Interesting thread. I have never heard of this product in question. I would never try it on a customer I suppose without great results or it becoming the industry "norm". I would maybe think of using something like this at my mechanical testing facility (my own home) for sh*ts and giggles to see the results. I am 33 years old and like everyone else have seen products and technology continually advance. I try to stay open minded of new products but in these cases would rather be a follower than a leader. It's often hard to try something new when you know the "old way" is proven to work (in most cases). Many may disagree but I would love to see the day when there is a pex type tubing refrigerant line to be used. For all I know it's been tried in the industry or is under development. That's my dream though a kink free line set
I accept the op's dare. Here is one I did my first year in the trade. It was new construction over an hour drive from the shop and the boss said "I don't care, the contractor is demanding that the ac be running so do it." and do it I did. A week later we had to go back because the backhoe knocked it off the pad when back filling the rest of the foundation.
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BTW, I used it on HIGH PRESSURE lines on purpose, because if it can't handle the pressure, I wanted to know.
If I were doing daily work on locations where I routinely swap compressors or filters, I'd use this stuff. The issue I have is that I do much more PM and service between compressor change-outs. And the product was getting too old in my truck from the high summer heat (140 F in the truck just about all the time when parked).
Here's some of the manufacturer's information and a video http://www.youtube.com/share_popup?v=U4Jk0oH2Ijo
HVAC SUPER PRO is an innovative, single-part, solder-less bonding product that is easy to use and specifically formulated for HVAC and refrigeration systems.
- Bonds Aluminun, Copper, and Brass in any combination.
- 70% Faster than brazing.
- Makes the same number of bonds as 1-1/2 pounds of brazing rods.
- Cost less than 1/3 the cost of 15% silver brazing rods.
- Never damge electronic circuits like thermal expamsion valves and reversing valves.
- Reaches 850 psi in 12-minutes (1200 psi in 2 hours).
- Compatible with all refrigerants and oils including poe oils.
- Temperature range -650F to 3500F.
Here's the thread I should have read FIRST... but I was not a member then...
No, I provided that mound with a shovel and a wheelbarrow, the dirt was in the backyard from the excavation of the foundation. If I remember correctly the pad was 36 x 36 and just about three feet tall on the pile. I no longer work for that person anymore, I knew it was wrong when i did it, but the man that signs the paycheck said do it.
But I have also thrown a condenser on soft soil myself before, knowing it was going to lean to one side.
GC says we're ready, he gets the choice. Do it now, or pay me a fee and we come back another day.
He chooses do it now, he signs off on it. It fails, we come back and fix it for a fee.
Thats the only way you make money in RNC. Otherwise they jerk you around for extra trips. The smart GC's learn to call around and make sure it's ready, not just go by what they "think" they're ready for.
1107.5.4 Copper tubing joints. Copper tubing joints used in refrigerating systems containing Group A2, A3, B2 or B3 refrigerants shall be brazed. Soldered joints shall not be used in such refrigerating systems.