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  1. Hard to say after the fact. Line voltage goes...

    Hard to say after the fact. Line voltage goes thru circuit boards and any corroded contacts at any point could generate enough heat to cause this mess. For what it's worth...that is one of the...
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    Your likely to have more CO produced by a gas...

    Your likely to have more CO produced by a gas oven and range if you do heavy duty cooking (Thanksgiving) and let it run long enough to consume the oxygen available.
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    That's crazy high pricing. The first guy was...

    That's crazy high pricing. The first guy was closer to what you typically see, but seems like a crook.

    Talk to trusted sources and see who they use.
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    A complete system would included an AC. Around...

    A complete system would included an AC. Around here the two figures he mentioned would be an entry level to nice complete system with AC included. If furnace only it's extremely high.
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    I hate 'em and avoid wearing them whenever...

    I hate 'em and avoid wearing them whenever possible. But they are always in my right cargo pocket. I'll make a big show of putting them on in the wealthier homes. I don't mean to make a production...
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    Sure the second guy was quoting furnace only? ...

    Sure the second guy was quoting furnace only? That sounds like complete system pricing. Said pricing not allowed here, mind you; and will likely be removed soon.

    Forget about the first guy.
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    That looks exactly like like my wedding ring -...

    That looks exactly like like my wedding ring - which has lived in my nightstand for years now.

    Lose it...you just made a considerable withdraw from your luck account.
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    Huh?

    Huh?
  9. Thread: Malware

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    I was in office supplies for many years...but now...

    I was in office supplies for many years...but now about 10 years ago. Ribbons were still being sold. The legal community still uses electronic memory typewriter machines, IBM Selectrics and such...
  10. Thread: Malware

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    Yep...old as dirt. I instantly pictured the...

    Yep...old as dirt.

    I instantly pictured the old Underwood I typed all my papers on when I read "carriage return."

    No malware issues then, I tell ya...Took a while to get a reply however.
  11. Thread: Malware

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    Well if anyone had any doubts as to which era you...

    Well if anyone had any doubts as to which era you hearken from... ;)
  12. Or how they retro'd all the ACs in for 10K SF. Or...

    Or how they retro'd all the ACs in for 10K SF. Or redid the loop(s) for the boilers...still use the boiler(s). They never include the important stuff...

    Fascinating...the way they used to build...
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    Someone whose work doesn't demonstrate that they...

    Someone whose work doesn't demonstrate that they are licensed.
  14. Check out the house of Magic Chef founder

    I had no idea this even existed. We have much older restored period homes - but they are tiny compared to this.

    http://www.ksdk.com/story/entertainment/2014/01/27/magic-chef-mansion/4948409/
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    Tell him, for his convenience, you'll drop them...

    Tell him, for his convenience, you'll drop them off at the local authority in charge of mechanical inspections - along with pictures of his work.
  16. It's a gamble none of us can make for you. Many...

    It's a gamble none of us can make for you. Many 15 year old units go on for a few or even five or more years after a motor, circuit board or other significant repair. Or something else significant...
  17. Did they leave you the manuals? Often a slow...

    Did they leave you the manuals? Often a slow blink or "heart beat" simply means normal operation - no call for heat present. Errors are typically in the form of a code - so many fast and slow...
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    Frankly, that really pi$$es me off - especially...

    Frankly, that really pi$$es me off - especially given the brain dead install he did. He didn't give you what you paid for...that's not a sale in my book.

    Your combustion air is piped in, and I...
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    I did it mid forties, but I used an accredited...

    I did it mid forties, but I used an accredited tech school certificate as a foot in the door. An employer will want to see you had enough interest and investment, as well as being specifically...
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    Send 24 thru the acc contacts as you would an...

    Send 24 thru the acc contacts as you would an ordinary humidistat, it's just a switch in series with a load.
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    Uh...no. A bypass humidifier humidifier depends...

    Uh...no. A bypass humidifier humidifier depends on the pressure difference between the supply and return to introduce the moisture into the air stream. You'd need a powered humidifier with it's own...
  22. Gas pressure would be the very first item to...

    Gas pressure would be the very first item to check.
  23. Just off the top of my head I'd say a 135* limit...

    Just off the top of my head I'd say a 135* limit for a furnace of that size seems a bit low. It is not routine for any manufacturer to authorize a higher temp limit. However if it was my own...
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    Slaughter a cow or something and replace that old...

    Slaughter a cow or something and replace that old $h!t; all of it.

    JFC...
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    Most likely you are smelling the insulation on...

