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    Which model between the manufacturers? Both...

    Which model between the manufacturers? Both RIDGID and Rothenberger make about 6 different pieces of threading equipment each.



    Rothenberger plumbing tools, in my experience, are top notch and...
  2. Maybe they are trying to get around the BA...

    Maybe they are trying to get around the BA buddies that are never out of work yet may not perform to expectations that get sent out from a call to the hall and rather reach out to the other "union...
  3. And why would 597 accept a transfer from a sheet...

    And why would 597 accept a transfer from a sheet metal worker?

    If you aren't structural welding or 6G pipe certified, what good are you as a pipefitter? Not that being AWS structural certified is...
  4. Then why do they make you (apprentice) choose...

    Then why do they make you (apprentice) choose HVAC or BT when you sign up?
  5. LU 597 tests only once a year, and they just did...

    LU 597 tests only once a year, and they just did it. Applications are taken every month- instructions are on their website.

    I wouldn't be "scared" of the test, but the study guide will help. If...
  6. Lots of math questions, fractions in particular....

    Lots of math questions, fractions in particular. No calculator allowed. Lots of picture based questions.

    The title of the study guide is "Apprentice Aptitude Battery" "Test Taking Tips" looks like...
  7. When I went through the interview process, there...

    When I went through the interview process, there were several stations with two interviewers: a LU597 employee (as in agent or instructor) and a contractor representative. This was done to cycle...
  8. From your perspective, age may be just a number....

    From your perspective, age may be just a number.

    I think you will have a heck of a time getting meaningful employment though.

    Good luck.
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    As I understand it, told by a couple of people...

    As I understand it, told by a couple of people that I know that have retired, somehow the union is able to look at previous employment. Permission to search (so to speak) is given by the retiree as...
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    If you took your union earnings over the last 4...

    If you took your union earnings over the last 4 years and readjusted it for full employment, what does it work out to? More or less than what you get now? You can't simply look at the 25% difference...
  11. I find it funny that someone that has the...

    I find it funny that someone that has the opportunity to own a viable business would even consider not taking the opportunity, although I understand that it isn't for everyone.

    Just as not...
  12. Yeah, HVACR is UA work. I guess that's why the...

    Yeah, HVACR is UA work.

    I guess that's why the BA's, other union officers and teachers at a nearby UA local hold building trades cards, not the lower scale HVACR cards... or that new "residential"...
  13. You will only get those union benefits if you...

    You will only get those union benefits if you work enough hours and you will only get that union retirement if you are able to continue working enough hours through the years as you get older until...
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    +1 on the "too old" part. The union sheet...

    +1 on the "too old" part.

    The union sheet metal HVAC companies in my part of the Chicago area simply won't hire you.

    There are no "older worker" quotas in the contract. Age discrimination can't...
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    That is an SDS-Plus drill, and it will do more...

    That is an SDS-Plus drill, and it will do more work than a regular SDS drill.

    Still no comparison to a spline drive or hex shank rotary hammer.

    If you plan to cut through 4" of concrete more...
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    In my area, I have applied at 2 non-union shops....

    In my area, I have applied at 2 non-union shops.

    One expected you to provide everything, the only thing they supplied was B tank and nitrogen tank exchanges, brazing rod and small consumables like...
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    Never heard of the NSMA (National Service...

    Never heard of the NSMA (National Service Maintenance Agreement).

    It appears that they use local UA contractors that are part of the MCAA (Mechanical Contractors Association of America), correct?...
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    So, if the Local UA has a split scale for...

    So, if the Local UA has a split scale for Building Trades and HVAC, then the National rate = Local HVAC?
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    So, what's the difference between a local...

    So, what's the difference between a local signatory and national?

    Yes. Chicago fitters seem to have multiple cards and pay rates.
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    In my area, the building trades fitters make more...

    In my area, the building trades fitters make more than the sheet metal journeymen.

    But, the UA HVAC cardholders make less than the BT fitters, and that rate is less than the sheet metal journeyman...
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    Quite possible. I could join the UA, but I...

    Quite possible. I could join the UA, but I suspect that my age will work against me once out of the apprenticeship. The UA has to accept me if I jump through their hoops and get in, but the employers...
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    That's been my experience so far. Of course,...

    That's been my experience so far.

    Of course, the piping is way too hard for mere mortals to figure out...


    :)
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    No disrespect taken.

    No disrespect taken.
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    Yes, I am in a Local, but not a UA local....

    Yes, I am in a Local, but not a UA local. Building trades and service.

