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    Since this appears to be a benchtop test...

    Since this appears to be a benchtop test environment I would recommend that you define a fresh N30 configuration that reflects the N2 devices on your bus with SiteBuilder, then download it into the...
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    Can you upload the configuration from the N30...

    Can you upload the configuration from the N30 with ProjectBuilder?
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    If you look at the product brochure...

    If you look at the product brochure http://cgproducts.johnsoncontrols.com/MET_PDF/12011122.PDF it says that it is Powered by the Niagara AX Framework. This would imply that it will support the FX...
  4. Sounds like quite a learning experience. Thanks...

    Sounds like quite a learning experience. Thanks for the insights.
  5. Thanks for the info. Very few were sold here in...

    Thanks for the info. Very few were sold here in the U.S. Mostly Europe and South America. Since we sell our BACnet-N2 ROuter anywhere that Metasys is found we needed to learn how to support it. It...
  6. Thanks for the advice

    Thanks for the advice
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    Tharin, your post was a long time ago. Have you...

    Tharin, your post was a long time ago. Have you gotten rid of this equipment?
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    Joey, Do you still have the Novar panel? Talk...

    Joey,

    Do you still have the Novar panel? Talk to me. You've got my number.
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    Cases needed for Metasys N2 devices

    We just received enough N2 devices in a shipment to double the size of our Metasys N2 test lab. That's the good news.
    The bad news is that we received
    (2) DX-9100s
    (1) XT 9100 and
    (2) XP9104...
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    Cases needed for Metasys N2 devices

    We just received enough N2 devices in a shipment to double the size of our Metasys N2 test lab. That's the good news.
    The bad news is that we received
    (2) DX-9100s
    (1) XT 9100 and
    (2) XP9104...
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    There is work in process at S4 to offer a...

    There is work in process at S4 to offer a replacement for the Metasys Passthrough mode for HVAC Pro and the other Metasys utilities. It is indeed a challenge with the constraints of the N2 protocol...
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    You might also consider our S4 Open Appliances,...

    You might also consider our S4 Open Appliances, the S4 Open: OPC-N2 Router or S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router for this application. This approach puts the management of the N2 bus in the local building and...
  13. Testing BACnet BBMD and Foreign Device Registration

    S4 is testing BBMD and Foreign Device Registration support in our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router. I'd like to hear from anyone who has a BACnet application capable of initiating Foreign Device...
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    I think the point Integrator was trying to make...

    I think the point Integrator was trying to make is that the default assignment of Device ID in the NAE is 500. If you have multiple devices with the same device ID you run the risk of confusing...
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    You should be able to get this to work....

    You should be able to get this to work. Especially with all the expertise available on this forum. If you end up needing an alternative take a look at our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router if the field...
  16. Information needed on Metasys SC-9100 N2 device

    Our business is expanding in Europe and we recently found a N2 device called the SC-9100. It appears that this device was primarily soled into the European marketplace. Our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router...
  17. Thread: hvacpro

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    Both products mentioned in this thread, 485TBLED...

    Both products mentioned in this thread, 485TBLED and S2485USB work really well. We use both in our test lab environment for accessing the N2 bus on a regular basis.
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    You're welcome. I'm glad that we could be of help.

    You're welcome. I'm glad that we could be of help.
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    Confirmed. You do need to power cycle the unit...

    Confirmed. You do need to power cycle the unit after changing the address switches.
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    Everyone else has given you some great advice....

    Everyone else has given you some great advice. Many times issues like this are resolved by going back to basics and checking the details. We work with both Facilitator and Metasys branded devices in...
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    It sounds like you are getting some great advice....

    It sounds like you are getting some great advice. If the above actions do not bring the devices online then start looking towards a possible wiring problem with the N2 bus or a repeater on the bus...
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    I tried to edit my last post but somehow it...

    I tried to edit my last post but somehow it failed. Let me try this way.

    Controlgeek is correct. My contact info is in my profile I can send you additional information about the technology and the...
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    Since we wrote the code to implement our BACnet...

    Since we wrote the code to implement our BACnet IP interface we had a lot of flexibility. NCM Transactions (yes, N2 transactions) can participate in the BACnet priority array mechanism so that you...
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    Controlgeek is correct. My contact info is in my...

    Controlgeek is correct. My contact info is in my profile. I recently wrote a blog article about an interim solution for "Passthrough" support and we are close to offering an on-board "Passthrough"...
  25. Thread: New to JCI

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    JCI has most of their documents available on...

    JCI has most of their documents available on their web site and a very effective search engine at http://cgproducts.johnsoncontrols.com/default.aspx?main.aspx&2.
  26. Thread: Niagara Summit

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    I'm attending for the first time this year. I'd...

    I'm attending for the first time this year. I'd appreciate any advice the veterans can provide me about how to get the most out of the event. I'd also like to talk with anyone considering...
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    Go to the JCI site and search for a document...

