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  • 09-05-2011, 12:52 PM
    timebuilder
    Quote Originally Posted by b26440510 View Post
    I would imagine there can be significant differences between US codes and Canadian codes and guidelines.
    Yes. In most respects, Canada is more restrictive in the world of codes. They are not the same as Codes in the US.

    While a dryer vent might not be correct in Georgia, it is most likely correct in Canada.
  • 09-05-2011, 12:38 PM
    b26440510
    Quote Originally Posted by acwizard View Post
    I watch his show anytime I get a chance. I find it entertaining but not always accurate.The sad thing is that the viewers for the most part do not know the difference.Besides the error of fpm and cfm, I loved the fact that the dryer vent was reinstalled incorrectly to code as well.His show has so many code violations that I enjoy watching it to see how many violations there are going to be in each episode. Mike is sold on spray-on insulation and solving all of these types of insulating problems.There are so many errors when it comes to vapor barriers,mold and condensation that it is rather quite amuzing. I certainly would not consider myself an expert in all phases of construction but after spending 33 years I do know enough to ask the right questions. I will continue watching his shows but the editors need to check the accuracy before releasing the episodes.
    I would imagine there can be significant differences between US codes and Canadian codes and guidelines.
  • 09-05-2011, 11:06 AM
    acwizard
    I watch his show anytime I get a chance. I find it entertaining but not always accurate.The sad thing is that the viewers for the most part do not know the difference.Besides the error of fpm and cfm, I loved the fact that the dryer vent was reinstalled incorrectly to code as well.His show has so many code violations that I enjoy watching it to see how many violations there are going to be in each episode. Mike is sold on spray-on insulation and solving all of these types of insulating problems.There are so many errors when it comes to vapor barriers,mold and condensation that it is rather quite amuzing. I certainly would not consider myself an expert in all phases of construction but after spending 33 years I do know enough to ask the right questions. I will continue watching his shows but the editors need to check the accuracy before releasing the episodes.
  • 09-05-2011, 09:53 AM
    timebuilder
    Quote Originally Posted by udarrell View Post
    That was excellent voice over, you should be in demand.
    Are you a hunter, too?

    When at the college, I did TV productions including writing the script, the story board, directing & operating the board & calling camera shots at the same time for one show; however, even when using voice-overs, the content needs to be accurate.

    Actually, it was the H-VAC guy that said the numbers he was looking at were CFM when those numbers were actually FPM velocity. That totally misinforms anyone watching that show. Mike Holmes wouldn't allow those gross errors in other areas of his expertise.

    In the last show Sunday, 09/04/2011, they they did similar if not the same airflow checks & never said what the numbers were. It was a rerun, so did they edit the part out?
    It IS possible.

    I would bet that Mike is critical of the production quality, but he is not a production OR an HVAC guy. It is SO easy for too many cooks to make things go awry in any production. The continuity person is supposed to catch these problems in film production, but if you look at the IMDB site, many major films have a list of "flubs."

    In the Deer Off spot, I really enjoyed the performance of the woman. She reminded me of Jane Curtin.

    I used to do a little hunting, but not much time to go out in recent years....
  • 09-05-2011, 09:31 AM
    udarrell
    That was excellent voice over, you should be in demand.
    Are you a hunter, too?

    When at the college, I did TV productions including writing the script, the story board, directing & operating the board & calling camera shots at the same time for one show; however, even when using voice-overs, the content needs to be accurate.

    Actually, it was the H-VAC guy that said the numbers he was looking at were CFM when those numbers were actually FPM velocity. That totally misinforms anyone watching that show. Mike Holmes wouldn't allow those gross errors in other areas of his expertise.

    In the last show Sunday, 09/04/2011, they they did similar if not the same airflow checks & never said what the numbers were. It was a rerun, so did they edit the part out?
  • 09-05-2011, 08:00 AM
    timebuilder
    Quote Originally Posted by udarrell View Post
    He was reading FPM & calling it CFM because it would have been impossible to deliver that much CFM through that duct & diffuser.

    The velocity would have been astronomical; check the numbers that were given as CFM.
    Here is how a show (any show like this) is shot.

    There is the initial technical setup, where devices and tools are discussed, and the actual readings are taken, and a a sketch of the dialog to be spoken is made up.

    Then, some time later (sometimes very much later) the crew is brought in (camera, lighting, mics) and the scene is shot with some live audio recorded. Often, the scene is edited later so that it appears that the host is speaking while standing near the tool, device, AC register, what have you, when actually, it was done later in an ADR studio at a mic in a sound booth.

    My point is that the CFM reading was probably made BEFORE those scenes were shot, and the director just said "turn it on and talk about numbers" so that it represented the previously obtained data.

    Directors and editors are NOT HVAC pros, nor do they care if FPM is being discussed by the guys on camera while saying "CFM."

    There is always a schism between what is being shown and what is being said. Sometimes it is very minor. Sometimes, a guy with training like you or me might notice, "hey! That's feet per minute, not CFM, DUH!!!"

    But on TV, it's not a big deal.

    How do I know this?


    My second major was film and TV. I did radio over a span of 19 years, and I still do a lot of voiceover work. In the past 6 months, I worked on two projects for medical stuff that had three separate re-writes to get everyone satisfied. It happens.

