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  1. You have stated the high quality solutions are...

    You have stated the high quality solutions are expensive.

    Would it be possible to consider that these solutions are not excessively high priced but are in fact the correct pricing to do work...
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    I have no favourite appendage for installations...

    I have no favourite appendage for installations that must utilised.

    If routing is employed it is one third of the network infrastructure cost of a proxy based solution. One can purchase a router...
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    Seemingly a popular phrase in countries such as...

    Seemingly a popular phrase in countries such as North Korea. It is baseless and without merit.

    Many proprietary solutions have unique points of sale. The intent is for repetitive sales. Many...
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    Information posted here can be wildly inaccurate...

    Information posted here can be wildly inaccurate and misleading as the previous posting most definitely demonstrates.

    Adept would be an example of a company which does not and did not use a Neuron...
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    ISO 16484 Perhaps EN 15232, and ISO 27002 as...

    ISO 16484
    Perhaps EN 15232, and ISO 27002 as well.
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    Often these larger institutional specifications...

    Often these larger institutional specifications note a paragraph outlining acceptable manufacturers.

    Specifications such as these are typically the products of a lazy mind and therefore such...
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    Certification agencies are not always helpful....

    Certification agencies are not always helpful. Companies pay large sums of annual money to maintain themselves on these lists. At times these manufacturers have older firmware which is certified and...
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    Even these canned programs are completely...

    Even these canned programs are completely editable. In addition this manufacturer has a custom block where an individual can type in code.

    Relatively easy programming language to navigate although...
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    Perhaps you may consider an examination of the...

    Perhaps you may consider an examination of the oBIX website. I have accomplished this task and the most notable thing I can discern is the last major press releases date from the year 2006. At times...
  10. It appears neither party has enough knowledge to...

    It appears neither party has enough knowledge to properly assess the situation.

    An education is in order rather than a decision. At this point in time any plans face a high level of failure as the...
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    At times it is a fine line between chuffed or...

    At times it is a fine line between chuffed or being a Tosser. A top example in the making of the start of how to be made redundant.

    Nothing stated here stands unique or special.
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    Based on the previously supplied information...

    Based on the previously supplied information perhaps it is time better spent educating students on protocols, routing and system design so they can easily discern when such manufacturers are...
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    There is a level of ignorance of the structure of...

    There is a level of ignorance of the structure of control systems and protocols and an entire lack of awareness of sales and marketing behaviour from companies which sell such secondary tier...
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    What is powerful is a good decision. I note...

    What is powerful is a good decision.

    I note much focus within old technologies and processes, so I would ask some questions.

    Why would you want:

    a middleware solution when you could route...
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    Lontalk is popular in the EU for Room Automation....

    Lontalk is popular in the EU for Room Automation. It performs well and is compact on a fieldbus network with very little overhead.

    It is also a popular solution in fire systems and elevators...
  16. Ken, You are citing as example an outdated...

    Ken,

    You are citing as example an outdated system that is being phased out (I/Net) by Schneider? How should an IT department be responsible for this situation? Is the reality is that such a system...
  17. Greetings Ken, Would you not be in agreement...

    Greetings Ken,

    Would you not be in agreement to state that when you perform a Windows or similar update that most often all of your programs are still in good operation?

    Your thoughts seem to...
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    The key to longer lasting systems is routing. If...

    The key to longer lasting systems is routing. If you are not employing routing in your building system the likely result is a system that will not last for a long time period or cost great amounts to...
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    Greetings Osiyo, I find your reasoning valid....

    Greetings Osiyo,

    I find your reasoning valid. I would like to possibly add some thought to the discussion.

    There is a premise that methods need to be employed that cover IP based communication,...
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    Greetings StuntMonkeh, There is always...

    Greetings StuntMonkeh,

    There is always initiatives on ways to interact with control systems. The IEC maintains a standard programming interface 61131. This standard allowed developers to make...
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    Assembling your first two points the conclusion I...

    Assembling your first two points the conclusion I derive is that inexperienced individuals will latch onto a controller line and eventually become proficient and therefore prefer that line.

    I...
  22. Greetings Frozenlock, A very nice effort on...

    Greetings Frozenlock,

    A very nice effort on the BACnet server.
    To put a torch on the subject of open programming perhaps a brief examination of IEC is in order. IEC 61131 have indeed promoted...
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    I still do not come to the same conclusion that...

    I still do not come to the same conclusion that you do here in any manner. Philips has Teletrol and Philips has their own arrangements on lighting control. Wouldn't it make sense to use the partners...
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    Greetings to you steves4. Could you explain your...

    Greetings to you steves4. Could you explain your conclusion further?

