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    Well two months later an update on my problem...

    Well two months later an update on my problem heatpump. Goodman had a troubleshooter on the phone and we remeasured the static pressures under her guiedence with a new instrument and a different...
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    Yeah - ok makes sense - but I just have to go...

    Yeah - ok makes sense - but I just have to go with what the testers tell me and the papers the installer gives me and see what Goodman finally says, since I'm not actually doing any of the tests....
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    Toocool and hvacvegas - you both need to read the...

    Toocool and hvacvegas - you both need to read the earlier posts and then your replies will be more pertinent. hvacvegas - do some homework on the various govt. programs and you will be able to better...
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    The equiptment was purchased from Thermal Supply...

    The equiptment was purchased from Thermal Supply , in Medford , Or. I'm confused again - do the static pressures and cfms show an air flow problem?
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    CRMONT - Equipt. registered july of 2010. This...

    CRMONT - Equipt. registered july of 2010. This AHRI cert. has a date of 7/26/2010. Is that considered old enough to be obsolete?
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    FREONRICK I know it is a copeland scroll...

    FREONRICK I know it is a copeland scroll compressor but that is all - also a coil problem is possible as the system has never worked. THPRE
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    Goodman says they have no field rep. in this...

    Goodman says they have no field rep. in this area. I have been waiting 6 days since giving them the numbers they wanted. Called my installer today - he called them -- we are still waiting. "All good...
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    TOOCOOL -WHO DID NOT DO WELL IN SCHOOL- YOUR...

    TOOCOOL -WHO DID NOT DO WELL IN SCHOOL- YOUR ANSWERS HAVE BEEN THE LEAST INFORMATIVE AND YOUR SUPPOSITIONS ARE ALL WRONG. AN EASY CURE IS TO JUST GO AWAY. THANKS THPRE. To the rest of you thanks for...
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    YEAH TOOCOOL I HAVE CAP LOCKS ON ALL DAY ON MY...

    YEAH TOOCOOL I HAVE CAP LOCKS ON ALL DAY ON MY WORK ORDERS AND SOMETIMES I AM TOO BUSY OR TOO LAZY TO TAKE THEM OFF. BUT THANKS A LOT FOR YOUR help.
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    I TRIED AND COULD NOT VERIFY IT EITHER BUT I DO...

    I TRIED AND COULD NOT VERIFY IT EITHER BUT I DO NOT KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS SO IT MAY NOT COUNT.
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    SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU HAVE THE NUMBER...

    SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? YOU HAVE THE NUMBER CORRECT. WHAT I HAVE IS A COPY OF A FAXED CERTIFICATE. COULD THEY HAVE CHANGED SOMETHING AFTER SENDING THIS COPY? AT THE BOTTOM THERE IS A CERTIFICATE...
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    WHICH NUMBER? THE CERTIFICATION REFERENCE NUMBER?...

    WHICH NUMBER? THE CERTIFICATION REFERENCE NUMBER? IT JUST CAME FROM A COPY OF A PAGE FROM MY INSTALLER.
    THE NUMBER I SENT TO GOODMAN FOR WARRANTY REGISTRATION WAS
    HEAT PUMP - SSZ 160481AC
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    YEAH --- I'M REFLECTING ON WHY I HAVE TO FIGURE...

    YEAH --- I'M REFLECTING ON WHY I HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT INSTEAD OF SOMEONE ELSE --YOU KNOW LIKE SOMEONE I PAID TO DO THE JOB OR SUPPLY THE PARTS!
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    AHRI CERT. NUMBER - 1047241 OUTDOOR SSZ160481A...

    AHRI CERT. NUMBER - 1047241
    OUTDOOR SSZ160481A
    INDOOR CA F4860 6A + MBE2000-1 +TXV
    ACTUAL RECIEPT FROM MY CONTRACTOR
    GOODMAN 16 SEER SSZ16048
    AIR HANDLER MBVC2000
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    Actually on reflection -- too much water flow...

    Actually on reflection -- too much water flow would be more like too much refergerant flow which is controlled by the tx valve. I have never heard of too much air flow causing a lack of heat transfer.
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    Yes if the system worked without the filter and...

    Yes if the system worked without the filter and not with the filter then the readings with and without would be pertinent. But this system does not work either way and in fact will not work with the...
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    That measurement was through the door over the...

    That measurement was through the door over the air filter with the filter removed and max because the outside air vent through the roof was closed - reading was lower with the vent open. Supply side...
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    CRMONT; I am sorry about the pictures. The tx...

    CRMONT; I am sorry about the pictures. The tx valve does fit in the cabinet and is normally closed and out of sight. The air handler is not square , it is 24 3/4 by 21 1/2 so it would be noticable if...
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    VSTEC; I was not very specific on the door bit....

    VSTEC; I was not very specific on the door bit. Picture a rectangular room with a door at each end and the air handler in an inclosure on one side. One door to the outside and one door to the inside...
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    I am already paying out for labor for all the...

    I am already paying out for labor for all the testing and checking , I would be happy enough to pay labor to have it fixed. Maybe Goodman was just saying they would only gaurantee labor with the...
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    The inside tx valve has been replaced twice and...

    The inside tx valve has been replaced twice and the outside one once.Also the drier but not the reciever. I think the suction was at 180 but I was fixated on the 610 high side. None of the changes to...
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    Gary - I have had supposed experts out -- I...