    Here is my favorite project from 2009. I'm the voice over.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKBJSS7VtDw
  • 09-04-2011, 10:35 PM
    udarrell
    Quote Originally Posted by timebuilder View Post
    Although the anemometers were displaying FPM, they are capable of displaying CFM, and that was probably the basis of the narration about the duct CFM.

    I believe he is using a unit like this:

    http://www.testersandtools.com/Gener...-RS-Output.php
    He was reading FPM & calling it CFM because it would have been impossible to deliver that much CFM through that duct & diffuser.

    The velocity would have been astronomical; check the numbers that were given as CFM.
  • 09-04-2011, 08:32 PM
    timebuilder
    Although the anemometers were displaying FPM, they are capable of displaying CFM, and that was probably the basis of the narration about the duct CFM.

    I believe he is using a unit like this:

    http://www.testersandtools.com/Gener...-RS-Output.php
  • 08-24-2011, 09:58 AM
    jmac00
    Quote Originally Posted by mbhydro View Post
    What Mike is doing now is fixing houses that have problems, and have had a home inspector come through before the house was bought.

    Mike first shows where the paid inspectors did not find the obvious problems the customers are calling him into fix.

    After those problems are found taking down some drywall finds a lot more problems, usually with the foundation.

    For the last few seasons, people would just apply to the producers saying they have a bad house and can Mike come fix it.

    He is also franchising "Mike Holmes Inspections" offices in Canada to do inspections to his high standards. Time will tell if his franchises are as detail orientated as he is.
    so basically he is trashing home inspectors???? Like that's a challenge
  • 08-24-2011, 09:47 AM
    airtime
    He's an expert on everything and everyone else (that did previous work on the house) is an idiot. When he's wrong he sure does it with conviction, makes people believe he knows what he's talking about.
  • 08-22-2011, 07:58 PM
    mbhydro
    What Mike is doing now is fixing houses that have problems, and have had a home inspector come through before the house was bought.

    Mike first shows where the paid inspectors did not find the obvious problems the customers are calling him into fix.

    After those problems are found taking down some drywall finds a lot more problems, usually with the foundation.

    For the last few seasons, people would just apply to the producers saying they have a bad house and can Mike come fix it.

    He is also franchising "Mike Holmes Inspections" offices in Canada to do inspections to his high standards. Time will tell if his franchises are as detail orientated as he is.
  • 08-22-2011, 06:51 PM
    HeyBob
    It appears that it's Holmes Inspection now instead of Holmes on Homes, anyone know what's up?
  • 08-22-2011, 04:46 PM
    jmac00
    [QUOTE=Cool_Air;11105622]He's going behind people that do SORRY WORK he may not know everything but he's on top of most. I live in the southeast and a lot of the A/C work here stinks,the old saying pay me now or pay me later holds true around here. It cost a little more but the home owners are real happy,but cost around here is everything.[/QUOTE]

    thats doesn't make any sense? Let me get this right, People in your market are very happy about paying for a repair twice?

    Are these people just uneducated or truly stupid
  • 08-22-2011, 04:38 PM
    Cool_Air

    Mike is usely right

    Quote Originally Posted by jeremy-lvhm View Post
    Yeah mike is a blowhard sometimes. But he is a good guy and I like the show. He still makes mistakes but we all do. I got irritated when he put Teflon tape on threads for sink connectors. Saying it's better to have the extra sealing. Lol. Threads aren't sealing anything. Oh well. He tries. Lol

    He is a carpenter at the end of the day.
    He's going behind people that do SORRY WORK he may not know everything but he's on top of most. I live in the southeast and a lot of the A/C work here stinks,the old saying pay me now or pay me later holds true around here. It cost a little more but the home owners are real happy,but cost around here is everything.
  • 08-20-2011, 07:22 AM
    bjd
    I agree the guy is such a "Chest Banger" and gets off on finding things that really do not matter
  • 08-19-2011, 08:48 PM
    hvacvegas
    I would watch a HVAC-talk reality show, with Seaton as the "The situation" of the group.
  • 08-19-2011, 08:47 PM
    pacnw
    I have gone onto his website and made some comments on other things not "Right" and never had a response.

    guess he is "Right" and we are some of those who"... just don't know what we are doing..."
  • 08-19-2011, 05:00 PM
    MechAcc
    I would watch a Twilly reality HVAC show
  • 08-19-2011, 04:56 PM
    MechAcc
    Quote Originally Posted by bmathews View Post
    Isn't it the truth? It makes you wanna go out and kick ass. He has a brand. If you watch his credits when the show was over. He has a clothing line as well. Yep, he's expensive and probably better than 50% of the builders and GC's anybody has worked with on here. But it's friggin' reality tv. He's got us talking about him, thereby generating more internet buzz and he's selling more expensive coveralls because of that. The dude that moved in the home was happy as hell. So he did his job.
    Just think what Dave Lennox could do.
  • 08-19-2011, 04:39 PM
    MechAcc
    Quote Originally Posted by ampulman View Post
    Yeh, like Alec Baldwin 'played a pilot' before.
    Yes and they didn't get that right either James Doolittle did not become a Brigadier General until after the Tokyo Raid. He was a Colonel during the time frame that they made the movie Pearl Harbor. Another Hollywood liberty with truth along with believing that fighter pilots inexperienced in bombers would be selected for the raid.
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