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    Sticky: Poll: So, basically, all Nordyne products. Did you deal...

    So, basically, all Nordyne products. Did you deal with US Supply when they were a Gibson distributor?
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    Well, this is about as racist as a post can get....

    Well, this is about as racist as a post can get. Being a White guy from the Baltimore/DC area, I have had my share of being preyed on by groups of Blacks. I have also had a few one on one...
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    What you are calling facts are not facts at all....

    What you are calling facts are not facts at all. You simply choose to believe the story told by the only known liar who has a background of causing violence, breaking the law and lying to authorities...
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    Everything from anyone about what happened in the...

    Everything from anyone about what happened in the less than two minutes between Martin's phone going dead and Zimmerman's shooting him is speculation. If you really looked at the timeline and the map...
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    Well, don't go shortening my name. Have you ever...

    Well, don't go shortening my name. Have you ever seen anyone refer to me as Rob? RoBo is about as shortened as I will recognize. Rob is short for Robert, and I have never been a Robert.
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    Who the hell is Rob?

    Who the hell is Rob?
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    And again, there is no proof that what you are...

    And again, there is no proof that what you are claiming ever happened. Only Zimmerman claims that this is what happened, and Zimmerman is a documente liar who has been documented lying to police the...
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    I think I'm going to follow Jeff's exiting from...

    I think I'm going to follow Jeff's exiting from this thread as well.

    I will leave y'all with something I have stated many times over; I would much rather have to deal with someone like the young...
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    Thank you for the thread. Sorry it was not...

    Thank you for the thread. Sorry it was not understood by some to be what it was intended.
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    Since Martin cannot defend himself, I have to say...

    Since Martin cannot defend himself, I have to say that those who are claiming that Martin, a 17 year old kid still in school, was a dirtbag, is about the most incredibly calloused and ignorant thing...
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    And Martin had every right to defend himself from...

    And Martin had every right to defend himself from someone who had stalked him and then approached him, possibly with a gun in hand.
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    The only claim that Martin first assaulted...

    The only claim that Martin first assaulted Zimmerman is Zimmerman's testimony, and Zimmerman is a confirmed liar. We don't know if Zimmerman had his gun out and Martin just panicked because some...
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    Ummm, Zimmerman followed Martin. Martin turned...

    Ummm, Zimmerman followed Martin. Martin turned away from Zimmerman while Zimmerman was in his vehicle and Martin deliberately walked to an area where Zimmerman could not follow in his vehicle to get...
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    I'm not saying that I believe 100% that Zimmerman...

    I'm not saying that I believe 100% that Zimmerman was out to kill anyone, just that he was out to use his new gun to show his newly bolstered authority to someone and it got out of control. However,...
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    Exactly. And who started the whole rearguing the...

    Exactly. And who started the whole rearguing the results?
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    You are the only one who made a big deal out of...

    You are the only one who made a big deal out of this thread. All Jeff did was comment that I was right about Zimmerman. You are the only one who had to come to Zimmerman's defense and make this...
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    Drugged out punk? Really?! And you don't realize...

    Drugged out punk? Really?! And you don't realize how prejudiced you are?

    How about the fact that I would never have provoked some kid talking on the phone into feeling he had to defend himself...
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    LOL! Now that you translated, I agree....

    LOL! Now that you translated, I agree. Personally, I'd have confronted Zimmerman aggressively while he was still in his vehicle. To Martin, Zimmerman must have really seemed like some sort of weirdo...
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    It was useless because it was incoherent...

    It was useless because it was incoherent babbling. I know the individual words, but as you put them together, they just make no sense.

    Since I get called a liberal at least 3 times a day and a...
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    I have no idea why you would think I am pissed...

    I have no idea why you would think I am pissed off or even a little bit emotional about your posts. I can assure you I am not. I thought it was funny that you are an acclaimed conservative who is...
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    All I can think to say about some of the other...

    All I can think to say about some of the other posts here are;

    Being illiterate does not make someone a liar, but "illierate" is a mis-spelling of that accusation.

    Martin's friend on the phone...
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    This is the most useless, unintelligible post I...

    This is the most useless, unintelligible post I have read. What is it supposed to mean? Really! You sound like a babbling leftist.
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    I was just being polite. Sorry, didn't know you...

    I was just being polite. Sorry, didn't know you were just being an ass....as in donkey, you know;
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    Some of my best friends and favorite people are...

    Some of my best friends and favorite people are Democrats. So what? I don't have to agree with someone's politics to admire them as good people.
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    Yes indeed. They believe what they want to...

    Yes indeed. They believe what they want to believe and don't want to be disputed by inconvenient little things like facts.
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    Thank you for such a rational and honest post. I...

    Thank you for such a rational and honest post. I agree with everything on this post other than the insinuation that we shouldn't argue. It would be really boring, not to mention pretty sick, if...
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    I'd rather have Martin as my son than be the...

