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RLA 20A
LRA 120A
Thats what happens when you run twice the correct charge with a dirty evap!:gah:
If its pulling high amps then condemn the compressor
Its a matter of time before it fails
Check your volts when running? Bad contacor breaker disconnect? Tighten all connections check voltage drops across them and temps..
What he said. I had one start at normal amps then climb as it ran until it tripped. Boss thought I was crazy changing compressor but had no other ideas, then was happy when it fixed the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimj
It could be oil return. If you dont draw the oil back your amps will rise as it runs. It may start normal then rise up. I would be thinking that route.
I have heard some will mix in some POE to help draw mineral back?
I had a 5 ton Goodman with roughly the same issue the other day. It turned out to be a clogged filter drier in the bottom of the condenser, had to go all "Heels to Jesus" to swap it out. Not fun.
Ok, when you say discharge pressure, does that really mean liquid pressure?
Is there a internal filter drier in that cond unit?
If you are really measuring discharge pressure I think your going to need a new compressor.
I would verify you are not running backwards. Copeland has had a rash of compressors wired backwards from their labeling on the electrical housing. I recently found out the hard way.
How much different is discharge pressure from liquid line pressure?
P.s. changed the compressor and all is well
B1978 I think that you are on to something here. A scroll compressors life depends on oil and is not forgiving if it lack oil return. The symptoms here are very clear that that scrolls are locking up. A very common cause happens when that scrolls lack oil and grind on themselves. Once this happens its over and the problem only gets worse when you have fine metal fragments floating around. If this is the problem then the only solution is to R/R the compressor.Quote:
Originally Posted by B1978
The interesting part however is preventing the next failure, Many recommend the installation of an over sized Suction dryer, due to the fact that a standard 16 Cubic dryer will not pick up this fine particles in the system.
Air flow will also need to be checked, and if low this will cause oil migration to the evap coil.
As for mixing oil this is not recommended as 41O is a blend and requires the use of POE oil which has an Azeotropic behavior. If Mineral oil is mixed two separate liquids would form and oil loss will occur.
Completely agree with AlcoMech. Change compressor, install suction dryer. When you get it up and running, you must find what caused the comp failure, or you will be doing it again...just a matter of time.
Like I tell my guys constantly....Keep asking yourself.."why"!.. ;compressor failed?,why?... inadequate oil return?, why?..inadequate refrigerant flow?, why?...restricted refrigerant flow trapping oil?,why? etc.
We get paid to fix the problem, not just a symptom of the problem. :.02: