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    The VAVs hooked to a BCU and programmed into a...

    The VAVs hooked to a BCU and programmed into a site there? Or they standalone?

    If there is a BCU then Yes. You will need to record the auth number down for the machine you wish to use. Then...
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    The older units did not follow profiles and...

    The older units did not follow profiles and whatnot as well as the new firmwares. So if you got a older green board or one that just wont accept an upgrade i would say that is your issue.
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    Yes you need tracer summit to change the BCU to...

    Yes you need tracer summit to change the BCU to BACnet/IP through a utility called ip validate/bcu config. You use a mini monitor cable to do this. Since you are already talking via RS-232 you...
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    Nothing is wired to the LON in your picture. ...

    Nothing is wired to the LON in your picture. Only thing wired up is the Comm4 link, so the chiller is talking that.

    To get BACnet/IP out of the BCU you will need to load an IP in it, then make...
  5. Years ago I had used a program NL Util. Not sure...

    Years ago I had used a program NL Util. Not sure if it does all you want but you might check it out.
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    Yes you are correct.

    Yes you are correct.
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    Its checking for a value out of range. So if...

    Its checking for a value out of range. So if your input is setup as 4-20ma, you will get a fail if it is below 4 or above 20. Thermistors out of there temperature range, etc..

    When the fail is...
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    P of 2 and 20 sec PID runtime to start be worth a...

    P of 2 and 20 sec PID runtime to start be worth a shot.
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    no integral is not in seconds. Advantage of...

    no integral is not in seconds.

    Advantage of feedback is the PID knows last value. So if you have another program controlling the value based on something (freezestat, low limits, etc..) it knows...
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    What is your P, I and PID run frequency?

    What is your P, I and PID run frequency?
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    if it has the t-stat terminals on the board then...

    if it has the t-stat terminals on the board then just use those and remove the Trane thermostat from 1,2,3 terminals. I believe that is all you have to do.
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    If i read what you want right, a BCU will not...

    If i read what you want right, a BCU will not talk BACnet MSTP. So you can not interface directly to the BCU that way. You can do BACnet/IP with a BCU.
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    I dont remember exactly off hand but it should be...

    I dont remember exactly off hand but it should be something like Site: School, BCU-1 Chiller 1, High Head Pressure in alarm and a date stamp

    I believe it gives you most of what you see in the...
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    You use outlook 2007 with a valid account made in...

    You use outlook 2007 with a valid account made in it that can send out emails. You must have Summit and Outlook running at all times for emails to be sent. You can only define one alarm class to be...
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    Can you find that board with the neuron id and...

    Can you find that board with the neuron id and isolate it from the link and see if your lon problems go away? Almost looks like you have a bad board that is flooding the link.
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    Go to Tracer ES Home, then select all buildings,...

    Go to Tracer ES Home, then select all buildings, next page check mark the building you want to delete and hit advanced, next page hit delete
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    They are called "Common Boxes". When adding vavs...

    They are called "Common Boxes". When adding vavs to the VAS you set up how many common boxes you want to keep occupied during start/stop of the RTU. You can go to vas and then members tab and the...
  18. You might try creating a new area. See if its...

    You might try creating a new area. See if its still grayed. Make sure you have all security rights you need also. When upgrading from that old user privileges changed.

    If you try all this and...
  19. Have you isolated anything out? Have you got on...

    Have you isolated anything out? Have you got on the mstp link and seen how it responds? Is it slow?

    Is the trane controller and the siemens router on the same subnet? Are they on a customers...
  20. Are you integrating into a Tracer SC directly on...

    Are you integrating into a Tracer SC directly on the mstp link or is this a router that is converting over to bacnet/IP and into a SC or BCU? Sorry i am not fimilar with the ATEC.
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    I 100% agree with qtip here. That is their job...

    I 100% agree with qtip here. That is their job and they need to get the software and input it themselves. Especially since its free as stated earlier. I personally have never inputted values for a...
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    Air Flow Gain AV-18 Gain set when air balancing ...

    Air Flow Gain AV-18 Gain set when air balancing
    Factory default 1.0 Range 0.000 to 2.000
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    Its based on box type and if it has a flow ring...

    Its based on box type and if it has a flow ring and transducer. Then if that is setup correct it has to be reading flow. It will switch between the modes automatically based on if it successfully...
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    Not sure if JCI does it the same way, but do you...

    Not sure if JCI does it the same way, but do you have the BACnet user able to perform writes? Maybe make it a super user to test.

    Also when exporting points did you allow anything in the 1-16...
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    The SC is a native BACnet device. So anything...

