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    Typical right wing fear mongering. If these guys...

    Typical right wing fear mongering. If these guys weren't running scared all the time I don't know what they would talk about. Until they can come up with something halfway...
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    http://familiesusa.org/product/50-state-look-medic...

    http://familiesusa.org/product/50-state-look-medicaid-expansion

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/share/medicaid-map

    Need more references? You guys really need to keep up on the news. (Outside of the...
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    Part of the ACA was for states to increase the...

    Part of the ACA was for states to increase the caps for Medicaid, after that income level subsidies kicked in up to a certain income level. This would theoretically cover everyone, conservative...
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    I think you need to do more research. Don't...

    I think you need to do more research.

    Don't get me wrong, cutting all benefits is a perfectly valid approach to dealing with poverty(not one I agree with, but valid nonetheless), but if the...
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    Funding for hospitals to cover the indigent has...

    Funding for hospitals to cover the indigent has been drastically cut so they may not have the ability to cover his bill. With that said, many life saving treatments are not available in the ER. So...
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    Truth be known I think the ACA did not go far...

    Truth be known I think the ACA did not go far enough. But that aside since no one can extrapolate out what options this man has, I will put forward two.

    1. Bankruptcy

    2. Death

    Any Questions?...
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    The states were supposed to increase the caps for...

    The states were supposed to increase the caps for Medicaid but the more conservative leaning state governments refused. This was one of the many lawsuits conservatives brought against the ACA. They...
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    1. There must be an awful lot of leftist in this...

    1. There must be an awful lot of leftist in this country because all the bad stuff that happens is because of them - I think we need to ask them to leave or maybe they just need "educated"

    2. ...
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    While I am not an expert I think no one is...

    While I am not an expert I think no one is guaranteed medical treatment in a facility outside of a hospital emergency room - before or after the ACA. Many life saving treatments are done on a non...
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    The antics coming out of the new conservative...

    The antics coming out of the new conservative movement has put fear in the heart of most Americans and rightly so. Fortunately their numbers are decreasing. Most of these wackadoodles are veering...
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    I find it interesting that a few gays protesting...

    I find it interesting that a few gays protesting represent all progressive/liberal folk but a few conservative voices are just that - a few voices. Interesting dichotomy.
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    So you are saying a Doctor could not insist on...

    So you are saying a Doctor could not insist on being paid up front for the procedure if you could not prove financial ability?
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    The video made the rounds when the event...

    The video made the rounds when the event happened, I can't help it if you have trust issues. (I would like to correct that it was not Rand but it was Ron Paul.)

    Let's make this a "teaching...
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    One example is a Tea Party interview with CNN...

    One example is a Tea Party interview with CNN where the audience of predominately new conservatives said yeah and cheered when the host said about an individual without health insurance:

    “But...
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    More pearls of wisdom from the peanut gallery....

    More pearls of wisdom from the peanut gallery. Just another guy wanting cheap soda! Funny how that works.

    :grin2:
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    Was that supposed to be a joke? Excuse me, but...

    Was that supposed to be a joke? Excuse me, but like I have said before there just isn't much funny right wing humor. That may be because you guys say so many wacky things it is hard to shock or...
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    Really? Talk about the delusion of wanting to...

    Really? Talk about the delusion of wanting to live in a "better time". The problem is when you folks seriously think you can have the internet, cell phones, etc but roll back the clock on the rest.
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    This is why there is no reasonable discussion...

    This is why there is no reasonable discussion regarding taxes - bad metaphors meant to inflame rather than help. But Obama is being divisive, just ask any pub.
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    Yes, fighting fire with fire usually just burns...

    Yes, fighting fire with fire usually just burns the whole town down. That I am afraid, is what is happening to this great nation. Who knows how it will all be resolved.
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    Agreed Scrog, the far left seems to have no idea...

    Agreed Scrog, the far left seems to have no idea how to actually pay for their version of utopia and I along with others see this as foolish. But that doesn't stop the cons here from painting anyone...
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    This thread is exploring the reaches of absurdity...

    This thread is exploring the reaches of absurdity expressed by the far right and the far left. Of course you can point out the exceptions when most people fall somewhere in between and don't fit the...
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    His theory about the causes of bubbles in the...

    His theory about the causes of bubbles in the financial system explain alot, for instance the most recent downturn can be explained using his assertion that creation of debt to finance speculation...
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    Fine. I will go tell Fox News and Breitbart so...

    Fine. I will go tell Fox News and Breitbart so they can rile up you guys to do something about that. :gah:

    Reality is not a strong suit of the new conservative is it?
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    Other outlandish claims were made by the pro...

    Other outlandish claims were made by the pro Republican side but I noticed you only picked on the pro Democratic claim. Don't you see that as somewhat hypocritical?

