DWM Copeland with R407C

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10-25-2005, 01:07 PM
coolinnj

Hi all. I am working at a site that has a unit made my DWM Copeland. There is not to much information for this new install.

What I found out so far is that the nameplate says it takes R407C, And 40Kg of it.

It looks like this unit came from europe?

Best way to check for leaks? Vaccuum?

What is the avalibility of R407C?

Thanks.....
10-25-2005, 02:15 PM
wolfdog

United Refrigeration carries it in my area. Priced about like 410.

I have some process chillers out of Japan with 407c now.

....gauges in bars and pascals too.

It's a brave new world.
10-25-2005, 08:32 PM
smilies

If it's a new install and already leaking, why not call the contractor back?
10-25-2005, 08:41 PM
coolinnj

I don't know if it has any leaks yet.

It looks like they want me to perssurize it with nitrogen to 4bar and check for leaks.

In the automotive field we pulled a vacuum and see if it held for around one hour or longer (overnight) if you had the time.

This unit was made in europe for there is not to much information on it.

Thanks for the replies.
09-07-2006, 02:42 AM
The Saint

DWM Copeland are made from Europe

You may pressurize the system with Nitrogen.

Evacuate the system down to 0.3 mbar

R407C are available as an HFC alternative to R22

[Edited by cesarcolomaiii on 09-07-2006 at 08:52 AM]
09-07-2006, 03:32 PM
barty

Quote:

Originally posted by coolinnj
I don't know if it has any leaks yet.

It looks like they want me to perssurize it with nitrogen to 4bar and check for leaks.

In the automotive field we pulled a vacuum and see if it held for around one hour or longer (overnight) if you had the time.

This unit was made in europe for there is not to much information on it.

Thanks for the replies.

4 bar- what's that gonna prove -the suction runs higher than that

Cheers

Richard
09-11-2006, 04:11 AM
The Saint

Quote:

Originally posted by barty

Quote:

Originally posted by coolinnj
I don't know if it has any leaks yet.

It looks like they want me to perssurize it with nitrogen to 4bar and check for leaks.

In the automotive field we pulled a vacuum and see if it held for around one hour or longer (overnight) if you had the time.
This unit was made in europe for there is not to much information on it.
Thanks for the replies.

4 bar- what's that gonna prove -the suction runs higher than that

Cheers
Richard

its about 59 psig and suction pressure can reach as high as that. whats the model #?

[Edited by The Saint on 09-11-2006 at 04:36 AM]
09-11-2006, 07:05 PM
nrd

DWV COPELAND WITH R407C

OPERATES AT 4BAR TO 4 AND A QUATER BACK PRESSURE /HEAD OF 17 TO 25 BAR DEPENDS ON LOAD .PRESSURE TEST TO OPERATING PRESSURES TO CONFIRM LEAKS. BY THE WAY MAKE SURE YOU LIQUIDE CHARGE AS R407C HAS 3 DIFFERENT GASES TO MAKE ONE.KNOWN AS R407C
08-11-2007, 11:58 AM
referman 1

retrofit from 22 to 407

Good morn techs!!I have a New Data Aire split.It came in pinched and brazed from the factory?It was in stalled by pipe fitters.Name plate says r-22,but the gov. wants all systems changed and they want 407..It has a cop-scroll 1.5 ton compressor..The sight glass has already started turning so we know what I got to do there,flush system nitro,chg dryer, chk no leaks,pull vac..My major concern is after reading around is the oil change..I will have to cut out the scroll and dump the oil,but will i get enough oil out.I have not used this 407 yet but the place im working is expecting another 20-30 of the same NDA systems.I would like to get it right the first time.Tryin to get the manuf but they seem to be busy all the time..
08-11-2007, 12:12 PM
aircooled53

R407c-The C-hina

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Just another import from our allies in China. :mad:

Feature:
1) Pressure is close to HCFC-22, therefore comparatively large design changes are no needed.
2) Theoretical COP of 97% compared to HCFC-22 (system COP test sample of optimized system = 99%)
3) Zeotropic, need liquid charging etc. Therefore special handling precautions needed
4) composition: HFC-32, 125 and 134a
5) Applications: Air-conditioning systems, room air-conditioning and refrigeration equipment for food storage.

Property of chloride
1) Molecular weight: 86.2
2) Boiling Point: -43.6°C
3) Critical temperature: 85.62°C
4) Critical pressure: 4.613MPa
5) Density of saturated liquid: 1.136g/m?
6) Specific heat of liquid: 1.554kJ/kg. K
7) ODP: 0
8) Vaporization heat under BP: 250.3kJ/kg

Quality standards:
1) Purity: 99.9%
2) Moisture: 15 Max massppm
3) Acidity: 1 Max massppm
4) Residue on evaporation: 15 Max massppm
5) Feature: Colorless, no cloudy, no smell.
08-13-2007, 05:24 PM
referman 1

DWM Copeland with 407c

Thanks for the info Aircooled53..I have also found out that the cope-scroll has already got poe oil,so the change over should not be so bad.Thanks again for the specs...