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But you will have 10x the amount of other problems.

Every single time.

You’ll find maybe one in ten people actually appreciate your skills and knowledge, the other nine just want a cheap price.

You’re only screwing yourself by not giving it to...

Oh I like this thread…

Some of the issues I am facing…

Procurement of equipment. Most everything in the commercial/industrial market is a minimum of 14 weeks out, some larger stuff is 40 weeks....

I was fired in a week once.

Back in the 90’s before GPS on vans I worked for a residential shop that wanted me to call before I left the house in the morning and leave a message on the answering...

I'd like to see that at night, through a thermal scope. I bet it looks pretty wild.

At some point you will be a liability to yourself and those around you.

Driving, playing with electrical, making decisions, stress, etc...

The risk is not worth the money. 12hrs will burn out...

We call them "Apprentices"

Anyone who has worked around pool equipment knows what the chlorine gasses and vapors do to metals.

You also know how cheap water parks and hotels are when it comes to PM's and replacements.
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My condolences to his family and friends.

He was a huge asset to this site.

Thanks for everything Jim.

I wonder if the OP is still working with no commissions?

No more drive-thu’s if you have a ladder rack.

Ask me how I know. :censored:

I just crossed my legs thinking about that.

Ouch.

If you have stones in your water, you better solve that issue first.

Listen to this man.

Are you in an actual apprenticeship?

You owe me a keyboard for the beer that just came out my nose.

Da fuq is a YVAA?

Neither one of which are in your pictures.

No, those are Mueller ball valves that the previous installer tried to pass off as balancing valves by installing Pete’s Plugs and some kind of bypass loop.

Never use ball valves in an attempt to...

This area’s chiller work is largely dominated by a few companies and it’s not something you just buy into.

I’m not trying to talk you out of this decision, but those are the facts.

In this...

Columbus

Needs balancing valves.

Kind of important in that system.

Where in Ohio?

There is a new school opening there soon.

Wow, that thing is packed to the gills.

The mechanics house is the worst kept house on the block.

Who wants to come home and deal with that crap?

Ain't nobody got time for that.

Apply directly to a union contractor.

They will introduce you to the hall.

A case of scotch to the apprenticeship director can get things done.

I kid I kid.

I went to BOCES when I lived in NY. Even back then the term “BOCE” was derogatory, it was meant as “retarded”. It was used to pick on kids who went to the school.

HS trade classes were cut in...

Up ahead in the distance
I saw the supply house light
My head grew heavy, and my sight grew dim
I had one more emergency call for the night

So you’re getting out of HVAC service to go into .gov HVAC service?

It’s like the hotel California... You can check out anytime you want, but you can never leave.

$150k to $175k and a $30k sign on bonus?
Tools paid for?

Is this a 40hr/5 day a week position?

Residential installs?

What does a commercial/industrial tech position pay?

If you ever get to the central Ohio area, dinner and drinks are on me.

Congrats on retirement Dad.

I’m in the same boat. It is scary stuff for sure.

At least you’re working bud, I’ll trade you.

I hope this passes quick for everyone.

I foresee some hard times ahead for all of us.

Three weeks ago if you told me this would happen, I would have laughed at you. I’m not laughing anymore.

With the mild winter we had, the in between seasons, and now this virus our shop is getting hit hard.

We have a cushion but that won’t last long with so little work coming in.

Lots of guy are down to “sweeping the shop” because of how many businesses are closed. Homeowners are not calling. The phones are dead.

His this crisis cost you your job yet? With the service...

You should have taken the job.

Two residential side jobs a year and you would have been even, two more and you could be $5-10k ahead.

How’s your current retirement looking? Do you have one?
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Is there a reason you cannot edit your posts or threads after a certain time period?

I wanted to update a thread title to reflect the fact that a problem was solved to let the members who helped...

Many thank to Roadgear16...

We were able to get a copy of the Trane TU T&B software from our rep.

Turned out to be an easy fix, box wasn’t hitting its minimum airflow for heating. Made the...

Thank you. Email sent to our inside sales rep. We’ll see what he can dig up.

You’re right.

We could easily and cheaply swap it out with something like a Prolon VAV controller and t-stat for a fraction of the price of a bacnet router.

Although a nice bacnet router is a...

Jim,

Please PM me and let me know when you will doing a commercial class in the central Ohio area. I have four of us that will attend ASAP.

Any suggestions on a good universal router?

Thanks all. Don’t really need to make changes, just try and resolve the alarm.

May try the bacnet route to see what’s up.

I am guessing it’s a discharge air temp sensor or airflow issue.
...

How much are we talking?

I have a Trane stand alone vav box that we got a call for no heat on yesterday.

This building doesn’t have a front end to control anything, no laptop with software, etc...

It’s up to me to...

We use:

Viper alarm system with remote start, phone app, and GPS
Cargo lock deadbolt system
Slick locks hokey puck system
Hardwired GPS

Have fun getting in our vans.

I hate cheap people. I hate them as customers, I hate them as bosses, I hate them as human beings.

I thought you were going to say "5:30pm, when I crack my first beer"

That's my magical time.