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    Thank you very much, for the information!

    Thank you very much, for the information!
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    Thank you for your response. I appreciate your...

    Thank you for your response. I appreciate your information.
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    One license was listed for an "Olive Garden"...

    One license was listed for an "Olive Garden" resturant as a boiler licensed for hot water supply. Domestic Hot water heaters are not licensed and regulated, so this is definetly a boiler. My question...
  4. Thread: Boiler Question

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    My last question concerned the difference between...

    My last question concerned the difference between boilers and hot water heaters. I will repost the question here in hope of receiving an answer from someone willing to help me understand:

    In...
  5. Thread: Boiler Question

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    I would still appreciate a response to my...

    I would still appreciate a response to my question. If you read it, you will see that it has NOTHING to do with the previous questions I asked.

    [U]Please give my questions some understanding, as...
  6. Thread: Boiler Question

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    User,Cagey57; If you read my question, you...

    User,Cagey57;

    If you read my question, you will see that it is valid and worthy of response. Any replies are greatly appreciated
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    Here is a valid question that I have; In going...

    Here is a valid question that I have;

    In going through the TDLR Boiler Records, I have seen many licensed Boilers that are for the purpose of providing domestic hot water. Many laundry centers,...
  8. Thread: Boiler Question

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    I am just going by what an experienced member of...

    I am just going by what an experienced member of the forum stated. If it's not true why did he say it........?
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    This quote by the user; "DeltaT" is one of the...

    This quote by the user; "DeltaT" is one of the main statements that convinced me that boilers for hydronic steam/hot water heat are only installed in older buildings.: DeltaT
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    I have asked and will continue to ask some...

    I have asked and will continue to ask some legitimate questions related to boilers and hydronic heat. I will try and focus more on the technical details. Thank you to all who have contributed so far!
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    I have yet to see any examples of a brand new...

    I have yet to see any examples of a brand new building using the district steam loop posted here.
  12. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Other comments that give me the impression that...

    Other comments that give me the impression that boilers/district steam are no longer installed in new buildings:

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    I asked this question in another thread sometime...

    I asked this question in another thread sometime back. Here was one response which led to my thinking:

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  14. Thread: Boiler Question

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    I have toured several buildings. Those built...

    I have toured several buildings. Those built after 1982; did not utilize hydronic heat.

    I did tour a building built in 1904 that did have boilers for HW heating. Of course that building was over...
  15. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Buildings built after 1982, do not utilize any...

    Buildings built after 1982, do not utilize any form of hydronic heat, be it on site boilers or district steam. I could show you plenty of older buildings which utilize district steam for space...
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    I have yet to receive a reply on this question;...

    I have yet to receive a reply on this question; "Why is district steam not utilized in newly constructed buildings for space heating?" The buildings that are connected to a city's steam loop always...
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    Thanks for your input. Would viewing a few more...

    Thanks for your input. Would viewing a few more pictures help, with your anaylsis?
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    "Piping Mistakes"??? Now I'm curious. I will...

    "Piping Mistakes"??? Now I'm curious. I will attach two other pictures, for you to view. Could you please elaborate on the "mistakes"? Thank you for your interest.362011362021
  19. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Why do you say that?Please be specific. Having...

    Why do you say that?Please be specific. Having been in this boiler room personally, I can tell you that the water heater is located on the other side of the room. This boiler is connected to a pump...
  20. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Thanks again. I was asking more specifically, if...

    Thanks again. I was asking more specifically, if that type of boiler pictured would normally require an operator, perhaps in your area? Thanks for the clarification.
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    Thanks so much for the info. So, the boiler...

    Thanks so much for the info. So, the boiler pictured, would not need an operator on a daily bases?
  22. Thread: Boiler Question

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    I was refering to the backup heat. Sorry for the...

    I was refering to the backup heat. Sorry for the confusion. I still can't understand why the boiler in my picture does not have an operator. The staff member I spoke to, stated, he knew nothing about...
  23. Thread: Boiler Question

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    [QUOTE=timmy2734;15325661] It's very common for...

    [QUOTE=timmy2734;15325661]
    It's very common for new buildings to use RTU's. QUOTE]

    You just stated exactly was I have been trying to emphasize. New buildings utilize RTUs rather than...
  24. Thread: Boiler Question

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    I am in Dallas, and every new building here...

    I am in Dallas, and every new building here utilizes electric heat strips. Including the building I was an apprentice at. They were 15+ stories tall, and every floor had heatrix boxes. I have read...
  25. Thread: Boiler Question

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    When you say built in '98 are you refering to the...

    When you say built in '98 are you refering to the building or the boilers themselves??? I didn't say it was uncommon for an old building to put new boilers in.What I did say is that new buildins do...
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    Once again, I apologize for trying the patience...

    Once again, I apologize for trying the patience of those who have been helpful.

