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Originally Posted by coolwhip

You must be a beaner...

AND PROUD OF IT

You must be a beaner...

Originally Posted by coolwhip

Getting rid of NAFTA & CAFTA would be a good place to start.

You must be a fan of Ross Perot! that giant sucking sound of jobs flowing south to Mejico never materialized, NAFTA was a joke to Mexican farmers it destroyed whatever livehood they had, and most fled north as illegals, China is detroying the US economy, " Example" Mexico was No 1 exporter of all types of beans *no joke" and hot peppers, no more China has that title now , walking through any open Mejican market you see it, serranos grown locally 10 pesos kilo, Chinese serranos 6 pesos kilo. NAFTA AND CAFTA are not our problems its China and Waltmat, but mainly us the cunsumer who are now in a bad economy and forced to buy chinese cause its cheaper.
its time to head west to Calif and join the Mariguana Inc, craze that's where the money is.

Getting rid of NAFTA & CAFTA would be a good place to start.

Just gotta love the chinese quality too. Had a Haier with an out of balance blower wheel, after ordering two, it was still out of balance....We have lost it in this country as a manufacturing mecca.

Everyone wants to be a "financial advisor" and spend all day talking people into depositing their money with them. AND THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING, except deposit your money into an account and assure you its doing fine and you don't have to move it.

Good quote TB, and very apropos !

I jusr wanted to start him thinking about how all of our well-intended policies have "priced us out" of the manufacturing sector. It's not intended to be all-inclusive.

Originally Posted by timebuilder

Actually, WE shipped all our jobs to China.




They have none of our costs.



No litigation.

No NAACP.

No NOW.

No ADA.

No OSHA.

No SSI.

No Medicare.

No Part D.

No Social S.

No EPA.

No Trial Lawyers.

No Affirmative Action.

What we DO have here is a desire to buy cheap goods. A US manufacturer of Khakis pegged his price with a little profit at over $60.

The Dokker's price? Less than half the US made price.

Now I have to tell ya, George Bush didn't bring ANY of this into existence.

So, when you wonder where our jobs went and why, you now have a list of folks with a lot of good intentions to start writing letters to.







The road to H*ll is paved with good intentions.


.

Man you skipped illegal immigration, and worst of all, them poor chinese don't have HVAC TALK to crack bad jokes with their AC comrades once in awhile

Originally Posted by coolestacman

george w shipped all your jobs to china

Actually, WE shipped all our jobs to China.




They have none of our costs.



No litigation.

No NAACP.

No NOW.

No ADA.

No OSHA.

No SSI.

No Medicare.

No Part D.

No Social S.

No EPA.

No Trial Lawyers.

No Affirmative Action.

What we DO have here is a desire to buy cheap goods. A US manufacturer of Khakis pegged his price with a little profit at over $60.

The Dokker's price? Less than half the US made price.

Now I have to tell ya, George Bush didn't bring ANY of this into existence.

So, when you wonder where our jobs went and why, you now have a list of folks with a lot of good intentions to start writing letters to.







The road to H*ll is paved with good intentions.


.

Originally Posted by beshvac

My wife lost her job 9 years ago to india (computer programmer) I am not living in a country I am proud of anymore.....

....but Michelle and Oprah are proud.








How's that workin' out for us?



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Originally Posted by eboireau

Its been well over a year since both our current president and and our former president stated that the jobs were on the way and that green building projects were going to be greenlit.

Yet after all this time since the supposed stimulus bill was passed to help alleviate the unemployment situation by investing in energy efficient building projects and good honest hard working people have been waiting on the side lines to supply the labor force to make it happen... we get nothing.

it seems all this cash for "shovel ready" projects has gone into some sort of black hole to make sure the fat cats pockets are still lined.

Does anyone have any forcasting as to when companies will start to hire back its workforce so we can start rebuilding and actually making things again?

I am an extremely bright young individual ready to get to work to help rebuild this great nation, but I cant even get businesses to return phone calls about potential oppourtunities. I also see alot of threads in this section from other good people looking to get to work as well. but noone is looking to restaff or fill its supposed voids left by an increasingly aging workforce. Its extremely frustrating!

And all we get is sqabbling up on capitol hill! no decisions=no jobs=no hope.

My first temptation is to ask you if you really believed that there would be all those so-called "green jobs."