    Gary - I have had supposed experts out -- I should not say supposed - they impressed me with their knowledge and equiptment. The problem was that Goodman would not discuss much with anyone except the...
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    Yeah pictures are hard -- not enough room. I...

    Yeah pictures are hard -- not enough room. I think think there are no doors on the side facing the room. A load calculation was done and 4 ton recomended. Actually 4 1/2 ton but I guess no such thing...
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    So do you think I need a smaller air handler?...

    So do you think I need a smaller air handler? That would lower the static even below the .3 total I have now. What would that do to the high side pressures? Then would I need a smaller outside unit...
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    Coil placement. The coil is definately in the top...

    Coil placement. The coil is definately in the top cabinet - and I feel fins like when I reach in there but I have not gotten a mirror to actually look at the coil. It feels like the top of an "a"...
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    SO i'M CONFUSED - I SHOULD HAVE HIGH STATIC...

    SO i'M CONFUSED - I SHOULD HAVE HIGH STATIC PRESSURE INSTEAD OF LOW? HOW WOULD THIS AFFECT THE HEAD PRESSURE? ANOTHER TECH TOLD ME THE STATIC PRESSURES WERE VERY LOW?
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    You are exactly right. only the detachable blower...

    You are exactly right. only the detachable blower is turned upside down.
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    The original electric heater had a comparable...

    The original electric heater had a comparable sized wheel. When we looked in the ducts with a camera they all appeared to be at least as large as my previous site built homes with no air flow...
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    I grant you,I do need a really good...

    I grant you,I do need a really good troubleshooter. I am still hoping that Goodman will be able to find the answer. Thanks for all the input. Now I need to bring in wood for the appliance that is...
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    The air handler is 24 3/4 deep and 21 1/2 wide....

    The air handler is 24 3/4 deep and 21 1/2 wide. Unit is within 1/2 in of rear of cabinet. I think this means that the coil cabinet and the blower cabinet are properly oriented respective to each...
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    The cabinet is 24 1/2 deep and 27 wide and 115in...

    The cabinet is 24 1/2 deep and 27 wide and 115in tall. Once the thing works I will make a permanent door for the front of the cabinet. For now there is a piece of sheetrock that fits the opening and...
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    The equiptment was purchased by my contractor...

    The equiptment was purchased by my contractor [friend] from a local refergeration supply house. One of the two biggest in this area. He has since gone back to a different manufacturer and does not...
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    What would you expect?

    What would you expect?
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    Everything you say sounds correct as to the...

    Everything you say sounds correct as to the measurements. The system has been charged at least twice for winter and then will not cool in summer without adding refergerant. This system has been...
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    Yeah--it looked better before the first time he...

    Yeah--it looked better before the first time he replaced the tx valve . I told you early on he is a friend - not a the best tech. But he is a hard worker and is not charging me for all these service...
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    Most logical answer so far!! Yes check me was...

    Most logical answer so far!! Yes check me was during the summer. Protocol he used?? Reading the report - True flow plate measured air flow1403;charge test med
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    The compressor is hitting the high pressure...

    The compressor is hitting the high pressure switch not bypassing, unless bypassing turns the compressor and fan off. Off at 610 and back on at 400 in under 1min. From cold start up it takes about...
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    I think I can say optimal in that we are talking...

    I think I can say optimal in that we are talking about reducing head pressure, not overall system function or performance. This test was done at the request of the Goodman representitive. I was...
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    The unit has been charged at least three times...

    The unit has been charged at least three times with present air flow. Still the basic question - cools well with proper pressures,heat mode with optimal air flow pressures 610 high side? How come?
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    Not great pictures and no I'm not going under the...

    Not great pictures and no I'm not going under the house if I can help it!
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    Ok but with filter out and duct off under house...

    Ok but with filter out and duct off under house the air flow is optimal and the system was still not functioning. 610 to400 psi cycles in less than one minute. And yes everything was in place when...
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    I must have misled you somehow. The two reading...

    I must have misled you somehow. The two reading are different. Return is .05 and supply is .25 giving the total of .30. Yes I am in Oregon. 25miles up the Rogue River from Medford. The coil cabinet...
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    The return air pressure was taken at the air filter louvered opening with the filter removed and with the outside air vent open and closed. open was .04 and closed was .05. the other reading was...
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    The system has been evacuated and recharged numerous times while replacing the tx-valves and the drier. Also it passed the check me as to temp and pressures. I would think the charge would be correct...
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    The suction line is 7/8 and the liquid line is...

    The suction line is 7/8 and the liquid line is 3/8. I was guessing before. We have a tight fitting cabinet that houses the airhandler with the filter opening on one side and the fresh air vent on top...
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    Only phone conferences are available here. Very...

    Only phone conferences are available here. Very frustrating. We have sent pictures and now the static pressure reading to the consultant. I hope for some answers on monday.
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    Ok but if the system was wide open in the return...

    Ok but if the system was wide open in the return and had a 16in. duct removed from the plenum and I was still watching 610psi to 400psi in under 1 minute cycles there must be a further prob;lem? I...
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    The outside vent is a 6 inch. with a motor to...

    The outside vent is a 6 inch. with a motor to open and close. As far as I know it has just a screen and a rain hat. I watched the tests and they were done with the indoor filter removed and the...
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    Got that. I was just not thinking for a min. I...

    Got that. I was just not thinking for a min. I had out conference with Goodman rep. by telephone friday. She wanted static pressures and has not replied since being given the numbers. static pressure...
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