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    A normal FT-10 device can be operated on a LPT-10...

    A normal FT-10 device can be operated on a LPT-10 channel, so no need for a router here.
    BTW, SVEA and also TAC is all Schneider Electric.
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    When a manufacturer sends a product to a test...

    When a manufacturer sends a product to a test lab, he has to specify to which BACnet Device Profile the product complies. The BACnet Device Profile then specifies a minimum set of BIBBs.

    The...
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    Right - and you need to check the profiles before...

    Right - and you need to check the profiles before you know if the devices can communicate. Something that is often not so easy and straight forward.

    In LON, you do not have to think about that. On...
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    This does not sumarize my post correctly. Maybe I...

    This does not sumarize my post correctly. Maybe I wrote too much about comissioning tools and protocol basics.

    If you want to sum it up I would say that the ANSI/EIA 709 (LON) standard is much...
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    I disagree with this statement. There are some...

    I disagree with this statement.

    There are some fundamental differences on the level of interoperatbility between LON and BACnet.

    LON is a multi-master system, whereas BACnet is a Client/Server...
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    This is not completly correct. Let me try to...

    This is not completly correct. Let me try to explain in other words:

    1. First, there is a test plan. This test plan is the same world wide. The manufacturer needs to send his devices and the test...
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    I'll also be there. To contribute to this...

    I'll also be there.


    To contribute to this thread:
    There is a difference between BACnet standard conformance testing (according to a BTL test plan) and BTL listing.

    To check this, look here:...
  8. Thread: universal Gateway

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    How should routing between BACnet and LON work?...

    How should routing between BACnet and LON work?
    Routing is a layer 3 service, so it forwards packets based on the address information. Further, it can change media when staying in the same protocol...
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    I don't know the evaluation board, but I guess...

    I don't know the evaluation board, but I guess that it is just an empty neuron chip than you can program with Neuron C using the Nodebuilder software, right?

    Then there is nothing to configure -...
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    What devices are you using for this project?

    What devices are you using for this project?
  11. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    Do you mean if the controllers are configured as...

    Do you mean if the controllers are configured as clients or as servers?

    For the controllers I know best, it works the following way:
    In case the controller boots up, it automatically broadcasts...
  12. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    I would like to add a few things to this...

    I would like to add a few things to this conclusion.
    The LON protocol standard defines a powerful set of network management commands to configure the nodes in the network. LNS itself uses these...
  13. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    Hm, here I (partially) disagree. I think I...

    Hm, here I (partially) disagree. I think I understand what you mean by "the networks configure themselves" - probably you mean that the devices are able to find themselves with Who-Is, I-Am, Who-Has,...
  14. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    Yes, you can do this in LON. You can add all the...

    Yes, you can do this in LON. You can add all the nodes to the data base before you go onsite and press the service pin. You even can enter the unique-node-id manually in the LNS data base before you...
  15. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    Actually regarding addressing, LON IMHO has a...

    Actually regarding addressing, LON IMHO has a cleaner approach when looking at the OSI modell.
    In BACnet you have to set addresses for the BACnet communication (the one you described above) and in...
  16. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    Since the thread has been helpful to learn about...

    Since the thread has been helpful to learn about MSTP and the title is "MSTP vs FT10", let's add some facts about FT10. Maybe it is also helpful for some members who read this.

    FT10 is a special...
  17. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    I just found this interesting article about MSTP....

    I just found this interesting article about MSTP. Contains explanation about master and slaves. And also corrects me: slave IDs can be between 0 and 254.
    Check it out:...
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    AFAIK, Siemens at the moment is the only company...

    AFAIK, Siemens at the moment is the only company who uses this. I personally never tested the devices, but what I have heared, the setup performs really good and they have no issues with the FT...
  19. Not necessarily. When you use the correct Neuron...

    Not necessarily. When you use the correct Neuron C include files, then the data structure should always be correct. However, when you have a host based node which uses the Neuron Chip only as a...
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    BACnet over LON uses he Foreign Frame message...

    BACnet over LON uses he Foreign Frame message code for a LON application message to encapsulste the BACnet data into the APDU. The packet size is rather large compared to "normal" LON messages so you...
  21. Thread: MSTP vs FT10

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    OK guys, now since the thread is back to the...

    OK guys, now since the thread is back to the topic, let me also give my 2 cents on this - maybe it helps getting things told in different words:

    MSTP = Master/Slave Token Passing

    Each node on...
  22. To come back to Lonboy's original post about the...

    To come back to Lonboy's original post about the interoperable network: the fact that there is quite some freedom in the implementation of what services and features the devices support in BACnet...
  23. This is done individually on the different...

    This is done individually on the different devices. On BACnet IP you will find many devices which have a web server where you can adjust this. On other devices like e.g. a MSTP thermostat, you will...
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    Guys, these useless discussions about BACnet vs....

    Guys,
    these useless discussions about BACnet vs. Lonworks are soooo boring so please move this to the other thread and do not hihack this one.

    We are doing both - BACnet and LON - for several...
  25. Thread: how to start?

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    Thanks for the hint. Kaleun, did you apply for...

    Thanks for the hint.
    Kaleun, did you apply for Pro yet?
    Or can you please contact me via E-Mail (check my profile).
    Thanx
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