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  1. Do they do any chiller or boiler service?

    Do they do any chiller or boiler service?
  2. Yes, I understand the cost-of-living difference....

    Yes, I understand the cost-of-living difference. There's much difference from Dallas to Chicago.
    $40K is less than half of an HVACR (MES or BT-R) Journeyman in Chicago, that's not factoring in OT,...
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    I know this thread is old, but it contains a...

    I know this thread is old, but it contains a topic that I've recently discussed, the NSMA. Can this be moved to Job Discussion?
  4. Even more recent developments, it is w/absolute...

    Even more recent developments, it is w/absolute certainty that McQuay & the UA are negotiating a National agreement. :.02:
  5. Just got verification that Prem-Air has been...

    Just got verification that Prem-Air has been acquired by McQuay & are now McQuay Factory Service - NY. They're signatory to UA Local #638B. This makes @ least two McQuay Factory Service branches that...
  6. Actually I found a 2 Br condo in a high-rise...

    Actually I found a 2 Br condo in a high-rise along the Chicago River for $2000/mo. No it's not the Trump Plaza or anything like that! Anyways I couldn't find anything similar to that in Miami for...
  7. The NSMA reverts back to the Local agreement for...

    The NSMA reverts back to the Local agreement for starting wages & fringes of both the MES Foreman and Journeyman. :grin2: However the MES Serviceman & Tradesman are both scaled down in that...
  8. I work @ a small shop in Chicago. I was a Service...

    I work @ a small shop in Chicago. I was a Service Journeyman in another Local, but I agreed to a lower classification since I couldn't find work as a Journeyman. Not too bad as it was still a higher...
  9. Have any of you worked for both a Trane office & a Trane franchise?

    Have any of you worked for both a Trane office (now called Building Services branches) which are Trane Co. owned & a Trane franchise (used to be called Factory Authorized Service offices) not sure if...
  10. I looked @ the UA Local #725 signatories listing....

    I looked @ the UA Local #725 signatories listing. I didn't see McQuay on it, so the development must be real recent. I did see South Florida Trane on that list though. Are they a Trane Co. branch or...
  11. Are you in the Miami Pipe Trades Local?

    Are you in the Miami Pipe Trades Local?
  12. Hartford Compressors, a subsidiary of DB.

    Hartford Compressors, a subsidiary of DB.
  13. Do you mean a McQuay national agreement? Were...

    Do you mean a McQuay national agreement?
    Were those hermatic screws w/the discharge on top?
  14. I'm actually talking about Hitachi chillers, both...

    I'm actually talking about Hitachi chillers, both centrifugals & absorbers. Hitachi is real popular in Asia & South America. Real big in Brazil. Stateside we know about Trane, York & Carrier, even...
  15. Go straight to the shop. Most OEMs will hire off...

    Go straight to the shop. Most OEMs will hire off of the streets, if you're willing to be under the national CBA. Right-to-work or non-right-to-work shouldn't matter in the aspect of getting into a...
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    I remember when Honeywell went to using the...

    I remember when Honeywell went to using the Fasttool & GPS. The receiver was ginormous, some vans even had it on top of their ladder rack. This was in 2001 though.
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    Hussmann & Hill-Phoenix are commercial...

    Hussmann & Hill-Phoenix are commercial refrigeration OEMs that also run service. Don't know if there's any others.
    Source is a western states outfit. Their TX branches are a second go, they had...
  18. Well, McQuay in Albuquerque was 2 guys and they...

    Well, McQuay in Albuquerque was 2 guys and they handled all of NM & El Paso not sure where else in TX that they would go. Not much high-rises in Albuquerque & even less in El Paso. McQuay must like...
  19. On a different note, if you're a SMW HVAC Ducting...

    On a different note, if you're a SMW HVAC Ducting Installation Journeyman it's highly unlikely that you'd become a UA HVACR Journeyman when switching Unions. Even though both Unions represent...
  20. Is "McQuay" in Miami an actual "McQuay Factory...

    Is "McQuay" in Miami an actual "McQuay Factory Service" branch or are they an "Authorized McQuay Service Contractor"? If McQuay signs on as a national signatory like Carrier & Johnson Controls, it'll...
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    Hey, if you're UA HVACR service, chances are you...

    Hey, if you're UA HVACR service, chances are you that may be let go because of lack of work. A lot of people think lazy, fat guys keep job for decades in the Union. Hey, I've a newer guy that's one...
  22. You really think so? I'm talking about having the...

    You really think so? I'm talking about having the entire HVACR (Refrigerationfitting & HVACR Service) & Pipefitting from the Pipe Trades Union, we really have nothing to do w/plumbing or...
  23. I think the Commercial Service Tech will be by...

    I think the Commercial Service Tech will be by the firsts of April. The MES Serviceman is not a card, it's an NSMA classification. Some Locals do use that title too though. In 597, you'd probably be...
  24. 597's B-Card is approximately $33/hr. Our...

    597's B-Card is approximately $33/hr. Our proposed MES Serviceman would be around $35-36.
  25. I believe HVACR can have it's own Union. Right...

