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    Piss-poor is hyphenated. If you guys have...

    Piss-poor is hyphenated.

    If you guys have issues with modbus, then you need to update yr competencies.

    If you need a gateway as opposed to a driver...i feel sorry for you.

    If yr driver is...
  2. look in the help. where there is a getProperty...

    look in the help.
    where there is a getProperty you can use the the BFormat to grab the value by removing the 'get' and then making the next capitalised letter lowercase as well

    for instance:
    ...
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    I nice thought thanks. Nah, I had to install the...

    I nice thought thanks.
    Nah, I had to install the program from disk onto the site computer.
    There are a handful of APDs on the disk but theyre several years old.
    Looks like the client's entire...
  4. Nice :-)

    Nice :-)
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    agggh! ... another completely open control system.

    agggh! ... another completely open control system.
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    yes the cooling calls are the problem. yes there...

    yes the cooling calls are the problem.
    yes there is an LGR but I have no idea if it is hybrid ... Im talking both bacnet and whatever the other protocol is to the legacy stuff.
    The dead controller...
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    JCI FX-xx under Jace

    Got a job full of FX14 and FX07 and the original contractor has shot themselves in the foot ( whilst foot was in mouth)

    There are pretty much zero FX-Builder files on site and as a consequence the...
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    old ALC

    Got an old ALC job with a new WebControl and Eikon

    All the field controllers were built with InterOp and imported/translated.

    Cant edit the equipment files or graphics with any of the tools...
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    none as far as I know...you get to all registers...

    none as far as I know...you get to all registers in a TEC via the driver


    run an alternative comms bus


    backup everything and pocket the dongle
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    interesting concept. I like it. Dunno how sound...

    interesting concept. I like it. Dunno how sound it is but I like it
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    nobody pays for energy ... they only pay for...

    nobody pays for energy ... they only pay for work.

    power is the rate of doing work....or... the amount of energy consumed per unit time.
    simply put WORK = ENERGY x TIME ... ie kWh

    Your...
  12. Wow, just in case you'd need to bypass all the...

    Wow, just in case you'd need to bypass all the water from all the chwps eh?
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    Like the JCI v ALC wrestling extravaganza in the...

    Like the JCI v ALC wrestling extravaganza in the other thread.

    Both products ... Completely open... LOL
  14. Looks a little like you are trying to connect via...

    Looks a little like you are trying to connect via browser when the controller is only commissioned with runtime instead of runtime + ui.
  15. hehe !!

    hehe !!
  16. thanks so much for showing my point. ...and...

    thanks so much for showing my point.

    ...and yet you dont feel like youre ranting and raving?? ...interesting.

    The currency here is NOT getting a job ... the currency is achieving the outcomes....
  17. isn't Javelina Jace7 ??? and yr talking jace...

    isn't Javelina Jace7 ???


    and yr talking jace 6 .... maybe just uninstall platPower and see if it restarts.
  18. my gawd ... listen to the mech contractors and...

    my gawd ... listen to the mech contractors and unionistas all scrabbling to defend their self serving money grubbing, power hungry ways in the world.

    I am not your floozie and will never be...
  19. It doesnt quite sound bricked to me....just not...

    It doesnt quite sound bricked to me....just not running.

    Connect platform and file transfer the bog file and graphics etc....any backup that you can find

    Clean dist ...and start again.

    On...
  20. Had a building where every day at noon the...

    Had a building where every day at noon the cooling would ramp up for 2 hours and all zone temperatures would plummet. Phone complaints went through the roof. Of course it was a controls problem that...
  21. *chuckled out loud

    *chuckled out loud
  22. commissioning 2 new chillers for a big data...

    commissioning 2 new chillers for a big data centre.
    everytime a chiller started and its associated cwp started there was a horrible surging noise.
    The mechanical commisioning guy freaked out at...
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    there's no such thing as a smart building. You'll...

    there's no such thing as a smart building. You'll need smart people.


    Rude comment removed. -Dad
  24. you can edit the bound label right there in the...

    you can edit the bound label right there in the kitPx palette and set it to whatever you need. press save.
    each one you create now gets built using yr saved settings.
    A palette is just a bog file...
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    ...exactly

    ...exactly
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    Hmm, only see one inflated and then bruised ego...

    Hmm, only see one inflated and then bruised ego around here this week.

    Its always hard finding out that what you thought was 'truth' for years is basically wrong. I tried to be gentle and delicate...
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    The smug satisfaction of being right. turning...

