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    The cleaneffects/accuclean can be mounted to a...

    The cleaneffects/accuclean can be mounted to a carrier furnace, but I had to get directions from members here on how to do it as my contractor couldnt figure it out. Then it took them several tries...
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    Thanks Dash, I'll get some pictures and draw some...

    Thanks Dash, I'll get some pictures and draw some diagrams of the ducts this weekend and get the model numbers.

    Its an infinity 80% variable speed four ton unit with a performance 14 seer a/c unit...
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    Thanks for the info green jumper. I'm going to...

    Thanks for the info green jumper. I'm going to call enalysis again tomorrow or monday when I get a chance, and then holler at pg&e if that doesnt work.
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    Yeah, i'm not in a litigious mood, but I'd like...

    Yeah, i'm not in a litigious mood, but I'd like my money. I'm up to my ears in alligators right now but as soon as I get some time I'll call the rebate processor and pg&e and try to become a large...
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    I've had a lot of tussles with this contractor,...

    I've had a lot of tussles with this contractor, as described in another thread. We've basically just gotten past calling each others mothers a lot of names and moved on to less constructive...
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    Yeah mine plugs into an outlet. About all you...

    Yeah mine plugs into an outlet. About all you can do is have an electrician come put in a receptacle and a plug. The kill-a-watt gives a lot of interesting info. You can leave it plugged in for a...
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    That could be. I note a change in the pitch (to...

    That could be. I note a change in the pitch (to louder and more whistly) when I change it from 1400 to 1600. There was a 5 ton payne furnace in there before and I dont know how many cfm/ton is was...
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    Good info, thanks. Unfortunately I spent a LOT...

    Good info, thanks. Unfortunately I spent a LOT on the duct sealing and was expecting that $600 back to comp me for it in part. I'd have done it regardless of the rebate, but I have to say its a bit...
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    Okay, I did some extra homework, still...

    Okay, I did some extra homework, still interesting results.

    I pulled the paper filter cartridge out of the infinity air cleaner and re-ran some tests. I left the safety grid and the charging wire...
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    Man, you guys are FULL of sunshine ;) The...

    Man, you guys are FULL of sunshine ;)

    The contractor had the capability to test the ducts, said they were one of the few companies that did. When they did the test it was a 25% loss, and that was...
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    California Duct Sealing Incentive

    I'm a little confused about yet another issue with my installing contractor, could use a little help from someone who does California installs and is familiar with the duct sealing rebate from PG&E....
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    Yeah, I figured the trip charge might be...

    Yeah, I figured the trip charge might be excessive and bought an extra case of beer.

    Dash...I had been thinking the same thing about pulling the filters and seeing what the difference would be. ...
  13. Thread: small attic fan

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    There are a couple of companies making similar...

    There are a couple of companies making similar products to the HV series, but I'd probably go for an HV1000 if you've been satisfied with the HV-700.

    I have an HV1600 and its okay. Pretty low...
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    When will you be by? I have beer. I'll be...

    When will you be by?

    I have beer.

    I'll be here all day!

    ;)
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    Doesnt the infinity control give a warning if the...

    Doesnt the infinity control give a warning if the SP goes over 1?
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    Heres some data I collected this morning. Pretty...

    Heres some data I collected this morning. Pretty interesting.

    Speed CFM RPM SP Watts cfm/rpm sp/cfm Watts/cfm Watts/rpm
    Low 597 615 0.26 97 0.97 0.16 0.16 0.16
    Med ...
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    Nope, I never touched the unit...did it from the...

    Nope, I never touched the unit...did it from the control inside.

    Not much of a chance of changing the ductwork. The house is built into a hill. The garage is in front and sort of a "first...
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    I have a killawatt, so I can measure the wattage...

    I have a killawatt, so I can measure the wattage draw of the motor in both modes. Of course the 1600cfm rate will be taking more since its spinning the fan at a higher rpm rate. But I can see if...
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    Thats correct. The airflow, rpm and static...

    Thats correct. The airflow, rpm and static pressure are from the extra advanced setup mode on the infinity control.
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    I put it back to the comfort setting (1400 cfm)...

    I put it back to the comfort setting (1400 cfm) and its back to .95.

    So either the infinity control doesnt accurately calculate static pressure, or theres something strange about this I dont...
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    All I did was change the setting on the thermo,...

    All I did was change the setting on the thermo, so I dont think anything got out of the way.

    Coil wise, our area humidity has been running around 35-38% (california central valley near sacramento)...
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    Static pressure question

    I thought this was interesting...

    Infinity four ton furnace and performance air conditioner. Generally circuitous ducting.

    With the infinity control on the "comfort" setting, getting 1400cfm,...
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    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005TPUZ ...

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00005TPUZ

    http://www.amazon.com/Teamstrap-Moving-Strap/dp/B000UUX7VO
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    Powered Attic Ventilator. And no, thats...

    Powered Attic Ventilator.

    And no, thats generally going to be a bad idea. You're going to get hot dusty attic air forced down into the home.
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    Old system: Payne 70% with a single stage/single...

    Old system: Payne 70% with a single stage/single speed motor and a thermo set to run the fan for 10 minutes an hour to circulate the air.

    New system: Carrier infinity 80% 2 stage with variable...
  26. Thread: EAC revisited

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    Maybe. The code inspector never looked at the...

