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    The contractor I hired actually installed my...

    The contractor I hired actually installed my brothers hvac 5 years ago.

    So your suggestion was I should've trusted someone after 1 or 2 bids?? Did you read the part about the fact that NONE of the...
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    Thanks for all the responses. To answer your...

    Thanks for all the responses. To answer your questions:
    1. Yes this was a prof install;
    2. Had 8 contractors give bids (all had been in business for at least 8 years & great bbb/Angie's list...
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    A few more pictures.

    A few more pictures.
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    Opinions on a New Installation

    Just had a new hvac installed and a looking for opinions. The ducts are connected with zip ties for the most part - there appears to be some sealant spread haphazardly around. There is no pea trap...
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    He did call Trane twice (the second time with a...

    He did call Trane twice (the second time with a part number) so they probably gave him the correct information. Thanks for your time but he is going to have the Trane installed tomorrow.
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    William My brother got the part number from the...

    William
    My brother got the part number from the tech (4pxcc037bc3hca). He called Trane and Trane did confirm that it will allow for the tax rebate & also that the system provides a 2 year labor...
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    My brother called Trane and Trane does offer a...

    My brother called Trane and Trane does offer a coil that will qualify for the tax rebate. He needs to call the tech to determine the part number for the coil. He also did talk about a thorough flush...
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    William Thanks I sent him over your email & a...

    William
    Thanks I sent him over your email & a copy of your post (he is out of town). As far as changing line-set or flushing, the reason his system is being replaced is because the compressor blew...
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    Even better, I'll email you the proposal.

    Even better, I'll email you the proposal.
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    Let me know if you want me to send a pm of the...

    Let me know if you want me to send a pm of the quote he has. If you are competative with it and sell Trane then I might be able to get him to give you a try.
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    I agree with you about it seeming too good to be...

    I agree with you about it seeming too good to be true and thats why I suggested to my brother that he get a list of references & his licensing date. He did find out that he has been a member of the...
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    I did mean the tax savings on the $1500. The tech...

    I did mean the tax savings on the $1500. The tech indicated he checked through Trane to ensure the tax benefit applied. I guess we'll find out for sure at a later date.
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    I havent checked it out personally, my brother...

    I havent checked it out personally, my brother did. The tech also included the rebate of $1500 as well as a $400 rebate from Trane on the contract.
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    He is saying that if the compressor fails within...

    He is saying that if the compressor fails within 90 days then Tranes warranty replaces the entrire system. After the 90 day period then the component that fails is replaced.
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    Thanks Ryan, if his install turns out nice I...

    Thanks Ryan, if his install turns out nice I might just have to buy one with the amount hes paying.
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    Finally have the proposal. First, the techs...

    Finally have the proposal. First, the techs explanation for the 90 days warranty was that he actually was meaning to say that an entire system replacement (including labor) was 90 days. Actual labor...
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    Thanks, very good info!

    Thanks, very good info!
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    I called Trane today and they did confirm that...

    I called Trane today and they did confirm that every Trane comes with at least a 1 year labor warranty & that Trane would intervene with the dealer to force the dealer to provide the warranty. My...
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    Well that says it all thanks. I have no idea what...

    Well that says it all thanks. I have no idea what to think now except he really needs to check him out even more thoroughly.
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    Thanks, is that a Trane requirement or just...

    Thanks, is that a Trane requirement or just optional by the tech. That also reminds me that I told him to get the model numbers on the estimate.
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    Thanks, at this point he doesnt want to get any...

    Thanks, at this point he doesnt want to get any additional estimates. He did find out that Trane authorized distributors are supposed to provide an automatic 1 year warranty. The tech is an...
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    Thanks for all the information. He is leaning...

    Thanks for all the information. He is leaning towards the first quote since its a Trane but sees a major problem with a 90 day warranty. Does anyone know the cost of an extended warranty through...
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    Full HVAC Install Advice

    My brother just received quotes on a full install in Fort Worth TX on an 1800 sq ft house.

    Basically looking at 16 seer (13 is minimum) because of the 1500 tax credit it winds up being cheaper. ...
  24. Need A Good HVAC Tech in the Fort Worth Area

    My brother's compressor blew up over the weekend. He is in need of a good tech in the area. Anyone have an recomendations? Thanks
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    I wouldn't be so sure about the argument of...

