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    Which model between the manufacturers? Both...

    Which model between the manufacturers? Both RIDGID and Rothenberger make about 6 different pieces of threading equipment each.



    Rothenberger plumbing tools, in my experience, are top notch and...
  2. Maybe they are trying to get around the BA...

    Maybe they are trying to get around the BA buddies that are never out of work yet may not perform to expectations that get sent out from a call to the hall and rather reach out to the other "union...
  3. And why would 597 accept a transfer from a sheet...

    And why would 597 accept a transfer from a sheet metal worker?

    If you aren't structural welding or 6G pipe certified, what good are you as a pipefitter? Not that being AWS structural certified is...
  4. Then why do they make you (apprentice) choose...

    Then why do they make you (apprentice) choose HVAC or BT when you sign up?
  5. LU 597 tests only once a year, and they just did...

    LU 597 tests only once a year, and they just did it. Applications are taken every month- instructions are on their website.

    I wouldn't be "scared" of the test, but the study guide will help. If...
  6. Lots of math questions, fractions in particular....

    Lots of math questions, fractions in particular. No calculator allowed. Lots of picture based questions.

    The title of the study guide is "Apprentice Aptitude Battery" "Test Taking Tips" looks like...
  7. When I went through the interview process, there...

    When I went through the interview process, there were several stations with two interviewers: a LU597 employee (as in agent or instructor) and a contractor representative. This was done to cycle...
  8. From your perspective, age may be just a number....

    From your perspective, age may be just a number.

    I think you will have a heck of a time getting meaningful employment though.

    Good luck.
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    As I understand it, told by a couple of people...

    As I understand it, told by a couple of people that I know that have retired, somehow the union is able to look at previous employment. Permission to search (so to speak) is given by the retiree as...
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    If you took your union earnings over the last 4...

    If you took your union earnings over the last 4 years and readjusted it for full employment, what does it work out to? More or less than what you get now? You can't simply look at the 25% difference...
  11. I find it funny that someone that has the...

    I find it funny that someone that has the opportunity to own a viable business would even consider not taking the opportunity, although I understand that it isn't for everyone.

    Just as not...
  12. Yeah, HVACR is UA work. I guess that's why the...

    Yeah, HVACR is UA work.

    I guess that's why the BA's, other union officers and teachers at a nearby UA local hold building trades cards, not the lower scale HVACR cards... or that new "residential"...
  13. You will only get those union benefits if you...

    You will only get those union benefits if you work enough hours and you will only get that union retirement if you are able to continue working enough hours through the years as you get older until...
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    +1 on the "too old" part. The union sheet...

    +1 on the "too old" part.

    The union sheet metal HVAC companies in my part of the Chicago area simply won't hire you.

    There are no "older worker" quotas in the contract. Age discrimination can't...
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    That is an SDS-Plus drill, and it will do more...

    That is an SDS-Plus drill, and it will do more work than a regular SDS drill.

    Still no comparison to a spline drive or hex shank rotary hammer.

    If you plan to cut through 4" of concrete more...
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    In my area, I have applied at 2 non-union shops....

    In my area, I have applied at 2 non-union shops.

    One expected you to provide everything, the only thing they supplied was B tank and nitrogen tank exchanges, brazing rod and small consumables like...
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    Never heard of the NSMA (National Service...

    Never heard of the NSMA (National Service Maintenance Agreement).

    It appears that they use local UA contractors that are part of the MCAA (Mechanical Contractors Association of America), correct?...
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    So, if the Local UA has a split scale for...

    So, if the Local UA has a split scale for Building Trades and HVAC, then the National rate = Local HVAC?
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    So, what's the difference between a local...

    So, what's the difference between a local signatory and national?

    Yes. Chicago fitters seem to have multiple cards and pay rates.
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    In my area, the building trades fitters make more...

    In my area, the building trades fitters make more than the sheet metal journeymen.

    But, the UA HVAC cardholders make less than the BT fitters, and that rate is less than the sheet metal journeyman...
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    Quite possible. I could join the UA, but I...

    Quite possible. I could join the UA, but I suspect that my age will work against me once out of the apprenticeship. The UA has to accept me if I jump through their hoops and get in, but the employers...
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    That's been my experience so far. Of course,...

    That's been my experience so far.

    Of course, the piping is way too hard for mere mortals to figure out...


    :)
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    No disrespect taken.

    No disrespect taken.
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    Yes, I am in a Local, but not a UA local....

    Yes, I am in a Local, but not a UA local. Building trades and service.

    Like it or not, my numbers are in the ballpark in my area and in my local. No travelers.

    Average is just that. Some will...
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    Your numbers assume a 1,920 hours worked, which...

    Your numbers assume a 1,920 hours worked, which is essentially a full year (48 weeks at 40 hours each).

    Here are some real numbers for an average member in a given local:

    Average number of...
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