    I wish I had more opportunities to tour different facilities, and learn about the variety of equipment that many...
  27. Thread: Boiler Question

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    My previous question has not been answered. ...

    My previous question has not been answered.

    Are heat recovery chillers ever installed in newly constructed buildings?? As I stated before they seem pretty rare in general.
  28. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Interesting. When I stated that; "no new...

    Interesting. When I stated that; "no new buildings use boilers", I was refering to space heating. Perhaps, they are doing that here?? More than likely its for laundry, sterlization, or domestic water.
  29. Thread: Boiler Question

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    You would not see a new hospital heated by steam....

    You would not see a new hospital heated by steam. Think of the lawsuit of a patient burned themselves on a radiator/unit ventilator .Plenty of older hospitals using it though.
    And by older, I mean...
  30. Thread: Boiler Question

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    What exactly do you mean by that??

    What exactly do you mean by that??
  31. Thread: Boiler Question

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    I thought the sears tower had electric boilers...

    I thought the sears tower had electric boilers for hot water heat?? This is another example of an older building which utilizes hydronic heat. If it had been built in 1993 rather than 1973, it would...
  32. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Even, in new buildings??

    Even, in new buildings??
  33. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Interesting information. Would co-generation,...

    Interesting information. Would co-generation, require a boiler? Based on what others have said I always thought that emissions would be a great part of why new buildings don't want a boiler on the...
  34. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Thank you for taking the time to offer an...

    Thank you for taking the time to offer an explanation. As I said earlier I am not trying to come across as disrespectful, I am just attempting to research my question thoroughly before jumping to an...
  35. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Another question that came up; "Are heat recovery...

    Another question that came up; "Are heat recovery chillers used in any new buildings for space heating?"

    The application seems so rare altogether, that it seems unlikely. As I stated earlier, I...
  36. Thread: Boiler Question

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    My question concerns the operation of heat...

    My question concerns the operation of heat recovery chillers for hot water space heating. Not domestic hot water.
  37. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Thank you for your informative post. I greatly...

    Thank you for your informative post. I greatly appreciate you taking the time to explain the systemís operation. Tomorrow I will post some more questions.
  38. Thread: Boiler Question

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    What about heat recovery chillers for hot water...

    What about heat recovery chillers for hot water heating? I am being completely honest, when I say that this application seems quite rare. I have only heard of one building in my area, (and it is an...
  39. Thread: Boiler Question

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    As I stated earlier anything built 1981 or prior...

    As I stated earlier anything built 1981 or prior usually has a full central plant system including steam or HW heat provided by boilers, district steam, and heat recovery chillers. Anything built...
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    I can give you several examples; Bank of...

    I can give you several examples;

    Bank of America Plaza. Dallas tallest building. I haved toured it personally:...
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    QUOTE GT JETS:The problem with your statement is...

    QUOTE GT JETS:The problem with your statement is where you say heat strips, it would virtually impossible to use reclaimed heat without a hot water loop, if you have strip heat, why would you have a...
  42. Thread: Boiler Question

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    As I stated earlier, I have a few questions...

    As I stated earlier, I have a few questions regarding heat recovery chillers.

    Is the basic principal of operation, removing heat from the condensor (and heat generated by the compressor) to...
  43. Thread: Boiler Question

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    My point was that, those interested in the field...

    My point was that, those interested in the field should be aware that newer buildings (ie: LEED) arenít going to need substantial on site help. Sure, they might need a day porter who can change...
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    Again... I would like to express my sincere...

    Again... I would like to express my sincere apologies if anything I said came across as disrespectful. I am aware that everyone on here is much more experienced than I am. I am only repeating the...
  45. Thread: Boiler Question

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    No offense intended at all. As someone who has...

    No offense intended at all. As someone who has done a great deal of research on the subject, I am simply curious why those in the field, I have spoken to indicate that hydronic heat is a lost art for...
  46. Thread: Boiler Question

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    Steam and hot water is installed/replaced in...

    Steam and hot water is installed/replaced in older buildings.

    My statement was that I don't believe it to be used for heating newly constructed buildings. We've discussed why boilers are no longer...
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    The OLD 1 wtc had mechanical floors. I doubt the...

    The OLD 1 wtc had mechanical floors. I doubt the new one will, because they are using DX systems.
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    True. Although I went to one office building that...

    True. Although I went to one office building that had the original 2 chillers from 1972, still in operation. Last time I checked, the school my dad works at had 3 original pacific steam boilers...
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    GT; I appreciate your interest. Your experience...

    GT;
    I appreciate your interest. Your experience in the field shows.

    I have had the privilege of touring several class a office towers. I believe that I also mentioned that I was previously an...
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    As an aspiring building engineer, I find it...

    As an aspiring building engineer, I find it surprising to see a newer building with an onsite staff. The newest buildings are all computers automated, thus eliminating the need for a large staff of...
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