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  1. Mark, thanks for the comments,

    Just to verify my thoughts I went by the local propane supplier (used by the builder) today to get some information, what I confirmed is there current price for propane is $1.59 per gallon for 250 -...
  2. just called the HVAC guy.

    We are now going all Electric, The stage heat on the infinity system is going to be done and I have changed to all Electroic air cleaners ... rather than the 5 media filters.

    So, again, tanks to...
  3. Thanks again, your making my decesion easier.

    wyounger and Go-Redskins, thanks for your input, it does make sense in what you are saying, I am going to look in to the equiptment you suggested Wyounger, sounds interesting I know that the...
  4. So, I made a big mistake did I

    So, thanks for correcting my assumptions, I am going to use the Infinity Heat Pump.. the original idea was to use propane as the secondary energy with the gas furnace, at least that is what I have...
  5. Still trying to decide, the more I read the more info I want!

    Hey Go-Redskins.... I liked your analysis of propane vs. electric and I'm using it to try to decide on my particular situation and you make a good point on dual fuel system.

    Currently, our...
  6. Here in the Nashville area MTEC goes gas

    I found it interesting when looking in to a duel fuel system here in the Nashville area, the Electric company actually offers money back rebates to go to a duel fuel system with Propane.. they dont...
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    Lots of good info again, thanks..

    Well, My folks moved to Ft. Lauderdale in 55, then we moved to Plantation (west Ft.Laud) and I stayed through high school and moved to Southern California until last year when we moved to the...
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    One More thing..

    Now I think I remember, the YXa at 13 seer meets the Middle Tennessee Electric requirements for there rebate program, they require a minimum of 13 seer (on the heat pump) for split systems. I also...
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    OK, thanks.

    Thanks for the input, I am also asking the contractor about the electronic airfilter, Im not sure what one he is bidding, I asked for Honeywell, I think he bid some lower cost unit liek a "trion"?...
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    Thanks for the quick reply

    I passed the fret about money about 2 months ago after chasing a price that was a low ball and getting quality... so, I decided to bite the bullet.. (now 8,000 over my original budget line item in...
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    First I have to say I have enjoyed reading the...

    First I have to say I have enjoyed reading the posts on this forum, and for the past answers given by the group on my questions. I think now I am ready to take the plunge and at allot more expense...
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    Thanks I appreciate your input.

    Actually, I am starting to lean to Trane for many reasons, One thing is that our general contractor has been using trane for many years and has a personal friendship with the local Trane contractor...
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    So Much To learn!

    I am going to start to ask for copies of the extended agreements and see who is issueing them, I think that is the only way to get an understanding of who it is coming from and what is covered! Just...
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    Good Info, will make a couple of calls

    Actually reguarding Lennox, I need to ask the dealer who the warranty is with, although he is a big dealer, so, Im not concerned of him going out of business. The guy on the phone at Lennox really...
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    Just got off the phone with Lennox and in asking...

    Just got off the phone with Lennox and in asking a few questions about extended warranties I was told that Lennox does not actually offer the extended warranty, but the dealer sells the policy that...
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    If nothing else, I have learned to ask questions

    We are in the process of building a new house, I have asked alot of questions and one of them is on windows.., so, here is my Pella Wood/Clad info..
    .34 U Vllue
    .33 solar heat gain?
    55 % visual...
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    The one I talked to today said no..

    Ok, thanks for the reminder, the contractor I spoke with today said they do not charge extra, but asked that we be reasonible.. I can understand that..

    Actually, I purchased my first home in...
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    Im starting to get closer at understanding the...

    Im starting to get closer at understanding the HVAC options we have and now we seem to have narrowed it down to 2 very capable contractors, both well quallified, both offering 10 year Parts and Labor...
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    Sat down with another contractor yesterday!

    yesterday I went down to another HVAC dealer in Nashville with a set of updated plans and was surprised at the outcome.. here is what we saw, in writting with all the calcs..

    The energy calcs...
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    Are there still rebates available on Trane?

    I'd be interested to find out if Trane is still offering rebates and what the rebate is.. maybe it will help me in an upgrade to my installation
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    here is a real up to date heating days

    Just found this government site it has up to day heating days info.. check it out.

    http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/mer/pdf/pages/sec1_18.pdf
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    berad, one more thing.

    I just found a site that gives the gas heating days for the region, here is the site http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CKM/is_4_2003/ai_103994964 from what it shows it is an average of...
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    berad, thanks for your help,

    Well, thanks for your help, what it did do is use a set of control numbers and assumptions equally on each unit, and then with 10, 12 and 14 seer and it did give us an estimate of base line (10 seer)...
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    Thanks 41 Gasman

    Thanks, I did down load the trial version of the SW but have not had the time to run it yet, I'll have to give ita look. Also, Thanks for the info on the Insullation. I hope that I can sit dwn with...
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    chem-basee, thanks

    I have gone to BUILDINGSCIENCE.com and checked it out, some of the information is quite interesting and I am allways looking for more refference ...