    The smug satisfaction of being right.
    turning conventional wisdom on its head and pinpointing again what the cause is and rectifying it. Being just about the only one that can. Gawd i do get sick of...
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    my gawd pay somebody? Pay a controls guy?...geez...

    my gawd pay somebody? Pay a controls guy?...geez yr funny!

    When they find the end of the rainbow, they can ask the leprecorns where to find the unicorns.
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    Or keep paying for people who cant make it...

    Or keep paying for people who cant make it work...your choice i suppose.

    Trouble with controls guys is everybody reckons that if their lips are moving, that theyre talking 'sheat'...hmmph, only...
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    [QUOTE=JCIman;20787181] .He keeps saying that...

    [QUOTE=JCIman;20787181] .He keeps saying that damper position is the same as cooling demand. It's not the same, and damper position is not what I'm talking about. Damper position has nothing to do...
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    Ok question for you. All yr boxes at at or...

    Ok question for you.

    All yr boxes at at or around max flow and the zone temps are fine.

    Why are you still indexing yr SA setpoint down?
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    Very funny. You're still thinking of the...

    Very funny.

    You're still thinking of the problem ass...er, I mean arse about.

    Damper position informs station pressure required.

    Temperature informs temperature required.

    ...one day...
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    or an alternative solution. ...turn the phone...

    or an alternative solution.

    ...turn the phone off.

    :-)
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    yep the retaining screws fall out of the VMAs...

    yep

    the retaining screws fall out of the VMAs then the damper shaft stays in position while the VMA rotates around the shaft ...and this pulls the comms wires out.

    also, if you ever got a JCI...
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    damper/min/max...etc only informs static pressure...

    damper/min/max...etc only informs static pressure SP decisions
    zone temp informs supply air temp SP decisions.

    damper/min/max does not have anything to do with discharge air setpoint... never...
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    omfg you've indexed the posts.. LOL Seriously...

    omfg you've indexed the posts.. LOL

    Seriously Im not just trying to wind you up here (pun intended)

    call it 'terminal load', 'damper position', or 'cooling demand' ... they are all wrong and...
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    Wow! ..get what yr saying now

    Wow!

    ..get what yr saying now
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    no, vavs and ahus control zone temp....not...

    no, vavs and ahus control zone temp....not chillers.

    The only staging consideration for the plant is...do I need more or less chillers to maintain my chw Sp? No more, no less.

    The vav zone temp...
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    Oops

    Oops
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    Min flow, maxflow, damper postion...same thing....

    Min flow, maxflow, damper postion...same thing. If yr boxes are at maxflow and the temp is ok why do you need colder air?
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    Mate damper position is only relevant to the...

    Mate damper position is only relevant to the vavs...and the thing that they influence.ie spacetemp. it has nothing to do with supply air temperature. At all. Ever.

    If yr boxes are all open and the...
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    Damper position is only useful for the static...

    Damper position is only useful for the static pressure requirement.

    Valve position is only useful for the chilled water requirement.

    Separate the control systems from one another.

    Vavs too...
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    Sure, I'll go with dev as a second bet

    Sure, I'll go with dev as a second bet
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    Umm...that will only work if you remove integral...

    Umm...that will only work if you remove integral action from the primary flow loop.

    Otherwise damper position has absolutely nothing to do with demand.
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    Ha, we specialise in fixing bad buildings and...

    Ha, we specialise in fixing bad buildings and integrating foreign systems...basically my plan is to have robots take over the world.
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    bang on baby! ... for vavs the only real...

    bang on baby! ... for vavs the only real indication of load that we have is deviation from SP

    RA temp and damper position have very little to do with what is required in the space.

    for tridium...
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    Hmm, the tank adds a buffer ( and actually extra...

    Hmm, the tank adds a buffer ( and actually extra load ) but the benefits definitely outweigh the costs.

    Not sure that the system necissarily needs monitoring historically to optimise . What we pay...
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    You'd probably need the RobotEditor. ...

    You'd probably need the RobotEditor.

    BAlarmSourceExt a = new BAlarmSourceExt();
    a.setFaultAlgorithm ( new BOutOfRangeFaultAlgorithm() ) ;
    a.setOffnormalAlgorithm ( new...
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    ...Ive havent seen a chiller tech actually do...

    ...Ive havent seen a chiller tech actually do anything for like 10 years!

    just sayin'
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    ROFL

    ROFL
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