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  1. How exactly? Yep, this will bring the coil...

    How exactly?



    Yep, this will bring the coil temperature above the dew point. They specifically mention that this feature is supposed to kick in in low humidity, here:...
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    That's what I thought too until I decided to play...

    That's what I thought too until I decided to play with calendar API just for fun. Then, it turned out that it is actually very convenient - given the fact that there are many people in the family wth...
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    This kind of scheduling will be difficult to beat...

    This kind of scheduling will be difficult to beat on Arduino: http://diy-zoning.********.com/2010/01/faq-how-schedule-periods-work.html


    Fun? Yes. But then the family rebels (maybe not in your...
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    Late addition

    I'm currently moving my DIY Zoning open source project (which ran on Java for last ten years) to Android + Arduino combo.

    Details at:

    http://www.homeclimatecontrol.com/adk...
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    Sent a mail to the address you listed here -...

    Sent a mail to the address you listed here - check your spam folder if you don't see it in inbox.
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    They'll have to move all the webapp from a...

    They'll have to move all the webapp from a central server to individual thermostats, for starters. Serving pages is not difficult, rendering them (and navigating between) is. And security. And...
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    I had a gut feeling you'd say that :D And a...

    I had a gut feeling you'd say that :D

    And a little comment from myself - come on, guys, this is a technical forum. If you want to send a shill, please do it in such a way that doesn't insult the...
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    correct ...or even use them to gather...

    correct

    ...or even use them to gather aggregate stats that will allow them to improve the product

    They don't seem to be doing that. Actually, selling ads on a product support website sounds...
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    Indeed it does...

    Indeed it does.

    Now, *that* I would like to see. Prooflink, please?

    Such as?

    Well, good luck with that.
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    You just reminded me of the fortune cookie strip...

    You just reminded me of the fortune cookie strip that I pulled out many years ago and am carrying in my wallet since:

    We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't....
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    Here's a detailed personal experience...

    Here's a detailed personal experience report (hope I'm not boring regulars to death with this).

    As a matter of fact, quite a few. Honestly, it's been a while since I looked, but a casual Google...
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    :D Seems to be my prerogative to be acid... But,...

    :D Seems to be my prerogative to be acid... But, in my defense, I always back that up with irrefutable evidence. The silver lining in the cloud of being a chart geek.

    Man, news travel fast, don't...
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    As a matter of fact, it's not. I'd rather say...

    As a matter of fact, it's not. I'd rather say that it is hell bent on following whatever schedule it came up with.

    To me, the most infuriating feature of Nest is the lack of "hold" mode. It has...
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    (speaking as a consumer) Yes, it drives me nuts...

    (speaking as a consumer) Yes, it drives me nuts when someone tries to upsell me something I know damn well I don't need. ("Sir, you really need to replace that PCV valve for increased efficiency!")
    ...
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    I wasn't actually talking about a thermostat per...

    I wasn't actually talking about a thermostat per se. My pet peeve is zoning systems (see profile).
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    ...and what is that big difference between...

    ...and what is that big difference between residential and commercial to begin with?

    US residential HVAC market is stone age compared to Europe and Asia, and the only reason manufacturers get away...
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    Mine :D But you can't have it yet.

    Mine :D

    But you can't have it yet.
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    Some yes, some not that easy. Bugs are not that...

    Some yes, some not that easy. Bugs are not that difficult to fix, however, there are fundamental limitations due to the image the manufacturer chose - "the learning thermostat". It can't be made much...
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    I'd say that it's not even focused on that,...

    I'd say that it's not even focused on that, but...

    ...I daresay that they didn't even look at the point of a HVAC control. They are businessmen, and they only thing they were interested in is -...
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    Because I don't see. But of course (no sarcasm),...

    Because I don't see. But of course (no sarcasm), you have a better view into what's going on, so I'll take your word on tat.

    Agreed on all points. What I was trying to say, though, is I don't know...
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    Yep, I came from the other side of the fence :D ...

    Yep, I came from the other side of the fence :D


    ...and one thing Nest (and I, even before I heard of them) is doing that absolutely needs to happen is - HVAC systems *must* become intelligent...
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    This one won't be selling for many years....

    This one won't be selling for many years. Apparently, consumer electronics of this class have a very limited lifespan - about two years. My prediction is that they'll be manufacturing "plus", "ultra"...
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    As a consumer, I gotta agree with them on this....

    As a consumer, I gotta agree with them on this. I'm talking about hardware, not people - there are brilliant professionals I have deepest respect for.

    This is not a flamebait - feel free to look...
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    For fairness' sake, installing Nest is much less...

    For fairness' sake, installing Nest is much less painful than others :)

    But seriously, though, you gotta admit that those elitists hit the nail on the head. Never before average people (and HVAC...
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    Would be interesting to hear your long term...

    Would be interesting to hear your long term impressions. Mine can be summarized in two words - "sorely disappointed" - but I'm not their target audience.

    On the other hand, Nest itself is as...
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