    Most likely you are smelling the insulation on the blower motor windings burning and it is very soon to fail.
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    Household chemicals, laundry detergent. I don't...

    Household chemicals, laundry detergent. I don't believe I've ever had a weak flame signal from a dirty flame rod in a 90% with combustion air piped in from outside to a sealed or protected...
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    Damn! You need a service area...

    Damn! You need a service area...
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    It's A Tat shop on Olive just east of 170....

    It's A Tat shop on Olive just east of 170. Apparently they took over the place next store years ago, so they eliminated the meter for that space but never hooked up the rtu up to the meter for their...
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    Their meter is not present...it would have been...

    Their meter is not present...it would have been the one on the left side.
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    Looks like Nate mixed up pie and kilowatts to btu...

    Looks like Nate mixed up pie and kilowatts to btu formula...
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    "We called as soon as we noticed" "I'm gonna...

    "We called as soon as we noticed"

    "I'm gonna have to ask you again...how long has the heat been down?"

    "We've never had an airflow problem"
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    For those coming in late, who did not read every...

    For those coming in late, who did not read every page or simply forgot; OP was referring to friends and family...one of whom happens to have some rental properties. He specifically mentioned dear...
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    OP will likely go very far. Especially if he...

    OP will likely go very far. Especially if he quickly comes to realize many "senior techs" are fearful, self-aggrandized and ultimately discouraging; to which end this thread could serve nicely.

    I...
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    Other than the most egregious examples as...

    Other than the most egregious examples as provided above, and it's very rare to get such detail; how in the world would a court of law prove that everything wasn't fine when you made a repair if...
  35. You've been more than patient...kind, even. I...

    You've been more than patient...kind, even. I believe it appropriate for the service manager to make an appearance in the flesh at this time.
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    I sold a top of the line Carrier system for close...

    I sold a top of the line Carrier system for close to that. 95+ efficient furnace, two stage AC, all the bells and whistles. You would need to know the particulars. It could be a fully modulating...
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    Nah...just bored. It was around 60* today.

    Nah...just bored. It was around 60* today.
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    "The law?" Would there be titles, chapters and...

    "The law?" Would there be titles, chapters and articles or anything? Or do they just call it "the law?"

    "Your Honor, I'd like to cite 'the law'..."

    This can't possibly be true as...
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    Wow. But that's pretty gross negligence, yes? ...

    Wow. But that's pretty gross negligence, yes? Most of us would probably tear him apart and say he deserved it if someone posted it on the WOS.

    I was actually being mildly sarcastic when I asked...
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    After five years I can confidently say it's...

    After five years I can confidently say it's almost always basic. Tedious and boring...to the point where you're looking hoping for something different and weird.



    Installed what? What did he...
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    I don't know any such thing. I do know that...

    I don't know any such thing. I do know that you'd be hard pressed to find white folks hanging out at any of those locations in broad daylight...much less at the late hours listed. And I don't ever...
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    I don't see any mention of the victims being...

    I don't see any mention of the victims being white; and the times and areas of the incidents would all point to simply more black on black crime.

    St. Louis, Ferguson and Rams owner be damned;...
  43. Poll: Not sure about package units, but Payne split...

    Not sure about package units, but Payne split equipment is definitely cheaper in quality.

    However infinitely better than a Carrier or Daikin if the latter are incorrectly installed. But...
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    They oversold him. No way I'd put in a...

    They oversold him. No way I'd put in a communicating system that can't communicate with the AC. And an Infinity controller for a 94 year old who just wants 75* 24/7/365? Stupid.
  45. I don't know...it wouldn't be working correctly...

    I don't know...it wouldn't be working correctly anyway given the ambient - but both pipes feeling cold and warmish air coming off the condenser sounds like AC. The liquid line always feels cold when...
  46. Sure sounds like it's running in AC mode.

    Sure sounds like it's running in AC mode.
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    Heed the advice above. This is too important to...

    Heed the advice above. This is too important to be messing around with incompetent technicians.

    The installing contractor is not the only one who can handle warranty work...and I would think your...
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    1.) It is not normal to blow a current sensing...

    1.) It is not normal to blow a current sensing relay every year and 2.) it's not the only way to energize the humidifier circuit on a call for heat.

    Find another technician.

    Wait...is the relay...
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    It's all I ever used for my primaries.

    It's all I ever used for my primaries.
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    Is that...surely it's not...no way. The PRV...

    Is that...surely it's not...no way.

    The PRV port?
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