    I believe HVACR can have it's own Union. Right now, we have the majority in the Pipe Trades Union, then some in the Sheet Metal Works Union, a few (BAS Techs) in the Electricians Union, & even a...
  26. Did you mean that both Sheet Metal Works & Pipe...

    Did you mean that both Sheet Metal Works & Pipe Trades Locals in Chicago have HVAC service apprenticeships? If so, all that does is create problems in the field. Just look @ Cement Masons for...
  27. What do you guys know about Emcor - Chicago?

    What do you guys know about Emcor in Chicago f.k.a. Team Mechanical?
  28. Honestly if you're Sheet Metal Works - HVAC, but...

    Honestly if you're Sheet Metal Works - HVAC, but you're doing Pipe Trades - HVACR work, then you're going to fall out of favor w/the L#597 signatories.
    My shop wants to expand real soon into...
  29. In Albuquerque, I think only two non-union shops...

    In Albuquerque, I think only two non-union shops pay Union Service Journeyman wage equivalent, Trane Building Services & McQuay Factory Service. Both of these are OEMs though. Is it that bad where...
  30. That's a lot to take in. How do you keep track of...

    That's a lot to take in. How do you keep track of it all? I heard that New York Trane was an "Factory Authorized Service", then it became a Trane Co. outfit. Nevertheless NY Trane, now know as a...
  31. McQuay's official name change has to do w/the...

    McQuay's official name change has to do w/the fact that they were bought out by Daikin. The "McQuay Factory Service" is only in the U.S. & Canada. Their "Authorized McQuay Service Contractor" program...
  32. Ok, thank you for your input. I had looked into...

    Ok, thank you for your input. I had looked into possibly becoming an Authorized McQuay Service Contractor in the past, but Mcquay was asking for a percentage of all revenue, such as residential,...
  33. I don't work for the UA or any UA Local.

    I don't work for the UA or any UA Local.
  34. Maybe you can clarity something for me. I was...

    Maybe you can clarity something for me. I was told that there was an Authorized McQuay Service Contractor in the past in NYC. Since then McQuay Factory Service f.k.a. McQuay Service has opened a...
  35. Are you referring to Tri-State HVAC? They're an...

    Are you referring to Tri-State HVAC? They're an Authorized McQuay Service Contractor, not McQuay owned or operated. There's only about five contractors in the U.S. in that McQuay program. Your reply...
  36. Would you guys consider JLL & CBRE among these...

    Would you guys consider JLL & CBRE among these companies?
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    I never mentioned Wisconsin, it say Albuquerque...

    I never mentioned Wisconsin, it say Albuquerque for the example. Believe it or not, some Locals even use the title "Journeyman" in their residential classifications. Albuquerque is one of those...
  38. I don't know how many service Journeymen, but...

    I don't know how many service Journeymen, but there was a few out of work. As far as refrigeration pipefitting Journeymen, there was many. I felt unwelcomed by the Local. I went in as an off the...
  39. I'm a Journeyman in a different Local. I hired on...

    I'm a Journeyman in a different Local. I hired on with a R/LC Union shop, that works under the NSMA. I'm a Tradesman 3, 70% of a Journeyman. It was still a raise from my old Local's Journeyman wage....
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    I suggest if you enter the UA apprenticeship, try...

    I suggest if you enter the UA apprenticeship, try to go in as MES. Keep up on all local codes though. Become an excellent refrigeration piping installer. Just in case there isn't any repair &...
  41. Where is all the work for UA BT-Refrigeration?

    I tried coming as an HVACR MES Journeyman & I was told they weren't taking anybody. I even tried going in as an HVACR BT-R Journeyman & that was even worse, I was told that construction is very low....
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    In the last three markets that I've been in, it...

    In the last three markets that I've been in, it seems hard for a R/LC tech to get above C-Card or its non-union equivalent as an hourly pay. I guess top pay would have to be commission based. Is...
  43. I started this thread to see if anything positive...

    I started this thread to see if anything positive can be said about directly working for any of these type of companies.
    As for HVAC management companies, which don't self-perform or don't...
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    That's what I meant by my comment.

    That's what I meant by my comment.
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    Big difference between charging a home-owner 8...

    Big difference between charging a home-owner 8 hrs to repair their unitary split system a.c. & charging a hospital 8 hrs to repair their engineered chiller system though!
  46. There's a guy defending both Service Expert &...

    There's a guy defending both Service Expert & LNAS, which are coincidently both Lennox. Sounds like a Lennox corporate guy to me. :.02:
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    A selling service person or a servicing sales...

    A selling service person or a servicing sales person.
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    What is a top residential tech? How complex can 5...

    What is a top residential tech? How complex can 5 ton, single phase unitary equipment get!
  49. Does anyone like working for any of these "national" light commercial companies?

    Is anyone happy working @ Lennox NAS, MetroTech, Nextech, etc., that specialize in retail?
  50. Thread: Lennox NAS

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    Is NexTech/CMS/EFS all the same corporation?

    Is NexTech/CMS/EFS all the same corporation?
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