    Go to the JCI site and search for a document called N2 Communications Bus. It is ancient but all of the concepts about the N2 bus are still valid. It shows lots a good examples of how to set up a N2...
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    Contact David Hageman at Apex Custom Solutions....

    Contact David Hageman at Apex Custom Solutions. They have done a lot of work on reporting and conversions of the NCM database.
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    The N2 bus is electrically a RS-485 network. So,...

    The N2 bus is electrically a RS-485 network. So, you cannot look at one device in isolation. Definitely, the "T" tap is a problem. As several people mentioned the N2 bus needs to be strictly daisy...
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    If, after you investigate the NAE, you find that...

    If, after you investigate the NAE, you find that it can't do what you need contact S4. My contact information is in my profile. With our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router you can keep the NAE in place if you...
  31. I can confirm that we are working on a...

    I can confirm that we are working on a replacement for the "Passthrough" mode. It will be available with any of our S4 Open Appliances. We are shooting for next quarter. There are articles on our web...
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    My copy is also dated 2001. Is there a specific...

    My copy is also dated 2001. Is there a specific question you are trying to answer?
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    If you choose our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router for...

    If you choose our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router for the Johnson N2 integration each N2 device will be published as a BACnet device under a virtual BACnet Network. You'll still need to use HVAC Pro and...
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    If the field devices are N2 we can help you out...

    If the field devices are N2 we can help you out with a much cleaner integration solution. I'm looking forward to more information about these devices.
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    The DX-9100 has an operation called "Hold Mode"....

    The DX-9100 has an operation called "Hold Mode". This is about as close as you can get to the equivalent of the N2 Open Override and Release operations. This would allow you to directly manipulate...
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    If you go to JCI's web site you can download a...

    If you go to JCI's web site you can download a document N2 Communications Bus, document number 636018. This is a very old document that refers to some of the early generation Metasys hardware but the...
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    Top 10 Reasons to use the S4 Open : BACnet-N2...

    Top 10 Reasons to use the S4 Open : BACnet-N2 Router
    1. The N2 Router supports any N2 device that you will find on a N2 bus including N2 Open, VMA, Vendor Devices, Metasys Integrator, and Centaurus...
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    Let me know if you need any additional...

    Let me know if you need any additional information about the S4 Products. You'll find that each product has a sweet spot depending on the size and complexity of your project.
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    Changing Controls System

    I can't talk for the other solutions but the S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router would be the enabling technology for performing an integration (your #1 above). We participate in the BACnet PlugFest so our...
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    Hello Racket, Do you know if the Siemens solution...

    Hello Racket, Do you know if the Siemens solution supports all variations of the N2 protocol?
    N2 Open: support for the UNT, AHU, VAV, Vendor (VND), Metasys Integrator (MIG)
    N2B: support for the...
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    Guys, can you bring this thread back to Randy's...

    Guys, can you bring this thread back to Randy's original question. I don't think he wants to consider a product that has been discontinued. The Tracer Communications Bridge - N2 to BACnet/IP is a...
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    Please contact me offline. You are moving in a...

    Please contact me offline. You are moving in a great direction and I can provide you with additional guidance.
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    Changing Controls System

    I can help you with part of the solution. Our S4 Open: BACnet-N2 Router integrates into legacy JCI Metasys N2 based systems and publishes everything we find to BACnet IP, turning the proprietary...
  44. Thread: AHR roll call?

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    I will be there entire time. We do not have a...

    I will be there entire time. We do not have a booth but I will be on the panel for the automedbuildings.com sponsored Connected Communities session on Wednesday. Call on my cell phone if you would...
  45. When you get the document from JCI the...

    When you get the document from JCI the implementation should be fairly straight forward as it sounds like you want to bring a 3rd party device into Metasys. Timing of N2 is a bit tricky but as long...
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    This is one of the symptoms you can see if you...

    This is one of the symptoms you can see if you have a polarity problem, or other wiring problem on the bus. You can get reflections or the signals get garbled and look like something completely...
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    That confirms that your USB to RS-485 converter...

    That confirms that your USB to RS-485 converter is set up properly and that HVAC Pro is working properly. Focus on a polarity issue, a bad N2 device taking down the entire bus, or possibly a repeater...
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    Check this forum for any compatibility issues...

    Check this forum for any compatibility issues with specific USB to RS-485 adapters and also the version and patches level of HVAC Pro. Since you received a communications failure with only one device...
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    Two thoughts. Do you have a RS-485 adapter set...

    Two thoughts.

    Do you have a RS-485 adapter set up for HVAC Pro? Standard COM ports are RS-232 and will not work without an adapter. On older machines you can use a RS-232 to RS-485 adapter. Newer...
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    Many of our integration partners have found this...

    Many of our integration partners have found this to be a very good diagnostic tool. Not only does it give you the voltages but it scans the bus to confirm what devices (and N2 addresses) it can...
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