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Noob with Spyder ILC

Hello,

I have a Spyder ILC and a niagara AX platform (TES - Trend).

Normally I don't need spyder tool or other, right?

I can discover the spyder but that's all, I can't configure or add physical points.
If I try to add physical point (for example: BacnetDevice -> Config -> AI) I have a fault, cause: Object:Unknown Object.


FYI, I don't pass the spyder training.

Noob with Spyder

Hello,

I have a Spyder ILC and a niagara AX platform (TES - Trend).

Normally I don't need spyder tool or other, right?

I can discover the spyder but that's all, I can't configure or add physical points.
If I try to add physical point (for example: BacnetDevice -> Config -> AI) I have a fault, cause: Object:Unknown Object.


FYI, I don't pass the spyder training.

Thanks for the help. I'm going to try the Webcast that you suggested mechmike2.

Thanks again

Originally Posted by digo

Easy there buddy, that image helped shape what the spyderTool is today. Yes the hardware awesome, but the software took a little while to get there...

Which one of these versions have you had the joy of dealing with?
1.16.1
1.18.4
2.0.5
2.0.8
3.1.1
3.1.3
3.1.7
4.6.0
4.8.3
4.8.8
4.9.1
5.18
5.19.6
5.201

There is a new one coming out in a couple weeks FYI. 5.204

Originally Posted by wherzamizat

Spyders are awesome controllers. Don't appreciate the attempted humor with the product bashing. Its unprofessional and mean.

Easy there buddy, that image helped shape what the spyderTool is today. Yes the hardware awesome, but the software took a little while to get there...

Which one of these versions have you had the joy of dealing with?
1.16.1
1.18.4
2.0.5
2.0.8
3.1.1
3.1.3
3.1.7
4.6.0
4.8.3
4.8.8
4.9.1
5.18
5.19.6
5.201

Spyder

Also take care to know which Rev controller you have, look for a side ways 2 on the sticker next to the part number on the side. If this is there then you may need to flash it back to work with your spyder tool. You will be able to commission it just not load it. I am an old BC network 8000 guy and love the spyders. I don't care what line you work with, there is always room for improvements but the spyders have worked solid for me and the company I work for. I took the class and it shortened the learning curve considerably for me.

Spyder

Originally Posted by mechmike2

If your using 3.6 then you should be using the latest spyder tool and you have to put controller in engineering mode to do anything with it. Right click controller and pick engineering mode. There is a good webcast on Buildings Forum on the new spyder tool.

When I read the release notes for the latest Spyder Tool version I seriously considered changing jobs to get away from this product.

If your using 3.6 then you should be using the latest spyder tool and you have to put controller in engineering mode to do anything with it. Right click controller and pick engineering mode. There is a good webcast on Buildings Forum on the new spyder tool.

Originally Posted by theoldman

The Spyder Tool has a lot of problems. I thought the old systems I worked on were bad. Honeywell is not providing the required resources to this product.

Don't get me/others started on the lack of resources here....

Spyder

Originally Posted by ControlsInMT

Easy there man. I don't see where anyone said there weren't. What was said is that you don't just pick one up and plug it in. There is quite a bit of learning to get the hang of them.

The Spyder Tool has a lot of problems. I thought the old systems I worked on were bad. Honeywell is not providing the required resources to this product.

Originally Posted by wherzamizat

Spyders are awesome controllers. Don't appreciate the attempted humor with the product bashing. Its unprofessional and mean.

Easy there man. I don't see where anyone said there weren't. What was said is that you don't just pick one up and plug it in. There is quite a bit of learning to get the hang of them.

Originally Posted by Chris_Worthington

Perhaps this will help to depict the learning curve ahead of you?

Attachment 312051

Spyders are awesome controllers. Don't appreciate the attempted humor with the product bashing. Its unprofessional and mean.

Originally Posted by lwarren

Ah yes, that is the one I was referring to.

I have version 3.6.31 and WOW what a curve!!!

Ah yes, that is the one I was referring to.

Perhaps this will help to depict the learning curve ahead of you?

Attachment 312051

Originally Posted by Deltaforce

Thanks for responding T-Ranger...I have a spyder with a test honeywell ax that I have in a demo panel. Yes I have the spyder tool but it seems to be more for Lon not Bacnet. I know that the class is the best way to go but I like to play with controllers because I feel I can learn more than in a classroom environment. Is it really hard to learn if you don't take the class??

There is a picture that depicts the learning curve associated with the Spyder, but I can't find it at the moment. Im sure Digo can post it. But to answer your question, it is not going to be real easy to learn very quickly. I started messing with the Spyder when it first came out before having training and it took some time to get proficient with it.

What version of the tool are do you currently have loaded?

If you are using the latest spyder tool you have to put the controller in engineering mode to access the control program.

Looks like it is just in the Venom.

Is there not a jar file for LON and for BACnet or is that just in the Venom (I think)?

Thanks for responding T-Ranger...I have a spyder with a test honeywell ax that I have in a demo panel. Yes I have the spyder tool but it seems to be more for Lon not Bacnet. I know that the class is the best way to go but I like to play with controllers because I feel I can learn more than in a classroom environment. Is it really hard to learn if you don't take the class??