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    Navigate to the Downstream N2 Network (Network...

    Navigate to the Downstream N2 Network (Network Connections / Metasys N2 / Network 1) in the navigation pane. Go to its properties page, then Performance, then Performance Details. You should be able...
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    I have never seen all of the N2 devices on a bus...

    I have never seen all of the N2 devices on a bus die at the same time. If it was a lightning strike or power hit there would probably be some physical evidence. I would suspect a cut N2 bus close to...
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    My contact information is in my profile if you...

    My contact information is in my profile if you need assistance from S4.
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    The N2 Router can simultaneously support the...

    The N2 Router can simultaneously support the legacy Metasys BMS head end with your BACnet head end. Where did you see the offline indication? Is the Metasys supervisory controller still in the...
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    Bring up the S4 Open Management Console and look...

    Bring up the S4 Open Management Console and look at the performance stats for the N2 bus. They are pretty typical data communications stats. Are you seeing timeouts? Do you see close to the same...
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    You should be conducting this test with the...

    You should be conducting this test with the Metasys supervisory controller unplugged. You can only have one master on the N2 bus and the ComBus Quick Tester acts like a bus master. I have never heard...
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    You can call your distributor, or S4 directly,...

    You can call your distributor, or S4 directly, any time that you have questions like this. The red flag here is that Devices says 255. The Combus Quick Tester is a JCI device so it gives you an...
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    I can confirm from our investigations of the...

    I can confirm from our investigations of the Microlite panels here at S4 that they use some proprietary N2 commands that are not documented in the N2 specification. There were not enough of those out...
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    Hi Mark. I have had several of our integration...

    Hi Mark. I have had several of our integration partners finding the Metasys N2 version of the Microlite replacement for the Metasys Integrated Lighting Panel (ILC) in legacy installations. Do you...
  10. Sorry, plans changed I will not make it to the...

    Sorry, plans changed I will not make it to the Summit this year. Enjoy the event!
  11. Thread: JCI

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    First of all, thank you Reaper for the mention....

    First of all, thank you Reaper for the mention. Everything that Reaper says is accurate. The difference with our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router is that we turn each legacy N2 device into an open BACnet-IP...
  12. BAS-atechs you might want to look at the article...

    BAS-atechs you might want to look at the article I just published on The S4 Group web site http://www.thes4group.com/articles/enhancing-dx-9100-usability
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    Check with Centaurus Prime...

    Check with Centaurus Prime http://www.centaurusprime.com
    Bob Caldwell has done a number of integrations.
  14. Emanuel, If you are willing to consider other...

    Emanuel, If you are willing to consider other approaches our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router can integrate into the DX-9100s and publish them as emulated BACnet IP devices. Then, you can use any BACnet OWS...
  15. I will. It will be good to see you again! Best...

    I will. It will be good to see you again! Best wishes for a successful event.
  16. BAS-atechs, Thanks for giving the DX-9100 the...

    BAS-atechs,

    Thanks for giving the DX-9100 the recognition that it deserves. Those things were workhorses!

    Let me know if you would like any information about our S4 Open appliances and the...
  17. A BD type point can hold anything that the N2...

    A BD type point can hold anything that the N2 device programmer wanted it to. It could be a small integer, It could be a Boolean Point, It could be a Multistate point. In your integration you need to...
  18. You should really be asking JCI that question. I...

    You should really be asking JCI that question. I can't speak for them!
  19. Several times we considered porting the S4 Open:...

    Several times we considered porting the S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router application code to the JACE platform. Every time we walked away from it because we would have had to abandon our core capability of...
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    Where can I find the GC9100E programming tool?

    Where can I find the GC9100E programming tool?
  21. You have a very solid concept that could be...

    You have a very solid concept that could be supported by our BACnet-N2 Router. Here are some related articles that should be helpful.

    There is an answer describing what we can do today. This...
  22. Is there a market for a small device that adds...

    Is there a market for a small device that adds the equivalent of Passthrough support to JACE installations? If so, what would people be willing to pay for it? This is something we have considered in...
  23. That is the secret and HVAC Pro or GX9100 act as...

    That is the secret and HVAC Pro or GX9100 act as a bus master. They compete with your supervisory controller for control of the N2 bus. The S2 device tests the N2 bus before you use it for HVAC Pro....
  24. Try using the S2USB485 from S Squared Innovations...

    Try using the S2USB485 from S Squared Innovations or a USB to 485 adapter from B&B Electronics. We use both of these all the time without any issues.

    What I have seen is that when HVAC Pro gets a...
  25. Tell me more about the environment that you are...

