With a bad additude .... whats it matter :grin2:
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With a bad additude .... whats it matter :grin2:
I wish I worked with you, I'd take your hours :putergreet:Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePipeMan
As direct as he is, he is right :gah:Quote:
Originally Posted by zw17
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Originally Posted by zw17
He's kind of being a d*ck about it. But he's right. You're looking for an easy job where you can be lazy. This is a hard trade. You have to keep learning from the day you start until the day you retire. Everyday you learn something new. And if any tech tells you he knows everything he's lying or stupid.
Go to a mall and work at a clothing shop. That sound more up your alley if your main concern is having enough time off to play video games.
One good thing about the competitive job market. Lots of jobs in our local advertiser but all of them asking for skills of some sort or another. I could recommend you getting a job as a greeter at Wal Mart but it seems that even a number of them are older people. A lot of places where you would start out are looking for more than someone with a pulse. The first thing you have to do, is show up for work on time and show up every day. A little headache or something of the sort is not considered sick in the real world. IF you're lucky enough to get in the trades, you need to go in with the attitude that you know NOTHING. The more experienced guys will be glad to give you advice if you ask, and by doing that, you will save your self a lot of problems by not making the same mistakes that they made!!Quote:
Originally Posted by elran
You'll probably get home so tired out that playing a video game will be the last thing on your mind. There, now I can get off my soapbox!:angel::angel:
I am being a dick about it and for good reason. I go to school twice a week for continuing education, take all the tests and get all the certs I can to further my career. I want to be remembered as someone that gave their all in this trade, I strive to be the best at what I do and I want to better this trade as a whole.Quote:
Originally Posted by elran
The largest problem I see, and I see it A LOT, is hacks. We all need to step it up a notch to make this industry look better and make up for the guys that want to go home after 8hrs to get high and play video games.
For the record... I was that guy at the beginning of my career, so I have zero compassion for them now, if I can better myself so can they.
I find this statement interesting. You were that guy and yet you have no compassion for that guy to get started and maybe become a top notch mechanic. If there had been a forum like this when you were first starting out and you were basically told "Stay the hell away, we don't need no slackers." would you have stepped into the trade?Quote:
Originally Posted by zw17
Pointing out the fact that it takes hard work, dedication and a willingness to continually evolve and learn is important and it has been done on this thread. Let the OP decide for himself if he's got what it takes.
I commend your dedication to the trade. I'd rather see the pillars of the trade encourage young men to "step up their game" and get into the trade. Be honest and describe the challenges and also describe the rewards.
I got into the A/C business because I couldn't find a job for the life of me. And you know what the deciding factor was? I wore a jacket and tie to the interview. The guy who hired me said if I were serious enough to wear a jacket and tie to an interview for a $2.50/hr. job he knew I would take the job seriously. That was in November of 1972.
I hope it was 1972. Otherwise some serious labour laws have been broken :grin2:Quote:
Originally Posted by KnewYork
I had zero business being in the trade. I didn't deserve the job I had and I was a complete loser. In fact I dropped out of a good union apprenticeship program and went to non union residential.Quote:
Originally Posted by KnewYork
It took a few years to grow up, become a man, quit drugs, and now I am making up for that lost time with a vengeance, graduated a union apprentice program, taking extra classes, becoming a EMT, etc...
Sometimes it takes someone to tell you that you're a loser to realize your a loser.
lol. age and priorities. you cant shine **** but sometimes when the **** grows up, gets some more responsibilities and some mouths to feed they stop being **** and step up to the plate. Course other times, well the **** just stays ****.:grin2:Quote:
Originally Posted by zw17
I've been trying to go union for about a year now, maybe the company I work for just sucks but the grass must be a little bit greener?
looking back to the 70's through the 80's and early 90's i would disagree. a Blue collar trade was in high demand in most places. late 90s to 2005 the trades took a hit. But today i see a trend in the need for more skilled trades. people are realizing you can't fix your AC with a computer. With all that said, IMO a union that has good training and good reps is far better than the private sector overall. (if you can handle the politics) not to say there are exceptions. But remember if it wasn't for the unions the private sector wages would be less. The unions have always set the standards. That's a fact!Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePipeMan
Maybe if you could make your point without the use of four letter words we'd all understand what you are trying to convey. Even when substituting a word that begins with "S" and ends with "T" your statement doesn't make a whole lot of sense, so maybe I'm wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by bribrius