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Thank you for removing the fake "testimonial" post.

Meanwhile the National Advertising Division (NAD) of the BBB has recommended that Molekule discontinue it's pollution elimination claims and any...

This is not a post. It is an advertisement - and a bad one at that.

Genesis
Your comments are not surprising. We have seen this drill before - attractive design, questionable technology, insufficient testing results, and overblown claims. You are much more...

I don't think there would be a problem holding the weight of your unit. That is what the base was designed to do.

Remember - the thicker the pleated filter - the better. By reducing the...

randyf

I am glad my posts were of some help to you. Keep up the good work!

I would not recommend an electronic filter. There are plenty of reasons for this that I will not go into here. Let's just say you are better off with a 4" pleated filter.

I just searched for a...

I am afraid your contractor did not give you accurate information. Unfortunately, this mistake is pretty common. While it is true that the 4" filter will last longer, the major benefit is that it...

Randyf

I have read through this thread and commend you for your knowledge and clear explanations. I would be hard pressed to point to a single comment that you have made that I do not agree with....

Go with the 4" pleated filter option. Because it has more media surface area, it actually has less resistance and there is less pressure drop. I have no idea what they are talking about when they...

Wow! 500 parts per billion is huge. As you say, the acceptable limit indoors in 50ppb.

I will give you another experiment. Place a small bowl of lemon or pine scented cleaner in the room and do...

Randy

Last night I did some more thinking on why the Molekule device did not register any improvement in the indoor air quality. I believe the answer is air flow, or in this case, lack thereof.
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Randy
Good summary. Well researched and clearly written.

Nicely done!!

Try this:

http://conference2018.resnet.us/data/energymeetings/presentations/RESNET2018_LBL_LowCostMonitors_walker.pdf

Dr. Iain Walker of Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory has done a very good analysis of low cost IAQ monitors. His findings are summarized in this Powerpoint presentation:
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You can go to higher efficiency by using deeper filters. The increased surface area of a 4" or 5" filter substantially reduces resistance.

This article explains the concept in more detail and...

The 80cfm airflow rate of the Molekule is a major problem. Here's why:

When an air cleaner is in use indoor particles levels (and VOC's) are a function of the following:
outdoor to indoor...

Randy

Good discussion. Your research is well done and impressive.

My point about Dr. Godswami is that he made the point to emphasize his credentials and that he is an "expert." He was...

Randy

I am not sure what your point is. Sure the PECO technology is questionable - particularly when it comes to the unintended byproducts of the chemical reactions. I have never been convinced...

To confirm this statement, Dr. Goswami clearly does not know very much about filters. He may be a highly regarded scientist in some field - but not filtration. Anyone with even a rudimentary...

I am not sure where you are getting your information that the Carrier Infinity uses the same technology that hospitals use. Hospitals required to use certain levels of filtration. This article will...

We tested the Carrier Infinity several years ago. It did not emit a large amount of ozone.

However, replacement filters are expensive. At the end of the day this product does not perform better...

A good rule of thumb on 12" box filters is that you change them at twice the initial pressure drop. A filter like this generally has a pressure drop of 0.45"-0.55" wg at 2000 cfm. Pressure drop...

AK
It sounds like the "indoor allergens" you are most concerned with are dust mites and mold. The other allergens on your list are outdoor allergens.

Reducing humidity below 50% is an excellent...

Austin Air has been in business for about 20 years. They make high quality HEPA air purifiers that are both effective and reliable. I have had one running in my bedroom since 1997. It makes a big...

There seems to be somewhat of a misunderstanding on the resistance of thicker pleated filters versus thinner pleated filters. Given the same media (fabric) a thicker pleated filter will always have...

Sorry for the delay in responding. I will try to answer your question, but it has been a few years since I did some of these tests. The Lennox HC16 is a very efficient filter. The best part is...

This article sums up my views on the GPS product.

Alchemy, Indoor Air and the Black Box

By Jim Rosenthal, 3/17/2006

Be wary of excessive marketing claims for products to take care of...

rh
You need to stay away from any filter that is going to restrict your airflow. With a 14X18X1 filter opening my bet is that you have marginal or insufficient return air in your system the way...

What is this?

A cheap advertisement for a bad product.

Sickening!

DR
For the average consumer the IQ Air is an excellent product with very high efficiency and good air flow.

Your comparison of the IQ Air to the Biological Controls M800 is like someone...

A
We have also discussed the pros and cons of the Bi-polar ionization on this site. This technology creates OH (hydroxyl radicals) in the occupied space and is potentially more damaging than the...

This is an excellent article on real science vs. fake science and how to tell the difference when it comes to products. the emphasis is on health products but the basic points apply to many of the...

Using three Filtrete filters is a waste of your money. Visible particles are over 10 microns in size. Any pleated filter will remove close to 100% of the particles of this size that reach the...

The only time your vacuum would be a dust creator is when you are vacuuming or for about 30 minutes thereafter.

My guess is that the blown in insulation and the protrustions from ceiling fans...

In my experience the most common causes for excessive dust are: 1. cellulose insulation and 2. protrusions in the ceiling for recessed lights, etc.. Do you have either?

SA66
I am not sure I understand your question. But here is some information that might be helpful.

In the ASHRAE 52.2 Standard there are 7 acceptable flow rates at which tests can be run. They...

I agree with pm. After reading these so called "scientific reports" I see nothing that indicates that this technology is safe or effective for indoor environments. Once again, what we see are...

AMG
Both the REME and the Guardian Air use the same photohydroionization (PHI) technology. Do you really think the outcome would be different? The small reduction in particles from ionization is...

306341

The "testing data" on the website is from laboratory tests done in chambers the size of a microwave oven. You could achieve the same results by turning on the microwave. They do not apply to indoor...

AMG
OK, so we are supposed to believe that the Air Knight (installed on the supply side) is going to charge particles in a house, make them stick together and be easier to pick up by the air filter...

JJ
I really don't know how the Nordic Pure filters compare with others without seeing their test results. I have not tested these filters myself. As far as the comparison with 3M filters it would...

These filters are fairly restrictive to airflow. Obviously, they are not ok for your system.

I would recommend going with a standard pleated filter and chalk this up to experience. But you have...

Well said, Ir. Not only is mixing of the air a problem but most particles will not stay in the air long enough to be exposed to the UV light for multiple passes. So only a relatively small...

So, you have confirmed exactly what this thread is about - UV lights will destroy any materials made of hydrocarbons exposed to the UV lights. This is a major problem since buyers are not informed...

It is possible that this individual is sensitive to ozone. No harm in turning their ionizer off for a week and seeing what happens with the "experiment."

It does not sound like your HVAC system...

TB
I think you missed the point. I did not say that ventilation and dehumidification are not part of comprehensive allergen avoidance. What I said was that they are not a cure all. Proper...

TB
It is hard to stay mad at someone when they apologize. In fact, I did see your ad and I applaud you for supporting this site. However, I think you will agree that mention of a product in a...

TB
Your response is a blatant advertisement for your product. You forgot to mention you sell Ultra-Air.

If you want to advertise on the site, pay for it. Otherwise you need to keep your...

Jim Davis, I think you must have missed some decimal points somewhere. The levels you state are at least 100 times greater than acceptable limits.

The FDA and UL limits for air cleaning devices...