    In the EU and UK Philips has control of lighting systems, including partners for product.
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    Greetings Mike, What is the status of the...

    Greetings Mike,

    What is the status of the battery?
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    Greetings blabath. In regards to logic if I have...

    Greetings blabath. In regards to logic if I have taken years to refine my processes for control why is it you are entitled to something for which you did not pay for receiving? Shall you pay me a...
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    Greetings Orion242. I break my imposed ruling...

    Greetings Orion242. I break my imposed ruling here but I will respond. I want to assure you I have not utilised the word "critical". Therefore, there is no way I play semantics with a word. I leave...
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    Greetings to ControlMT. I would like to respond...

    Greetings to ControlMT. I would like to respond to this topic will confine my response to you. As such, my comments are directly solely to you out of a necessity.

    I would realise a boiler and...
  29. With products such as these the problems have a...

    With products such as these the problems have a tendency to be multiple. To start a manufacturer that cannot properly produce a communicating controller, but they desire they should manufacture and...
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    The NL220 tool is a very acceptable tool to use...

    The NL220 tool is a very acceptable tool to use with LNS, likely the most useful. If you open up the NL220 tool it has the pathway to the database when you start. In the Lonworks\bin folder run the...
  31. Greetings Asd;ljk, I think you will find the...

    Greetings Asd;ljk, I think you will find the answer to some of the things Tridium was missing in this update they call 3.7.
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    I do not think there is an issue with the...

    I do not think there is an issue with the specification thereof. I think the greater issue is that the individual wants to use a product that does not meet the specification in the manner of...
  33. There is no such thing as SNVT_binary in the...

    There is no such thing as SNVT_binary in the LonTalk protocol. There is a structured SNVT called SNVT_switch which contains a value and a state. As the manufacturer notes, this is clever as a...
  34. Jeremy, my term for your user is the social...

    Jeremy, my term for your user is the social element, which encompasses more than the end user. I am not remiss in this consideration as you suggest. I disagree with your assessment that if a system...
  35. Greetings to you Digo. Perhaps you could answer...

    Greetings to you Digo. Perhaps you could answer the question of whether the root user is accessible other than from the console? As a second can you provide the RSA key documentation? Whilst you do...
  36. There is an inherent problem with systems that...

    There is an inherent problem with systems that simply rely on password authentication for their security model. This company is not alone in their insufficient security model.

    If an unwanted...
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    What type of control systems do others install if...

    What type of control systems do others install if this system is not complex? A point the developer made that is very important is that the control system can be modified dynamically at runtime.
    ...
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    If you imply that Siemens, Honeywell, or Tridium...

    If you imply that Siemens, Honeywell, or Tridium is to be your system I would disagree with your thought process. Those are manufacturers of control products, which may not have anything to do with...
  39. It appears that the manufacturer's device itself...

    It appears that the manufacturer's device itself is a large part of the problem.

    "The test procedures were modified to identify a specific Modbus communication problem, the same hardware issue...
  40. I would suggest an examination of the patents...

    I would suggest an examination of the patents that Honeywell is making accusation.

    U.S. Patent No. 7,634,504 - this patent was filed in 2006 (issued 2009) and covers displaying grammatically...
  41. It was stated that most control firms are small...

    It was stated that most control firms are small and do not have resources. Does this mean that control firms should not invest in tools and processes to identify issues with products or...
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    The thread starter is utilising a multi-port...

    The thread starter is utilising a multi-port router LON/IP. This means very high throughput to a single destination directly routed. So, you can go over the building network or through a WAN across...
  43. Hello crab master, thank you for the salutation....

    Hello crab master, thank you for the salutation. I do not represent this product line. Bob_Scheel indicated originally that quantifying temperature, humidity and CO2 was a meaningless sales item....
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    Hello Edaoura, I do not understand why you do...

    Hello Edaoura,

    I do not understand why you do not isolate the primitive bacnet PTP with a dedicated gateway and proceed to a more modern solution.

    These gateways accomplish bringing Modbus...
  45. Tenants know more than heat and cold. The problem...

    Tenants know more than heat and cold. The problem is you only provide control of heat and cold.
  46. Greetings Bob_Scheel, In examination of the chart...

    Greetings Bob_Scheel, In examination of the chart you can see two measured variables, temperature and moisture. Unless offices are completely separated an equal number of temperature and humidity...
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    I like this response. Last year I attended a...

    I like this response. Last year I attended a program discussing completely different ways to approach building design and control systems within them.

    Some get caught in mundane considerations of...
  48. There are some things on this site that merit...

    There are some things on this site that merit consideration. This would be one of those topics. It would be easy to declare this specification the result of some salesman and dismiss any merit of...
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