    Like it or not, my numbers are in the ballpark in my area and in my local. No travelers.

    Average is just that. Some will...
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    Your numbers assume a 1,920 hours worked, which...

    Your numbers assume a 1,920 hours worked, which is essentially a full year (48 weeks at 40 hours each).

    Here are some real numbers for an average member in a given local:

    Average number of...
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    I think "competitive" is misleading. Companies...

    I think "competitive" is misleading.

    Companies choose offshore manufacturing to maintain profit margins, not to provide competitive pricing.
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    In my area, you should choose neither if you...

    In my area, you should choose neither if you intend to go through an apprenticeship program (union).

    Electricians, sheet metal unions and the suburban pipefitter union have many capable members...
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    Must be their really high end stuff, because I...

    Must be their really high end stuff, because I can't find a country of origin marked on their remote display amp clamp... but the box is marked "Made in China".

    This is a $400 meter.
  29. And when the current regime gets wind of someone...

    And when the current regime gets wind of someone making a run- the people trying it have to tell others to gather votes, and someone in that group *will* spill the beans to the current regime for...
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    +3 for Bahco.

    +3 for Bahco.
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    Older Makita recip saws use a roll pin to hold...

    Older Makita recip saws use a roll pin to hold the blade holder to the oscillating shaft.

    This pin is no longer available.

    I had to junk an otherwise perfectly fine Makita recip saw because the...
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    Yup, and only a small part of what they have is...

    Yup, and only a small part of what they have is available in the USA.

    Parent company is Festo.
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    I have used DeWalt and own the old style...

    I have used DeWalt and own the old style Milwaukee 18v NiCd.

    The DeWalt has more strokes per minute and chews up batteries. Speed is hard to control- it is either off or "full on".

    Between...
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    Well, when you do good on the competence exam,...

    Well, when you do good on the competence exam, the interview goes well, and then you get the "oh" when (union) employment history comes up... or when things stop when the U word comes up before...
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    Yes, it is entirely the fault of the companies. ...

    Yes, it is entirely the fault of the companies.

    Not the union employees that don't care about their employer.

    You know, the guys that show up late, leave early, take long breaks, take long...
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    I would imagine that (almost) every non-union...

    I would imagine that (almost) every non-union employer is part of a different health plan.

    I have a non-union, non-HVAC job and the employer only pays for part of the health coverage because there...
  37. Inductive amp clamp, between contactor (T1) and...

    Inductive amp clamp, between contactor (T1) and Molex plug connection.
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    Why?

    Why?
  39. Unsealed ductwork in an attic is a killer- it can...

    Unsealed ductwork in an attic is a killer- it can wipe out 30% of your capacity.

    You should check your return temperature at a far room (in the room, next to the grille) and again at the unit. Do...
  40. How is this leakage determined?

    How is this leakage determined?
  41. Split System Compressor Amp Draw, Single Phase: "Normal" Discrepancy between Legs?

    Had a buddy call with what seemed to be odd amp readings.

    This particular unit was a 3 ton, and one side measured (numbers rounded) 8 amps and the other 12.

    Voltage on each side was within 3...
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    I have found 7/8 and 1 1/8" soft copper to be...

    I have found 7/8 and 1 1/8" soft copper to be more of an oval shape than round, and this leads to problems when you try to bend it. Heck, I have never brazed 1 1/8" fittings without rounding the...
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    Do the AK and 1250 use the same probe connection?

    Do the AK and 1250 use the same probe connection?
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    I have plenty of Rothenberger gear, and it is...

    I have plenty of Rothenberger gear, and it is very good quality.

    If I needed one of their lever style benders, I wouldn't hesitate. I already have Imperial lever benders.

    The Rothenberger...
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    I suspect it has everything to do with the...

    I suspect it has everything to do with the difference between the retail price that the customer is willing pay and the wholesale price that the supply house pays.

    I'd bet dollars to donuts that...
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    Looks a lot like a Refco manifold.

    Looks a lot like a Refco manifold.
  47. Last I heard, it takes 7 hours to fill an...

    Last I heard, it takes 7 hours to fill an acetylene bottle, size doesn't matter.
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    That's an easy one. The bigger shops have a...

    That's an easy one.

    The bigger shops have a scheduled breakdown board in the dispatch office. Check up on that puppy in the morning with your milk and cookies, and you are good to go.

    The newer...
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    I'd request that day off now...

    I'd request that day off now...
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    What were you expecting, warm cookies and milk? ...

    What were you expecting, warm cookies and milk?

    :)
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