    I wouldn't be so sure about the argument of relying on the warranty. The company that installed the new system in my office building last year was in business for 15 years. They filed bankruptcy...
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    The tech was indicating that he has had...

    The tech was indicating that he has had situations where he could not lower the leakage to his particular satisfaction and attributed it to punctured ducts.

    I'm not sure if I was quoted an...
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    I requested info and a quote on Aeroseal. The...

    I requested info and a quote on Aeroseal. The tech was very forthright and advised that it could not seal larger leaks within the walls (usually punctured during construction). Another drawback was...
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    Since Mark has responded, I will chime in again...

    Since Mark has responded, I will chime in again with my opinion.

    The consensus of the posts here indicate that most techs would have followed Mark's diagnosis - to replace the unit. This, despite...
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    Since John is choosing not to report the incident...

    Since John is choosing not to report the incident then I'll stay out of this then (of course he could have stopped into my office since we also work together). :-)

    I will answer your post though...
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    Of course I told my brother to turn off the...

    Of course I told my brother to turn off the system (which he already did do) and let me look at it when I returned to the area. When someone suggests replacing a unit (at substantial cost) I am not...
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    What he did wrong was giving his professional...

    What he did wrong was giving his professional opinion that he needed a new unit when all that was needed was to tilt the unit to the proper angle. Nothing else was wrong except the missing secondary...
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    It's actually even worse than that. The unit...

    It's actually even worse than that. The unit itself was tilted so much that the water was leaking over the side of the pan! The action I took was to level the unit and first determine whether the PVC...
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    HVAC Tech Diagnosis Gone Wrong??

    I'd like to get an objective opinion from some pros on an HVAC problem my brother encountered. My brother noticed water leaking from his attic and found that the condensation pan was leaking. I was...
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    As a homeowner, I would never expect a HVAC...

    As a homeowner, I would never expect a HVAC company to be available 24/7. As with any other business I deal with, I just hope they will honor their warranty in a reasonable time.

    It's funny that...
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    As I said, didn't see an install that a...

    As I said, didn't see an install that a "homeowner" posted where most thought the installer did a great job (even in the "wall of pride" section - at least on the first page. lol
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    Isn't that pretty much what you guys critique...

    Isn't that pretty much what you guys critique homeowners pictures of their newly installed HVAC units? The only difference is really that the HVAC installer is usually already paid. I don't think...
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    My theory is that the reason that scamming is so...

    My theory is that the reason that scamming is so prevalent in the HVAC industry is simply because the overall reliability of HVAC systems are high today and when they do fail, many times they are...
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    My technique isn't about getting a lower price -...

    My technique isn't about getting a lower price - it's about weeding out the scammers who are performing uneccesary work (ie claiming entire system is bad when it's only a capacitor).
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    And this would be the reason I take on all...

    And this would be the reason I take on all repairs myself. Seems most service people I've had contact with over the years have this mentality.

    One little trick I use to avoid this type of gouging...
  40. Why would you pay anything if the unit was...

    Why would you pay anything if the unit was defective and installed within the warranty period (absent owner misuse)?
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    Re: Re: r

    revenex

    I was wondering about the denial of warranty claims by the manufacturer (ie Goodman).
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    r

    Have any HVAC techs had residential warranty claims denied based upon the lack of homeowner "normal" maintenance of the AC unit?
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    For the most part I agree with you. And the...

    For the most part I agree with you. And the incompetency/scammers aren't limited to HVAC.

    I bought 4 tires for my Porsche and was quoted $70 to mount/balance them. When I went later to pick up the...
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    I am not giving out DIY advice so I don't thiink...

    I am not giving out DIY advice so I don't thiink the rules are being violated but thanks for the link.

    Hmm, you are "not money motivated?" Didn't you just say this a couple of posts above "We it...
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    Face it, there will be DIYers in every field...

    Face it, there will be DIYers in every field (except maybe rocket science - lol).

    What I find difficult to understand is why it bothers you so much. You claim that DIYers make you a lot more...
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    Not at all. What I am saying though is that it is...

    Not at all. What I am saying though is that it is not rocket science. Would I replace an entire system - probably not as long as I could find a competant-reputable tech.

    There are risks to...
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    I've been diagnosing & repairing my a/c as well...

    I've been diagnosing & repairing my a/c as well as assisting family for about 5 years now without a problem repairing it myself except on two occasions:

    1. Five years ago when I bought my house...
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