Maybe you just "hoped," like a lot of people.

There are good reasons there are no jobs coming to life.

Chief among them is the fact that no employer knows what it will cost to hire someone. Will they be forced to insure them? Will they face additional taxes? Will the out of control spending and deficits force the Chinese to cut us off, and stop buying our Treasury bills? That could happen, and if it does, there WILL be another Great Depression.

And yes, this is the first Congress and Presidency that has demonstrated such a woeful lack of understanding of the value of our economic system.

So, if we make it to the end of this administration, or at least until January 2013 when we will have a lot of new faces in the House and Senate, businesses will have some degree of certainty that we will not be having a parade celebrating Marx and Lenin.

It is a problem that has been in the works for a long time. I dont think any one administration can be held accountable. unfourtunatly no administration has done anything yet to right the ship.

My wife lost her job 9 years ago to india (computer programmer) I am not living in a country I am proud of anymore.....

Originally Posted by coolestacman

george w shipped all your jobs to china

Yeah in 8 yrs GB shipped all those jobs overseas. You're an idiot my friend. Jobs have been going overseas for awhile now. Lets just blame Bush for BO not focusing on the economy for last YEAR, while he was trying to force a single payer system down our throats.

george w shipped all your jobs to china

The so called green jobs are in California and Mejico, a huge weed supply warehouse opened in Oakland CA for those who want to be weed farmers, also gringos can lease land in Sinaloa for cheap, just for the purpose of investing in agro-weeed ,who said Obama isn't delivering!!!! Weed from Calif and Mejico growns greener didn't you know.

If you want to know what a politician is really doing.... follow the money trail (google). Look for who was promised what, and who wants to be paid off for helping elect the person in office.

Warning: This may provoke extreme tempers...

Originally Posted by eboireau

Its been well over a year since both our current president and and our former president stated that the jobs were on the way and that green building projects were going to be greenlit.

Yet after all this time since the supposed stimulus bill was passed to help alleviate the unemployment situation by investing in energy efficient building projects and good honest hard working people have been waiting on the side lines to supply the labor force to make it happen... we get nothing.

it seems all this cash for "shovel ready" projects has gone into some sort of black hole to make sure the fat cats pockets are still lined.

Does anyone have any forcasting as to when companies will start to hire back its workforce so we can start rebuilding and actually making things again?

I am an extremely bright young individual ready to get to work to help rebuild this great nation, but I cant even get businesses to return phone calls about potential oppourtunities. I also see alot of threads in this section from other good people looking to get to work as well. but noone is looking to restaff or fill its supposed voids left by an increasingly aging workforce. Its extremely frustrating!

And all we get is sqabbling up on capitol hill! no decisions=no jobs=no hope.

Hi;
Great post, it always seems when we get promised things, it always takes at least 5 to 10 years before anything takes affect after a bill is passed there is alot of great people out there with out a job, with way better experience and education that I have. It is frustrating when you spend good hard earned money on a good education, and all the money on getting certified to get good jobs to provide for our families. I fill what your stepping in and it does get frustrating, I am my shelf looking for a good job in the HVAC world, all we can do is just keep our heads high, and we need to keep pushing towards our dreams, good luck, and I hope you keep fighting the fight...

sorry, I had to get that off my chest.

anyone care to chime in? im interested in other folks looking for work out there

RANT: Wheres all the green collar jobs?

Its been well over a year since both our current president and and our former president stated that the jobs were on the way and that green building projects were going to be greenlit.

Yet after all this time since the supposed stimulus bill was passed to help alleviate the unemployment situation by investing in energy efficient building projects and good honest hard working people have been waiting on the side lines to supply the labor force to make it happen... we get nothing.

it seems all this cash for "shovel ready" projects has gone into some sort of black hole to make sure the fat cats pockets are still lined.

Does anyone have any forcasting as to when companies will start to hire back its workforce so we can start rebuilding and actually making things again?

I am an extremely bright young individual ready to get to work to help rebuild this great nation, but I cant even get businesses to return phone calls about potential oppourtunities. I also see alot of threads in this section from other good people looking to get to work as well. but noone is looking to restaff or fill its supposed voids left by an increasingly aging workforce. Its extremely frustrating!

And all we get is sqabbling up on capitol hill! no decisions=no jobs=no hope.