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    When measuring ohms and amps on a small 480 volt...

    When measuring ohms and amps on a small 480 volt crankcase heater; if you don't have a sensitive meter, you may think it's open.
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    Looks like a better design than the Sporlan one....

    Looks like a better design than the Sporlan one. Better price too. What will not be connected to our phone in the future?
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    If it saves money, we will be seeing this...

    If it saves money, we will be seeing this everywhere soon. Plumbers have been using it for years. Low bid gets the job. Good thing o-rings never fail, ha ha. I wonder how it will do with heat pump...
  4. I work on a bunch of Lieberts with 407c. All have...

    I work on a bunch of Lieberts with 407c. All have clear sight glasses.
  5. I work on a bunch of Lieberts with 407c. All have...

    I work on a bunch of Lieberts with 407c. All have clear sight glasses.
    I have seen some refrigeration systems that never clear the glass. When it's running nice, the refrigerant will "river" by the...
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    It is a York,...

    It is a York, YCIV0177VA46VABBXTXXXXXLXXXX44XXXXX...........Typical giant model #.
    The sensor starts reading high by about 10*. It has happened on two different same model units which are right next...
  7. >Dual sensors everywhere: Subcooling, superheat,...

    >Dual sensors everywhere: Subcooling, superheat, ambient, motor temps, supply, return, amps. Differences in adjacent sensors will alarm a fault.
    >Artificial intelligence learns and controls...
  8. It's important to have a solid column of liquid...

    It's important to have a solid column of liquid at the TXV to have it function well. That's the idea of having some subcooling (indicating fully condensed liquid). I would try to get a clear glass...
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    Temp sensors fail on York chillers

    Is it common to see a lot of temperature sensor failures on a York chiller? This one chiller we do has had the chilled water sensors fail multiple times. Anybody else seen this?
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    You are not wrong. I do not do such things...

    You are not wrong. I do not do such things lightly. I'm going to speak to our salesman and let him explain the cost risk analysis to the customer.
    This was one reason I was asking for some numbers...
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    What is the math formula you used?

    What is the math formula you used?
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    There are no taps or vents. Two 3" gate valves...

    There are no taps or vents. Two 3" gate valves isolate the chiller from the loop. In the winter they shut the gate valves and open a bypass valve so water is just pumped back to the tanks.
    I...
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    It's fresh potable water. They circulate it...

    It's fresh potable water. They circulate it through the chiller and feed off the tank to mix cement in their trucks. They must have some make up water to keep the tank full.
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    Yes it is cooling the actual water that is used...

    Yes it is cooling the actual water that is used for the cement. Yes, it does have a strainer. I should open that the first thing when i get back there. I will.
    Question: As a strainer plugs; what...
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    Jayguy: Why do you say "that explains the...

    Jayguy: Why do you say "that explains the approach?"
    I was hoping to get some numbers in my head to go back with. That approach is high for these brazed plate heat exchangers from my reading, but...
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    Trane chiller low suction.

    Trane, 60 ton, CGAFC604A10000E000... Both circuits go off on low pressure as the water temperature gets closer to set-point.
    This chillers cools a 20,000 gal tank of water that is used for making...
  17. Thread: Liebert System4

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    What is a system 4? I have all the training...

    What is a system 4? I have all the training manuals for Liebert and I don't see it. Do you have a model #?
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    @hvac69. I think you are right. Alas, I was...

    @hvac69. I think you are right. Alas, I was hoping I could change the output to analog. I do not see clear instructions on the web anywhere. I have already called in the "control company" to come...
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    Belimo to controller change output

    I am looking for instructions on how to change the output of a controller.
    I have a Automated Logic controller ZN341v+ connected to a Belimo TR24-SR-T US for a reheat valve on a VAV. On a call...
  20. Thread: Hot loop

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    Thanks. Wow, just water going around and around...

    Thanks. Wow, just water going around and around in the pipe makes so much heat. Fascinating.
    Yes, the pump should be off, but apparently some nimrod bypassed the bad contactor and never followed...
  21. Thread: Hot loop

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    Hot loop

    A small chilled water loop is 130*f.
    The chiller is off. The 3-way valve by the one air handler is in bypass; so no water is going through the air handler. The chilled water pump is jumped out and...
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    They look like standard temperature probes that...

    They look like standard temperature probes that you might strap to a pipe or hang in a duct. They do not have mounting hardware, just the little probe. We would have to replace them all. The plans...
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    Room sensor location

    I have a building with 2 Carrier boxcar units and about 12 VAV boxes each. The room sensors are in the return air registers. It does not control well, constant complaints. Different guys have tried...
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    Thanks, I think you are right. I will keep...

