I will post in the General...
  45. Ok, have thought this over, from this point...

    Ok, have thought this over, from this point forward, we are putting a hold on all HC charges. All the units will be inspected and tags will be in place.

    We will inform the apartment management...
  46. http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/download/MailFOV_Env...

    http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/download/MailFOV_EnviroSafe_06112013.pdf

    Again thanks for everyones input, I found the Notice of Enforcement and actions to be taken.

    Notice it only covers...
  47. HOW DID WE ALL MISS THIS: ...

    HOW DID WE ALL MISS THIS:


    http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1037524867/Explosion-at-Enviro-Safe-in-Pekin-reportedly-injures-4-people#thecomments

    This changes everything. I didn't blow up, but they...
  48. Wow, I did not know about the enforcement...

    Wow, I did not know about the enforcement actions. That is good to know.

    Yes, all of the units are labeled, and with this new enforcement actions, I think I will step away for a while and lets...
  49. Actually HC's can be used for MO99, 407C, and 2nd...

    Actually HC's can be used for MO99, 407C, and 2nd Gen replacements. Which is what was happening. They went with NU-22, and were not happy with the performance, so they began to install the HC's. ...
  50. Cooling Chassis Replacements.... And I didn't blow up!!!!

    As some of you know, in working part time with a family memeber at some apartment complexes, I have used ES22a and ES502a and some air enhancer additive with excellent results.

    We have a few new...
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