Texas to secede from the union?

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11-13-2012, 07:20 PM
AStudent

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Originally Posted by chaard

Looks like 11 more states including Missouri have jumped into the fray.

What I don't get is why the WH is getting the petitions.

http://www.ky3.com/news/ky3-some-mis...,3426957.story

So far only Texas has the required amount of signatures.
11-13-2012, 07:32 PM
chaard

And I'm sure Obama is going to start a nice bonfire with them.
11-13-2012, 07:52 PM
mcjo tech

Hey Texas

Go For It!!

See I can agree with the Conservs on some things. :grin2:

I think it is a GREAT idea!

Probably won't be allowed in the NFL if they do.

Which is ok with me since I can't stand them Cowboys anyway.

Now the NFL can get a team in LA without expansion.
11-13-2012, 09:12 PM
hearthman

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...de_663282.html

Evil does not take a holiday.
11-13-2012, 09:15 PM
chaard

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Originally Posted by hearthman

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...de_663282.html

Evil does not take a holiday.

I thought you could not strip a US citizen of their citizenship?
11-13-2012, 09:20 PM
hearthman

When you have a dictator in power, he can do whatever he wants.
11-13-2012, 09:50 PM
AStudent

So you are complaining that the people of a state that no longer wants to be part of the USA will be stripped of citizenship?

I mean....yeah they cant take your citizenship away, but you are giving it away when you decide to seceed.

Am I missing something here?
11-13-2012, 10:02 PM
glennac

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Originally Posted by AStudent

So you are complaining that the people of a state that no longer wants to be part of the USA will be stripped of citizenship?

I mean....yeah they cant take your citizenship away, but you are giving it away when you decide to seceed.

Am I missing something here?

Yeah you sure are. They wouldn't be giving it away until and unless Texas does succeed and is recognized by the US as a sovereign country.

If the US does not recognize the succession then they by default are still citizens of the US including those who exercised their first Amendment rights in signing the petition and who live in Texas. Pretty simple. Comprendi?

However with a communist dictator for our President I guess anything can happen. Thank you, thank you very much
11-13-2012, 10:15 PM
ga-hvac-tech

Quote:

Originally Posted by hearthman

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/...de_663282.html

Evil does not take a holiday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaard

I thought you could not strip a US citizen of their citizenship?

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Originally Posted by hearthman

When you have a dictator in power, he can do whatever he wants.

This is kinda a long read... however if one looks at what the govt has done recently... there seems to be a pattern... and a SCARY pattern if one thinks they still have any Constitutional rights left...

Read and weep for what we lost in our country:

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/12.10/judo.html
11-13-2012, 10:17 PM
ga-hvac-tech

Quote:

Originally Posted by AStudent

So you are complaining that the people of a state that no longer wants to be part of the USA will be stripped of citizenship?

I mean....yeah they cant take your citizenship away, but you are giving it away when you decide to seceed.

Am I missing something here?

What you are missing is if someone is stripped of their citizenship... they no longer have any constitutional rights... As in the govt can treat you like a dog and there is nothing legal that can be done about it. Note the petition only said if you signed the petition... not anything more. Might want to think real hard about what a less than honest person would do with that power?
11-13-2012, 10:35 PM
Sicofthis

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Originally Posted by hydra

Everyone is forgetting one important point. Allowing Texas or any other state to secede,would surely cause panic on wall street and crash our fragile economy, sending investors scrambling and leaving Republicans, Democrats, and Independents penniless and destitute. I personally would not want that on my conscience. Also imagine the Taxes that Texas would need to collect to maintain interstates, bridges, schools, social security etc. Sorry to be Debbie Downer but let's face it, unless you have 40 acres and a mule and know how to use it and mason jars full of bullion buried beneath it, you are a slave to wall street and big government just like the rest of us!

They already pay for the roads schools and such.
11-13-2012, 10:36 PM
glennac

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Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech

What you are missing is if someone is stripped of their citizenship... they no longer have any constitutional rights... As in the govt can treat you like a dog and there is nothing legal that can be done about it. Note the petition only said if you signed the petition... not anything more. Might want to think real hard about what a less than honest person would do with that power?

How can they be stripped of their citizenship when they did not break a law. The first Amendment guarantees the right of free speech and the right to sign petitions. They did not take up arms. Thank you, thank you very much
11-13-2012, 10:38 PM
AStudent

Yeah....that won't happen, just like these secessions won't happen.

I hope.

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