    I'd rather have Martin as my son than be the obvious offspring of David Duke and Senator Robert Byrd. At least Travon's hoodie wasn't white and pointy.
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    And you continue to spew out misinformation....

    And you continue to spew out misinformation. There is not one bit of evidence, nor any logical way that Martin could have doubled back to confront Zimmerman. Zimmerman lied to the police about his...
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    I am not a sales type at all. Even when I was in...

    I am not a sales type at all. Even when I was in sales, I was not a sales type. I am a factual data analyst type who on a daily basis determines why things happen based on logical facts. You...
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    My apologies if this has already been posted, but...

    My apologies if this has already been posted, but I just came across the perfect answer to this thread's queery;

    "Why do you feel the need to own a gun?"

    No explaination is necessary. It is...
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    Brian8383, it is obvious that you have no desire...

    Brian8383, it is obvious that you have no desire for truth, rather wanting to only justify what you think you believe. I will leave that as being your problem. This thread is simply a courteous...
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    The only person who really knows what happened in...

    The only person who really knows what happened in the last two minutes of Martin's life is unfortunately the man who killed him. According to the girl that Martin was talkint to on the phone,...
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    No he was not! Where do you get your information...

    No he was not! Where do you get your information from? Martin was standing under an overhang in front of the complexes community center when Zimmerman honed in on him. After seeing Zimmerman stalking...
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    How are the actions between Brown and Martin in...

    How are the actions between Brown and Martin in any way similar other than both of them were Black males? Hell, you are making BGC's case for him.

    Brown just commited a crime. Martin just legally...
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    There is absolutely no indication that killing...

    There is absolutely no indication that killing was about race. There is also absolutely no indication that Martin should have been stalked by Zimmerman. Based on Zimmerman's general attitude, he just...
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    I agree that the case was decided properly on the...

    I agree that the case was decided properly on the way the trial was conducted. But let's face it, our legal system is much more a contest between which side has the better attorney's than it is about...
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    LOL! Does it help being more catchy if you...

    LOL! Does it help being more catchy if you pronounce it the way I intended it to be pronounced; 'why' 'panic'?
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    This has all been thoroughly hashed over and over...

    This has all been thoroughly hashed over and over and over....

    What supporters of Zimmerman constantly avoid is the fact that Zimmerman had a progressively growing record of acting out violently...
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    GA, for someone who himself comes off so high and...

    GA, for someone who himself comes off so high and mighty and righteous, you sure do think you have some sort of right to judge others. If the death of a young man that could have been prevented...
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    Zimmerman has been ordered to relinguish all...

    Zimmerman has been ordered to relinguish all firearms. This has happened in other incidences where Zimmerman was accused of acting out violently, but he was given his guns back soon afterward.

    If...
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    GA, Zimmerman's a judicial system pariah. With...

    GA, Zimmerman's a judicial system pariah. With the influence from his daddy the judge, Zimmerman has been getting away with murder (bad pun intended). The guy has been escalating his violence toward...
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    Apology accepted, Jeff. I have had several people...

    Apology accepted, Jeff. I have had several people who felt I was wrong about Zimmerman show similar sentiments even before this latest episode.

    At least my prediction that Zimmerman would kill...
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    As is apparent in this eloquent and oh so...

    As is apparent in this eloquent and oh so Suessian writing, there are a variety of ways to shoot and use naked mole rats. I will say though, naked mole rats with ham is not exactly kosher.
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    I am so glad you asked these questions to stop...

    I am so glad you asked these questions to stop the silliness that has been going on on this thread.

    It is best to shoot naked mole rats in pairs for several reasons that apply to some of your...
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    Do you now deny that Long Beach has a pollution...

    Do you now deny that Long Beach has a pollution problem?

    "5. Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside Year-round particle pollution rank: 5th worst
    Unhealthy ozone pollution rank: 1st worst
    Residents...
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    Brian's story about a 20 year old "boy" being...

    Brian's story about a 20 year old "boy" being captured so effectively by police in Long Beach reminds me of another city where that sort of amazingly fast police action would have taken place;...
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    It's kind of difficult for a guy to conceal a...

    It's kind of difficult for a guy to conceal a weapon when he's wearing skin tight pants with the butt cheek sections cut out and a boy beater tank top tied at the midriff. Also, Long Beach is the...
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    Does Brian ever get anything correct? Isn't OJ in...

    Does Brian ever get anything correct? Isn't OJ in jail for breaking and entering and stealing property that "used" to belong to him but was sold to pay his legal fees?

    Let's get back to the mole...
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    I have several times in life helped others in...

    I have several times in life helped others in need. It is unfortunate that you think taking care of yourself and helping those in need requires heroics rather than just common sense and decency. And...
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    Brian pray? To who? A police agency that the...

    Brian pray? To who? A police agency that the likes of Brian so deplore? Certainly not to a benevolent Creator.
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