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    Two outside. One to take in air. Another to...

    Two outside. One to take in air. Another to release air.
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    OK. I went back and checked the temps between...

    OK. I went back and checked the temps between Nov. 24th and Dec. 29th for 2009 and 2010. The average temperature in 2009 was 32.1 degrees and the average in 2010 was 27.0 degrees. The model of the...
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    Home built in 1966. Furnace from 1966 (60%...

    Home built in 1966.
    Furnace from 1966 (60% efficient).
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    New furnace, but hardly any savings.

    In 2010, I had some pros install a Lennox G61MP (95% efficient) to replace an old Lennox 60% efficient furnace. It seems like the house stays a little cooler than normal with the heat, but it was...
  5. Savings Experiment: Cooling your home for less is a breeze

    I saw this today and thought you guys might like to see it.
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    Seriously, Twilli, what are you using? I'm in...

    Seriously, Twilli, what are you using? I'm in the 313 and I'd really like to know what a 419er is using because we see the same crap weather. It's raining right now over here.
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    HVAC Pros, sound off!

    HVAC Professionals, please let us know what brand/model of furnace & AC you have. Do you have zoning? What extras have you included for yourself? What brand/model thermostat are you using? Are...
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    I know what it is.....Garbage.

    I know what it is.....Garbage.
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    If that's true, then you can save more by getting...

    If that's true, then you can save more by getting the equivalent Century or ComfortAire furnace. They're the exact same thing as the Ruud/Rheem. They're made in the same factory. Look into it.
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    Let me ask you: do you like the heat/ac in the...

    Let me ask you: do you like the heat/ac in the house? What's bad about your furnace/AC?
  11. I'm not a pro, but a family friend of mine is. ...

    I'm not a pro, but a family friend of mine is. He said that though he does do a manual J, a little oversizing isn't bad. For instance, in Michigan, the winters are more harsh and older Detroit...
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    Video Request

    I'd like a see a newer Goodman GMVC video posted online. Further, if you someone could post one for a newer AC, that would be great as well. I'm about to buy a house this year and the first thing...
  13. You've done a great job. What models are the...

    You've done a great job. What models are the furnace and AC? Also, I'd like to know if you have any video you can post on youtube. There's a gang load of Goodman bashing videos on there that show...
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    Bring someone in from Windsor. They'll take care...

    Bring someone in from Windsor. They'll take care of you.
  15. The way I see it, there shouldn't be anything...

    The way I see it, there shouldn't be anything wrong with using Trane. My mother has a house that's had a Lennox in it since the 60's. Last year the blower motor finally went out and this year the...
  16. I'm not a pro, but I've been here long enough to...

    I'm not a pro, but I've been here long enough to know that the problems don't usually stem from the manufacturer, they usually stem from the installer. The install is key. I've also heard a lot...
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    Blower Motor Energy Usage.

    I know about how an ECM variaable speed blower motor will use about the same amount of energy as a 100 watt light bulb. I'd like to know how much energy the normal blower motors use. I have a new...
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    Dude, find a competent dealer who can get a hold...

    Dude, find a competent dealer who can get a hold of ComfortAire or Century brand furnaces. They're nothing more than a Rheem/Ruud and you'll save money. That's just my take on it. We have a new...
  19. That Twilli guy is in Toledo. Maybe he can make...

    That Twilli guy is in Toledo. Maybe he can make a trip. He seems to be respected in these forums.
    OR
    You can go with the guys at Airtronic in Redford, MI. I think their number is (313) 537-8111....
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    Our GlowCore AC still works fine: ...

    Our GlowCore AC still works fine:

    http://imgur.com/NX0Sn.jpg


    Twilli3967 knows his stuff. Twilli, have you looked into Heat Controller Products? They're nothing more than Rheem/Ruud furnaces...
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    I think he should try General Aire. They're...

    I think he should try General Aire. They're pretty good.
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    OK. Here are the numbers. This is only the ...

    OK. Here are the numbers. This is only the "Gas recovery" part of the bill.

    December Bill: 250 CCF @ .78
    March Bill: 148 CCF @ .755

    So I ended up knocking 40% off of my gas bill, but keep...
  23. Heck, it doesn't do anything for the ones that...

    Heck, it doesn't do anything for the ones that are still open. I was shopping for a contractor and I told one company to call me back. I found out they had an F BBB rating, so I told them and they...
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    I am saving money. On average, we were paying...

    I am saving money. On average, we were paying about $315+/month for gas. I had the furnace installed mid March and the last few days in March were fair weather. For the month of March, we're...
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    OK, well that's out the window. I was able to...

    OK, well that's out the window. I was able to get a RTH7600D for a great price because they mistagged the item at home depot. I won't give the exact price, but it was at least 10% off the lowest...
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    Arg. Upon further investigation, I found that I...