    I spoke with our contractor today, he is...
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    And what his calcs gave me was fine

    I really appecated the information, what it gave me is a estimate given control numbers and senarios for each size and Seer unit. I think the idea of this model serves my purpose and since 50/50...
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    Berad, thanks, couple of questions for you.

    I really appreciate the work you put in to this, I did see the thread on the heat and cooling days, and I did go to the site via the link. Im not sure how thoes numbers get calculated either.
    ...
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    All the comments and suggestions are great

    Thanks for the reply, I will make sure the HVAC guy knows about the windows.. Hey, if I can reduce size, great, less cost to buy, less cost to run. I will get with them perhaps this week and discuss...
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    Ok, One More Question

    In our original quote we were using a package dual fuel system (trane 1200), but now, we have decided to go to a split system, so, does that mean my dual fuel system is out? I am not sure if now the...
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    All 3 untis are heat pumps,

    Sorry, I was not specific enough. All the systems will be heat pumps, the upper floor and the studio will have electric heaters not gas..
    Dave
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    Sorry I crashed a little

    Down stairs is the proposed 5 ton heat pump, dual fuel split system, the upstairs of the house is the 2 1/2ton split system and then the studio is the 2 ton system.

    Like I said before, I like...
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    units

    All units will be heat pumps, the down stairs one will be a dual fuel, electric/propane design Like I said before, the first design ws with a package unit but now were going to a split system down...
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    Wow, thanks here ya go

    I am in Lebanon Tennessee, about 17 miles east of Nashville, zip code 37087

    I was wondering about the comments about sizing of the units and so I did some looking around and based on our size how...
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    Advanced response and Dash.. thanks

    Ok,I hear what you are saying, I will quite with the price issue, I will talk to the HVAC guy re the size although, this guy is one of Trane's best installers in the area and it is he that does the...
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    Thanks, I know I asking alot

    well, I am sorry, I am not trying to go against forum rules, I have actually got lots of good info here, I think you understand my prediciment fairly well... with that said, thanks for the help you...
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    One more thing to make it easier

    This page shows the 12 seer Trane heat pump with the different tonage..
    http://trane.com/Residential/Products/HeatPumps/XR12.aspx

    This page shows the 14 seer equiptment:...
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    I could get you those numbers if you would like

    actually, those numbers are available to me, and to you.

    I don't think I am asking a difficult question, but perhpas you have answered it..

    I am just wondering if I start with a 10 seer, and...
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    I agree, the dead horse syndrome, but,

    I found it interesting to see that Goodman has a fairly good explination on their site regarding a higher seer rate for their units, at the same time, I can see on a number of sites that the Goodman...
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    Its called models in engineering.

    Well, Im not trying to be a pain, but, I just thought if the companines can say that X seer is 10, 20, 30 percent more than X seer that using a control model one could get an idea of costs. I do...
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    I agree, it is just to bad that calcs can't be done

    Maybe I'm to much of an engineer, but I'd think that there would be some way to estimate the usuage costs, just plug in the KW price and how many hours of opperation. I would suspect that there is a...
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    your probably right, but, i can not get that answer

    Thanks for the input, I agree with you on the "Builders grade" units, but all I am asking is for justification to go to the upgrade at a 70% cost upgrade and how much it will save me. is it that...
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    Now that's the type information I am needing

    Congradulations, you get a star for the refrig, that is the type of info I am looking for, Our cost per kw here in Tennessee is 6.5 per, then, as usage goes up, the cost actually goes down to 6...
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    I have the trane part numbers and brochures

    I really appreciate the help and information you folks are offering I do have the quote with all the part trane part numbers and I have the brochures, I am not opposed to a fair cost upgrade to the...
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    I guess I"l just remain confused..

    I guess I just cant grasp a 70% increase for a 10 -20% savings on electricity.. but, that's just how my brain works I guess.
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    Calcs and upgrades

    Well, the HVAC guys I am speaking with are highly rated in the area by most ocntractors, they have been around 20+ years and are well respected. I am sure they did a load calc on the home, they had...
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    Checking my options

    Well, first thing I have done is called the HVAC contractor and I am asking him for more details re energy calcs and costs, I just can't get over the difference in the upgrade units.. I am asking him...
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    Sizing comment, thanks, I"l look in to it.

    Thanks for the info on the sizing, I am just going by what the two contractors are bidding, both have said they have done the load calcs and have come up with the same sizes. The house is a raised...
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    Thanks Bornriding

    One of the considerations along with the efficency of the units I am looking for a quiet system, I like the idea of the variable speed fans in the system. The two contractors here bidding one is a...
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    Thanks for your inputs, and Sorry about $$$

    First I would like to say I appologize about the $ question, I did say in my original post that exact numbers were not what I was looking for, I'd just was wondering if the delta between systems...
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    I posted my situation here a few weeks ago and...

    I posted my situation here a few weeks ago and appreciated the response I had received, now I have had the opportunity to talk with and get couple of quotes on equipment and instillation and thought...
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