    I thought it was rather...
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    Profitable corporations are supposed to pay a 35...

    Profitable corporations are supposed to pay a 35 percent federal income tax rate on their U.S. profits. But many corporations pay far less, or nothing at all, because of the many tax loopholes and...
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    I voted Republican because I understand...

    I voted Republican because I understand capitalism.

    Demand doesn’t increase jobs…ensuring corporations pay no taxes and cutting healthcare and education does.
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    I voted Republican because I believe in laying...

    I voted Republican because I believe in laying off workers to boost profits; then I get to complain about lazy unemployed people.
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    I vote Republican because I believe everyone has...

    I vote Republican because I believe everyone has the right to spill as much oil as they want.
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    Glad you liked it. Sums it up pretty good Huh?

    Glad you liked it. Sums it up pretty good Huh?
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    The accelerated decline began with policies that...

    The accelerated decline began with policies that favored the the upper classes because of the misguided notion that they would shower the masses with jobs and wealth if we only gave them more money. ...
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    https://progressivenetwork.files.wordpress.com/201...

    https://progressivenetwork.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/tea-party-what-i-do.jpg
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    You may doubt anything you choose, and draw...

    You may doubt anything you choose, and draw conclusions from data you have hand picked but yes that makes it coincidence not fact.

    I think we can both agree that the politically informed person...
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    Yeah it is a good question, just what is normal?...

    Yeah it is a good question, just what is normal? It's kinda like painting with a broad brush it just covers it all. The propaganda coming from both sides tends to do that but since it is so generic...
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    I had pretty much a normal childhood, I don't...

    I had pretty much a normal childhood, I don't think that is relevant to the discussion though. Your experience involving con vs lib upbringing differs from mine. The image you are portraying seems to...
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    I'm a Republican because my parents never told me...

    I'm a Republican because my parents never told me I was an idiot. The world revolved around me and I was always right. Therefore I will always be greedy and uncaring about others since that is my...
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    I vote republican because I have mommy issues. My...

    I vote republican because I have mommy issues. My mommy represented being kind and decent. She taught me to be giving and caring and it never got me anywhere so I am resentful and see the democratic...
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    Some would think the reverse. The problem...

    Some would think the reverse.



    The problem with the Dem list is that it is full of stereotypes so this may be seen as cover for the con point of view (a dodge so to speak). Some will learn and...
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    I vote Republican because: 1. I voted...

    I vote Republican because:

    1. I voted Republican because I believe that oil companies can never make enough profits, even when the rest of the economy is taking hits left and right.
    2. I voted...
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    I would bet good money they do to you and MO guy....

    I would bet good money they do to you and MO guy. :grin2::grin2::grin2:
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    My neighbors would be surprised to hear that! You...

    My neighbors would be surprised to hear that! You must have me confused with someone else, doesn't matter much to me though what my neighbors do behind closed doors. It's just that I am surrounded by...
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    Thanks Glen. Could you remind me what was so...

    Thanks Glen.

    Could you remind me what was so great about Ronnie Rayguns? I can't seem to remember - other than he did do quite the acting job. And while you are at it how about explaining what...
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    Let me make it easy for you, I have only pulled...

    Let me make it easy for you, I have only pulled the R lever twice in my life. Once for Anderson in the primary he lost to Ronzo and once for my neighbor in a local election. Does that make me a...
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    You have proven my point. Anyone to the left of...

    You have proven my point. Anyone to the left of what you consider "right" is a liberal. Personally I am my own person and don't associate my views with any particular side. But with your point of...
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    Your obsession with liberals is almost as bad as...

    Your obsession with liberals is almost as bad as Brian's obsession with progressives. You may want to get that checked.
  45. So who would be a good conservative presidential...

    So who would be a good conservative presidential candidate that will address the issues you support? Since he is neither R or D the obvious question would be just how is this conservative going to...
  46. So much for that clean up of Wall Street. Little...

    So much for that clean up of Wall Street. Little has changed since the financial crisis that threw the world into the Great Recession.

    A quarter of bankers would still do an illegal trade to...
  47. Actually I am waiting until the Republican clown...

    Actually I am waiting until the Republican clown car fills up (what is it twenty possibles) before deciding.

    Interesting take on voting rights though, it explains alot.
  48. I would be able to vote, even under the founders...

    I would be able to vote, even under the founders rules. But can you explain why you feel that all citizens shouldn't have that right?
  49. So that is what happened to you. Was the stipend...

    So that is what happened to you. Was the stipend worth it?
  50. You would lose that bet. Where do you guys get...

    You would lose that bet. Where do you guys get your information anyway - Newsmax?
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