    Arg. Upon further investigation, I found that I have a G61MP and not a G61MPV. I thought I signed for the MPV, but I guess not after looking at the contract. It's not that big of a deal to me,...
  27. Mind telling me how much you spend on the gas...

    Mind telling me how much you spend on the gas bill a month? I just got a G61MP-60C-111. I thought I had the MPV, but I guess not. It's not that big of a deal to me.
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    New info

    So, after further discussion, the installer said they'll do the install of the thermostat for free, but we have to buy the thermostat. This seems fair to me. I've looked at the Vision Pro IAQ, but...
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    2-3 years down the road, I'll probably buy my mom...

    2-3 years down the road, I'll probably buy my mom a new AC, so the coil would be replaced at that time. I don't expect the current one to last forever. However, the GlowCore (Goodman) AC still...
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    Correct. I have the 111.

    Correct. I have the 111.
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    The G61MPV is not 94%, it's 95% now. I just got...

    The G61MPV is not 94%, it's 95% now. I just got one and it qualifies for the tax credit. I like the Lennox, but you should concern yourself more with the person installing the furnace. It makes a...
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    So my mom spoke with a gentleman at the company...

    So my mom spoke with a gentleman at the company and he said he'll install any multi-stage Honeywell thermostat at no additional cost. These guys are great. I asked for the Vision PRO IAQ. I also...
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    What are some of these advantages?

    What are some of these advantages?
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    Looks like the thermostat will be changed pretty soon.

    After letting my mom know about the thermostat, she really wants the multi-stage thermostat. Let's hope it really makes a difference for us. And, she hates the 5-2 thermostats. We're looking at...
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    Here are the pics I said I'd supply.

    The original furnace (an old Lennox furnace from the 60s or 70s.):
    http://imgur.com/51WtK.jpg
    The original AC coil (Not leaking, so it'll be reused.):
    http://imgur.com/bznXQ.jpg
    New Lennox...
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    No worries. I'll still be able to get more out...

    No worries. I'll still be able to get more out of the furnace with a multi-staged thermostat in the future. Right now, I'm going to see how well this one fairs.
    I bought the furnace for my mom and...
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    Nope. I think this is a single stage Thermostat....

    Nope. I think this is a single stage Thermostat. However, When I paint the walls, I may switch to a multistaged thermostat.
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    No questions. Just answers. I'm doing this so...

    No questions. Just answers. I'm doing this so others know a little more about the furnace. It kinda sucks when you research or just plain google a furnace and you find no info.


    Also, everyone...
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    Lennox G61MPV

    OK. So after months of asking about the "best" furnace, I've finally moved forward and bought a Lennox G61MPV to replace our old Lennox furnace from the 60s. I will post a full review after a month...
  40. Understood. Thanks for the advice. I appreciate...

    Understood. Thanks for the advice. I appreciate you for your input.
  41. Who said I'm scrounging? I'm asking about the...

    Who said I'm scrounging? I'm asking about the tonnage. There's nothing wrong with this AC. It's been reliable and it performs very well. I have no real reason to swap out the AC. Now, the...
  42. Well, here are pictures anyway:

    Also, here's an example of our weather in Michigan today. All the snow came over 14 hrs.

    http://imgur.com/NX0Sn.jpg


    http://imgur.com/R5jng.jpg
  43. Can Anyone Eyeball the Tonnage of My old Goodman AC?

    I can provide pics if need be. I have an older Goodman AC (it's actually reliable) under the name Glow Core. The problem here is I don't know the tonnage of this AC and one of the HVAC pros said he...
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    Oops...Change of heart.

    I just found out that on top of the government Tax rebate, Lennox is doing their own rebate of up to $1000. I think that will save me a lot. I'd expect that will save me a lot. Like I said, I've...
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    Thermostat

    Should I need a different themostat for a 2-stage furnace? My mom's current Lennox is about 30-40 years old.
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    Furnace noise level video

    Could any of you pros point me to some videos that demonstrate the quietness of some brand's furnaces? I've seen a few on youtube. The Trane XV95 seems to be a pretty quiet furnace. Goodman ACs...
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    Trane XV95 vs. Ruud RGRM

    After the mass amount of bashing on Lennox for the price of their parts, I've decided to go with Ruud/Rheem or Trane/American Standard. I'd like a 95% efficiency, 2-stage heat, variable speed motor...
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    There you have it then. I was looking into...

    There you have it then. I was looking into getting a 2-stage variable speed furnace. If it's not Rheem's variable speed blower motor, then there's no point in dealing with a Century then, right?
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    Here's an image comparison.

    Heat Controller (Century)
    http://imgur.com/e3CsA.jpg

    Rheem
    http://imgur.com/loB9k.jpg
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    Is Heat Controller Really a Rheem?

    So I contacted Heat Controller about their brand to inquire as to if their Century furnaces have the exact same internals as Rheem/Ruud products.

    Their Response:
    "Heat Controller owns the Century...
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