    Thanks, I think you are right.
    I will keep doing what I do and wait for the Singularity.
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    I don't disagree with you. (Rant) I came from...

    I don't disagree with you.
    (Rant) I came from the supermarket world (20+ years). We worked with the high level control guys all the time and I have great respect for them. I don't want to mess with...
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    That looks nice. Things are advancing...

    That looks nice. Things are advancing exponentially. I hate to spend a 10,000 hours and dollars to learn all the old junk. I think I will leave that to the specialist. Everything will eventually be...
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    yep, I'm not a controls guy

    yep, I'm not a controls guy
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    Not a controls guy, but

    I will never be a "controls guy." If you read the Controls section on HVAV-TALK, it looks like they're speaking Greek. I have respect for their ability and type of mind. However, we in the commercial...
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    Wow. Some systems are so bad. Get some pictures....

    Wow. Some systems are so bad. Get some pictures. Years later you'll look and say, oh yes, that POS; found a beer can in the oil separator.
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    The large oil separator should be fine. It is the...

    The large oil separator should be fine. It is the drop in velocity of the hot gas the drops out most of the oil from the refrigerant, so big is better. The helical style work great. The problem with...
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    New Carrier tripping VFD

    The VFD to the indoor blower has tripped a few times on over-current fault. It would run a couple days then be tripped.
    The unit is running in high speed fan, 60 Hz, because it is in economizer...
  32. Thread: Noisy duct

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    Balancing damper screw loose?

    Balancing damper screw loose?
  33. Thread: Liebert AC4

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    On Lieberts, you need to always shut the unit off...

    On Lieberts, you need to always shut the unit off with the off switch before killing power or it creates a power fail alarm. To reset it you need to power it off correctly again with the off switch...
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    Why don't vacuum pumps have a check valve?

    Why don't vacuum pumps have a check valve?
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    The solid wires should be pre-twisted together...

    The solid wires should be pre-twisted together with linemen's pliers before putting the stranded to it.
    If putting stranded to a solid or group or solids, strip the stranded longer so the end sticks...
  36. Thread: A/C Renew

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    We just had the same thing happen on a new...

    We just had the same thing happen on a new Liebert Minimate. After 24 hours it started running great. Suction went from 20# to 65#.
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    Lieberts now come with 407c in them. Many with...

    Lieberts now come with 407c in them. Many with the same R-22 compressors they always had. There's a small difference in settings but no big deal. I do not know if Liebert did a bunch of research and...
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    I find several issues with these units. It's...

    I find several issues with these units. It's hardly redundant. The unit has two compressors and two heat exchangers with no isolation valves, and one very expensive pump. The controller has no useful...
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    Unit is a KKT Kraus, model KSC 215-L-U/S, Bladder...

    Unit is a KKT Kraus, model KSC 215-L-U/S, Bladder style expansion tank which is part of the chiller. Closed loop. No storage tank. One pump. Everything on it is in German. Can't shut anything off...
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    Good idea.

    Good idea.
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    Yes it has an expansion tank. It sounds empty....

    Yes it has an expansion tank. It sounds empty. You are right there must be a leak. It has very thick insulation. I shall not give up.
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    This is a sealed loop.

    This is a sealed loop.
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    Where does the water go?

    We take care of a couple of little Kraus chillers for some MRI machines. We have had to add a little water (perhaps a gallon or two) to them a few times because the suction side of the pump goes down...
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    What company is that from?

    What company is that from?
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    Top section of indoor coil dry

    Lennox, 13CHPA-36-230=1A, S#1607K07565, package heat-pump.
    Reported problem: Not keeping up in the afternoon. Goes to a bank in a supermarket.
    Outdoor 105*, outdoor RH 22%, indoor at stat 78*,...
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    Yes, I found out: don't turn on the compressor if...

    Yes, I found out: don't turn on the compressor if there's cleaner in there. Froze up solid in no time. haha.
  47. Excellent info, thank you.

    Excellent info, thank you.
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    Your market experience and attitude makes you a...

    Your market experience and attitude makes you a valuable person to other areas of this field.
    I too liked markets because they were complex and important. I did supermarkets for 20 years. It beats...
  49. Follett ice machine intermittently trip drive amps.

    We have just started taking care of 50+ Follett ice machines in a hospital complex. We get a lot of calls with drive amp trips. Sometimes it has been just ice backing up in the transport tube for a...
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    I see amps the same as you see. They seem to be...

    I see amps the same as you see. They seem to be very picky units. They must make their money on selling bearings.

    I have been finding on some Follett machines if the tube is not perfect; If it...
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