    Maybe. The code inspector never looked at the outdoor unit. I left the garage door open and the paperwork next to the furnace so I wouldnt have to look for it when he got there to do the final...
  27. Thread: EAC revisited

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    I'm ready to go postal. After disappearing for...

    I'm ready to go postal.

    After disappearing for a week and a half, the owner who had agreed to change the air cleaner out for a carrier and extend the warranty to ten years tells me he'll do one or...
  28. Thread: EAC revisited

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    Thanks for the tips. I've learned a lot here,...

    Thanks for the tips. I've learned a lot here, which hasnt been a good thing for this installer.

    The company's been in business since 1963 and is a local "fixture". Second generation owner, son...
  29. Thread: EAC revisited

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    So heres where we are now. The install manager...

    So heres where we are now.

    The install manager came out with a relay, wired it in and smoked it because it was a 24v, not a 115v. Went back to the shop and got another one. Didnt work. He didnt...
  30. Thread: The big mystery...

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    Dont even own the house anymore. Got it cheap,...

    Dont even own the house anymore. Got it cheap, did some work on it and made some good money selling it a few years later. Just thought it was an interesting mystery and maybe someone would come up...
  31. Thread: The big mystery...

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    The big mystery...

    Heres a good "what do you think happened here...?"

    I bought a three year old house a few years back. 1800 square foot single story, master bedroom on the left, then living/dining/kitchen in the...
  32. Thread: EAC revisited

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    The bushes are a little bit of an optical...

    The bushes are a little bit of an optical illusion. They're at least 15" away from the side of the unit in front and about 20" on the left side. I told the installer I'd cut them down or dig them...
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    Anything specific I can get after the install...

    Anything specific I can get after the install manager about when he's here on monday?

    Here's some shots of the outdoor unit. I put in an arrow pointing to where the concrete ends. I pushed the...
  34. Thread: EAC revisited

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    Good news is the install manager is coming out...

    Good news is the install manager is coming out monday to implement Marks relay suggestion.

    Bad news is I figured out why the a/c unit is set hanging off the edge of the old slab...when they...
  35. Yes, the air temps are definitely more balanced. ...

    Yes, the air temps are definitely more balanced. That was one of the three major things I wanted to address with the install. We had temps 8-10 degrees different between the warmest and coolest...
  36. They're insulated 8R flexi duct. Not sure I'd...

    They're insulated 8R flexi duct. Not sure I'd feel anything on them one way or the other.

    But that does raise an interesting point. I hadnt thought that there'd be enough heat loss to make a two...
  37. Thread: EAC revisited

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    Hmm, so the salesman called and basically implied...

    Hmm, so the salesman called and basically implied that this is all my fault for asking for the infinity stat instead of the old one we had already on the wall like he originally quoted. Seems they...
  38. The old furnace was either a 65 or 70% payne...

    The old furnace was either a 65 or 70% payne unit...so it should be better than that.



    Given the rest of the issues I had, probably a bad assumption. They put the dang flue on backwards fer...
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    Where's it mounted? Inside the house or outside...

    Where's it mounted? Inside the house or outside somewhere? Whats the intake venting look like?

    Is this just a problem with the shower or with any h/w usage?
  40. One guy measured all the rooms and did a 20...

    One guy measured all the rooms and did a 20 minute calc on a piece of paper at the dining room table. Nobody else measured, just gave me the old "I know what to put in these types of homes". ...
  41. I just made the same decision last month; we live...

    I just made the same decision last month; we live down near Sacramento. Hotter here in the summer but about the same winter temps. The 90+ furnace would have cost a good bit more and would have...
  42. Thread: EAC revisited

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    Thanks Mark, that gives me a couple of ways to...

    Thanks Mark, that gives me a couple of ways to get the cleaner to work right.

    Hetrola - None of the guys who came out to look at this were going to remove the concrete. A couple said they'd pour...
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    It all makes perfect sense to me. The internet...

    It all makes perfect sense to me.

    The internet is just a series of tubes, and so is an hvac system...
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    Not sure what kind of a can of worms this would...

    Not sure what kind of a can of worms this would be, but couldnt you use some sort of distributed hybrid system? Hook up some basic high efficiency ventilating fans to the duct to maintain constant...
  45. Thread: EAC revisited

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    Mark - I think the problem is that on the...

    Mark - I think the problem is that on the infinity furnace, when the infinity control is in use it communicates therm<->furnace<->AC with a four wire serial bus communication system and the usual...
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    Thanks for the response! Cool. I hadnt seen...

    Thanks for the response!

    Cool. I hadnt seen the sail switch before. Does that output 24v? Whats the life span of the switch?

    The coil is an ADP, not a carrier. They just gave me model...
  47. Thread: EAC revisited

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    EAC revisited

    I posted last month about a partially botched install of a carrier infinity system with a cleaneffects electronic air cleaner.

    I've got two primary remaining issues with the install and would like...
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    My point wasnt with regards to the cost of...

    My point wasnt with regards to the cost of electricity vs other fuels, but for the OP's original question of 14 vs 16 seer. If electricity doubles or triples during the life of the unit, and he...
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    Could be a couple of things. A sudden drop in...

    Could be a couple of things. A sudden drop in water pressure or gas pressure is most likely.

    The rinnai wants a certain water pressure level to run, could be your supply has erratic pressure and...
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    You guys also need to factor in the future costs...

    You guys also need to factor in the future costs of energy, not todays cost.

    Projected over time the rise in electricity costs may make an up front investment in better equipment seem like a...
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