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  1. Thread: AAM bus

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    If you're sorry because my reply was so long and...

    If you're sorry because my reply was so long and hard to read ... don't be. I type (say) wayyyy to much.

    If you're sorry because yah think I was trying to give you a hard time. Don't be, not my...
  2. Thread: AAM bus

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    Ummm. Not meaning to criticize too much. But...

    Ummm. Not meaning to criticize too much. But reading what Davem and you are saying ... makes me understand ... for the first time ... why so many folks on this forum have in the past complained about...
  3. Thread: AAM bus

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    GUy, I do AAM, as well as some other makes. ...

    GUy, I do AAM, as well as some other makes.

    But I've maintained all along, every since I've been on this site, that it makes MORE difference WHO the contractor is, and how ell they do the job ......
  4. Thread: AAM bus

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    Ummm. I have no way of KNOWING the mind of the...

    Ummm. I have no way of KNOWING the mind of the original installer.

    But at a guess ... whoever it was had no clue?

    Didn't bother to read the manuals THOROUGHLY?

    Didn't bother to actually ask...
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    Can not speak about the state or states you're...

    Can not speak about the state or states you're talking about.

    But in MOST states, if you are on site, you are on site. And if your job description is covered by the state regulations, you CAN make...
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    Yep, depends on the rules of the state where you...

    Yep, depends on the rules of the state where you live.

    AND it depends on the employer. Some employers will try to BEND the rules in their favor, in various ways.
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    I'd tend to agree. I know that around here, they...

    I'd tend to agree. I know that around here, they can only claim prevailing wage for hours actually spent on the job site.

    For the company for whom I work, it's kind of a mote point. They're based...
  8. I'm not sure any of us can be 100% sure as to...

    I'm not sure any of us can be 100% sure as to whom BOTH our parents were. The mother? Sure. The genetic father? Maybe.
  9. I understand what you're saying. But most...

    I understand what you're saying. But most controls contractors aren't really thinking about the "next" contractor who is gonna be trying to integrate whatever. Most of them that I know are just...
  10. fisha, may I suggest you're being over sensitive?...

    fisha, may I suggest you're being over sensitive?

    Myself, I have yet to read a post that is bashing you, or ALC.

    As I mentioned before, I know precious little about ALC. Some, not a lot. I...
  11. My post was much too long. And I blame no one for...

    My post was much too long. And I blame no one for not actually reading it.

    MT ... just exactly where did I advocate anything except that customers or their hired consultants educate themselves?
    ...
  12. I don't know that anyone is playing around with...

    I don't know that anyone is playing around with what "Open" really means. I'm not sure that everyone is on the same page as to how each is defining "Open".

    Take, for instance, your mention of...
  13. I'm not in this thread to kick around whether ALC...

    I'm not in this thread to kick around whether ALC is good or not. I've not heard anything bad about them, but don't deal with them either EXCEPT that we've occasionally had to bring in some points...
  14. LOL ... I tend to agree. But sometimes in those...

    LOL ... I tend to agree. But sometimes in those sorts of debates one can learn useful information.

    And sometimes not.
  15. Well, certainly no one can force you to stick...

    Well, certainly no one can force you to stick around, Fisha.

    And it is up to you as to whether or not you decide that reading the threads and posts on this site are worth your time and effort.
    ...
  16. Ummm. So you're saying ALC controllers are not...

    Ummm. So you're saying ALC controllers are not NATIVE BACnet?

    Not trying to slam ALC products. From all I've heard they work well. Just trying to clear up a point, to better understand if I ever...
  17. Carrier Airconditioning & Refrigeration Ltd. 3rd...

    Carrier Airconditioning & Refrigeration Ltd.
    3rd Floor, Block III,
    Prestige Blue Chip, #9
    Hosur Road
    Bangalore, Karnataka India 560-029
    +91 12 4237 3310
  18. Yeah, I have no idea what sort of 3rd party OWS...

    Yeah, I have no idea what sort of 3rd party OWS you are using. But typically there is not a reason in this world I can think of to delete an object (what you're calling points), that I can think of....
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    Sandsailor, I am not trying to make assumptions....

    Sandsailor, I am not trying to make assumptions. Nor be difficult.

    You mentioned Lon. Then you mentioned "The US Bureau of Reclamation achieves conformity with standards set in the 1950s so that...
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    I am trying to reconcile your answer with what...

    I am trying to reconcile your answer with what ControlsInMt asked. And, I'm sorry, it does not compute.

    In certain ways and aspects, Lon does indeed have some advantages over BACnet. Mostly when...
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    And that's fine. I personally favor BACnet over...

    And that's fine. I personally favor BACnet over Lon, as does the overwhelming number of customers (to include school districts, government agencies, etc) up where I am. But there is certainly nothing...
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    Ummm, the original poster asked about the...

    Ummm, the original poster asked about the DIFFERENCE between Lon and BACnet.

    Now, I'm just passing familiar with Lon, the simple basics. Not at all familiar with the more advanced features.

    I...
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    Thanks, Digo. You are a scholar and a gentleman,...

    Thanks, Digo. You are a scholar and a gentleman, regardless of all the other things I've heard about you. :-)

    At least someone actually tried to help answer the original poster's question.

    I...
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    A good post, and worth reading. I'd not have said...

    A good post, and worth reading. I'd not have said what noskilltech did, tho I do understand his sentiment.


    "I don't know much about Backnet and don't care to learn." Quite an understandable...
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