More apples to weed whackers comparisons with noting isolated islands versus hugh land mass with hundreds of thousands of miles of walk in border. What part of "It's easier to control anything on an island" do these people just not get?
As for the islands that have a lot of violence, it is due to many different cultural, governmental and economic variances.
How about a percentage of violent crimes against non-criminal citizens when gun control is in effect? With gun control, less of the bad guys can be shot.
or you can go with the incidences that WERE reported to police, and now your defensive gun use is only around 100K-150K per year. So the liberals can sit back and say "<scoff> your lying, the hard facts are right here"
It's crap shoot with the anti-gun crowd. You can bury them in facts, which they ignore or they pick and choose the stats that help there agenda?
This is why I'll be watching from the side lines for awhile. Ignorance I can fix, You can't fix stupid.
Isn't the simple solution to have all of the gun grabbers go move to a city and pass their laws and leave the rest of us alone? Seems like a simple enough compromise to me. They can have Chicago since it's already as close to gun free zone (well legally owned ones anyway). I don't have much use for Californication either so they can take their pick down there too.
Seems fair to me. They can all huddle together and protect each other. The rest of us will carry on with life.
“If people want guns they will get them?”
“No guns in the homes mean more home invasions?”
“No CCW leads to more crime?”
“The black market is unstoppable?”
“If someone wants to kill dozens of elementary school kids they will just use a pencil or a pocket knife?”
Are you saying that Hawaii doesn’t have a black market trade of any kind?
Are you saying they have a better criminal justice system?
Do they have more insane asylums?
Why aren't their criminals just using some other weapon?
Your response says two things:
An abolishment of guns does lead to a lower crime rate.
If Hawaii does indeed have a lower crime rate you’d rather criticize them rather than use them as a model solution for our shootings.
It would be nice if you guys stopped using the broad term “gun control.” If you mean CCW, say CCW. If you are inferring that we are about to lose our right to have any type of gun in our home for self defense, say that. But I don’t see that being a possibility.
"Gun control" is such a broad term it is nearly meaningless. It's like asking are you for or against air pollution.
And no it was not a comparison, it was referring to a place the gun grabbers can have. That would make you 0 for 2 in your effort to comprehend, thus my reluctance to attempt to answer your request.