    The SC is a native BACnet device. So anything brought into the panel will be available to you to pull in via IP. We do not have to build a point database like we use to in the old BCUs. If you...
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    You can make the BAS setpoint adjustment at the...

    You can make the BAS setpoint adjustment at the vav itself. You can also make global bas setpoint adjustments from the spaces page depending on what version of SC you are running.
  27. Even if you upgrade to a bridge/SC you will still...

    Even if you upgrade to a bridge/SC you will still need the CM4.1 in place.
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    I would say that almost all bindings are...

    I would say that almost all bindings are typically done in a BCU. So once you remove the BCU the bindings are lost. There is two domains that exist, an A and B. Trane by default commissions both...
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    Rover discovers the link on a ZL domain. If you...

    Rover discovers the link on a ZL domain. If you set the Jace up to a specific domain and set domain B to not used then rover will not discover it. You can either have the Jace set one of the...
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    The repeater can be anywhere in the link long as...

    The repeater can be anywhere in the link long as it leaves <60 on one side. So it may be physically anywhere. Trane repeaters also do not show up on a scan or in the BCU. So you would not see it...
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    Also check what voltage you read with it the...

    Also check what voltage you read with it the wires unhooked. If it still reads 13 unwired then not a vsd issue.
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    Each user preference can be set to display what...

    Each user preference can be set to display what they want. So log in as the user and then go to preferences and select display units you want to see.
  33. The bcu can reside on the network in the ethernet...

    The bcu can reside on the network in the ethernet mode. Just plug the BCU and the PC both into a switch. Ethernet does not cross subnets so if for some reason the network you plugged the bcu into...
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    Are you running a sql database setup on a larger...

    Are you running a sql database setup on a larger site?
  35. Do a clear ram and reset on the BCU. I would...

    Do a clear ram and reset on the BCU. I would start there.

    It will lose all overrides so run a report before hand to save those and then re-override the points after it comes up.
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    Summit should be the one that puts the unit into...

    Summit should be the one that puts the unit into morning warmup if configured correctly. The vav and the rtu needs to be properly setup in area and vas and scheduling to allow it to happen.

    I do...
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    Are the units switching back and forth between...

    Are the units switching back and forth between heat and cool? So 100% econ to cool then going right into heat and warming it back up?

    What are your deadbands for heat and cool? If they are lon...
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    What is the specific problem you are having? ...

    What is the specific problem you are having? Does the unit go unoccupied when commanded and occupied when commanded? Is it that you just don't see why it would say stop. I am just trying to...
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    Do you heartbeat the points? Possibly you send...

    Do you heartbeat the points? Possibly you send the change once and the controller doesn't see a value again it assumes comm loss to the front end.
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    I would recommend teamviewer as bwood suggested. ...

    I would recommend teamviewer as bwood suggested. That way you are using the local workstation and should have same speed you do as sitting in front of it. If it is slow that way it has to be your...
  41. Thread: Trane BCI-I

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    Which point are you writing too? You can not...

    Which point are you writing too? You can not write to the OA damper position directly i think. You would need to write to Min OA damper position setpoint.

    If you are using the DCV built into the...
  42. We need a little more info on what type of unit...

    We need a little more info on what type of unit it is. Yes most SCC in Summit do have a auto changeover but unit type will help us confirm this.
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    Try hitting the service pin on the Viconics to...

    Try hitting the service pin on the Viconics to force it to say its there for the BCU.
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    Try restarting the PC. How often do you restart...

    Try restarting the PC. How often do you restart summit and or the PC normally?

    Also check that the Summit.mdb is not very large, >10mb in size.

    Do you know what happened before this error? ...
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    You should be able to just navigate to the bog...

    You should be able to just navigate to the bog file on the PC under the file system and edit it there from your navigate tree.

    Then save the bog and when back onsite do a station copy to the...
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    My thoughts and prayers are with you and your...

    My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.
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    If its on the Comm4 link with the other VAVs then...

    If its on the Comm4 link with the other VAVs then it is talking Comm4 also.
  48. those bit.ly links always scare me.. Something...

    those bit.ly links always scare me.. Something about not know what page i will be going too. Kind of ironic since your talking about hackers.
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    Yes leave everything as it is and take a reading...

    Yes leave everything as it is and take a reading across one of the EOL.

    I would recommend middle of the distance. That doesn't necessarily mean middle of the devices. So try and find where you...
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    The workstation or the ES will not cause the...

    The workstation or the ES will not cause the problem in my opinion.

    Did the fail for lontalk service give anymore information or a specific unit or dsn?

    Can you measure the ohms on the link as...
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