    Tell me more about the environment that you are working in. Upload and Download are multiple transaction functions which makes them especially sensitive to the N2 bus being completely quiet during...
  26. Let me know if you need any additional...

    Let me know if you need any additional information on our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router. My contact information is in my profile.
    - Confirmed, you can co-exist with the Metasys supervisory controller....
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    Support for VMAs and System-91 devices is also...

    Support for VMAs and System-91 devices is also straight forward with the S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router.
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    No, we looked at doing a S2 gateway to the...

    No, we looked at doing a S2 gateway to the pre-Metasys JC8500 technology but didn't find the market demand. In addition, finding a way to keep this very old technology working has become an issue.
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    Please refer to this FAQ on the S4 web site...

    Please refer to this FAQ on the S4 web site http://www.thes4group.com/faqs/can-i-integrate-to-early-generation-chassis-based-metasys-panels
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    JCI used to make a subset of the N2 Open...

    JCI used to make a subset of the N2 Open documentation available for hardware vendors who wanted to include the N2 protocol in their products. This was called the Metasys Compatibility Program and...
  31. Thread: Niagara Summit

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    I will be attending.

    I will be attending.
  32. If I remember correctly the answer is yes. You...

    If I remember correctly the answer is yes. You will get the trap definitions as a part of the MIB. What you will not get is the conditions under which that trap is triggered or the contact of the...
  33. There are utilities available that will perform a...

    There are utilities available that will perform a MIB walk against a device and record the results. This will typically tell you the structure of all of the MIBs in a device. Then the hard work...
  34. Thread: TEC3000 prn

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    With our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router multi-state...

    With our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router multi-state points will be mapped to the appropriate BACnet Multistate object, MSI, MSO, or MSV with the enumerations of your choice. The N2 Router publishes to...
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    The context in which you are having these...

    The context in which you are having these discussions makes a huge difference. What is happening in the DX-9100 itself differs from the transactions flowing on the N2 bus, and that is still different...
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    The process to put a point into "Override" in any...

    The process to put a point into "Override" in any System91 device is much different than for a N2 Open or VMA device. If the driver doesn't implement this function correctly you will not be able to...
  37. The configuration function is one of the ways...

    The configuration function is one of the ways that Who-Is and I-Am are utilized. That is to automatically discover and configure BACnet devices, maintain routing tables, etc.

    Another very...
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    To be successful you first need to understand how...

    To be successful you first need to understand how the mechanical systems that you are controlling work. If you don't have that the best programming skills in the world won't help. IT training will...
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    That's a good idea. We are in the process of...

    That's a good idea. We are in the process of looking for some of these devices for use in our test lab to validate the compatibility with our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router and S4 Open: OPC-N2 Router N2...
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    Metasys FEC devices needed

    The S4 Group is looking for MetasysŪ FEC devices for use in our test lab so thatwe can test the new N2 protocol support in them with our S4 Open Appliances, the S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router and the S4...
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    N2 Device Repair Services

    I have frequently been asked by our partners for advice on where they can get legacy Metasys N2 devices that are no longer being manufactured repaired. We don't do this at The S4 Group. So, I started...
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    Make sure that you have unique N2 addresses on...

    Make sure that you have unique N2 addresses on all devices that you put on the same bus. These may be set by either switches or software depending on the device.
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    We have been using converter products from B&B...

    We have been using converter products from B&B Electronics for years and have been very happy with them. I'd recommend that you check them out.
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    Check with Chipkin Automation Systems. I believe...

    Check with Chipkin Automation Systems. I believe that Peter has recently completed an integration to these systems.

    See...
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    Our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router can give you a cost...

    Our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router can give you a cost effective migration path to a BACnet-compliant open environment. It allows you to utilize all of the Metasys N2 field devices and start out the...
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    Please add me to the list of those requesting the...

    Please add me to the list of those requesting the stencils. My contact information is in my profile.
  47. Thread: Open protocols

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    Sam hit it square on the head! Your supplier was...

    Sam hit it square on the head! Your supplier was making excuses for their own inadequacies and limitations.
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    Andrew, It sounds like you are using the MOXA...

    Andrew,

    It sounds like you are using the MOXA devices to extend the N2 bus over the Ethernet infrastructure. Correct?

    One of the things that we found out (actually reinforced what we already...
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    The only thing I can add is a brute force...

    The only thing I can add is a brute force approach to making things better. Most repeaters not only amplify the signals but they also clean up noise, etc. You can get mega-hours into troubleshooting...
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    If conditions are perfect the N2 bus will run...

    If conditions are perfect the N2 bus will run without a reference wire but you are playing with fire. The reference wire makes sure that all of the voltages are being considered from a common...
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