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Originally Posted by supertek65

Entertaining is not necessarily a bad thing?

Yea, I took it as a complement.

Entertaining is not necessarily a bad thing?

Originally Posted by toocoolforschool

Just to let you know I would hire you in a minute because you are very hungry. You appear to be very sharp and even arrogant which is all okay just remember the bigger they are the harder they fall. Unfortunatly not everything goes by the book, that's what makes this buisiness so special, Keep up the good post they are entertaining.

Thank you. Glad I can entertain everyone, yea I wish I got into this field a long time ago.

[QUOTE=HVAC-matt;14277801][QUOTE=sto2299001;14267331]Lets see. This particular photo was taken while running a third party call. As per their contract request any time a service tech uses more than 1lb of r-22 they demand the use of seal leak. The seal leak which runs for $48 is a far better option than replacing the outdoor condensing unit or A coil. Just happens this fixed the problem. Leak seal is great!!QUOTE]

I was taught that the only thing that should be in a system is refrigerant and oil. I understand that is what the contract says but have you seen any units a few years after you use it? I wouldnt swear by that crap, not trying to bust balls but just saying the best way to fix a leak is to repair it the right way. Finding it with Nitrogen and bubbles and repairing it with braze.[/QUOtrue

true.

Typical

Originally Posted by toocoolforschool

classic.

classic.

Originally Posted by Joehvac25

My bosses kid was telling me he would be running the company in 10 years and so far all he is good at is calling in sick and picking up after me.


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Originally Posted by sto2299001

Lets see. This particular photo was taken while running a third party call. As per their contract request any time a service tech uses more than 1lb of r-22 they demand the use of seal leak. The seal leak which runs for $48 is a far better option than replacing the outdoor condensing unit or A coil. Just happens this fixed the problem. Leak seal is great!! And they swear by it. If I can run a call and be done in 15 minutes then I much rather do that then use my leak detector and go into an attic, or having to use nitrogen or leak spray..etc. And as I mentioned this particular "third party" company demands the use of it...

As for my arm dangling over the unit, way to be a smart ass..not like I was putting weight on it..

I know you dig my safety glasses, looking good on the job ...PRICELESS!

Just to let you know I would hire you in a minute because you are very hungry. You appear to be very sharp and even arrogant which is all okay just remember the bigger they are the harder they fall. Unfortunatly not everything goes by the book, that's what makes this buisiness so special, Keep up the good post they are entertaining.

My bosses kid was telling me he would be running the company in 10 years and so far all he is good at is calling in sick and picking up after me.


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[QUOTE=sto2299001;14267331]Lets see. This particular photo was taken while running a third party call. As per their contract request any time a service tech uses more than 1lb of r-22 they demand the use of seal leak. The seal leak which runs for $48 is a far better option than replacing the outdoor condensing unit or A coil. Just happens this fixed the problem. Leak seal is great!!QUOTE]

I was taught that the only thing that should be in a system is refrigerant and oil. I understand that is what the contract says but have you seen any units a few years after you use it? I wouldnt swear by that crap, not trying to bust balls but just saying the best way to fix a leak is to repair it the right way. Finding it with Nitrogen and bubbles and repairing it with braze.

Ok, maybe I exaggerated ,but can't blame someone for being gun ho.



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Thanks for the advice

I don't think it is "negitive" to point out you won't be running your Dad's company in 3-4 years. If you think it sucks now, just wait another 3-4 years. It will only get worse. It wasn't negitivity, rather reality.

I too am gung ho about getting my hands dirty. However, I realize I won't be making good money for some time, IF I take the cookie cutter route like everyone else does. I have another way of getting the experience and skills, without taking it in the wallet. If you too want to run YOUR own company, you have to stop thinking like an employee. Set your OWN goals, not goals that everyone else sets for you.

If your goal is to run someone else's company, then there is no way you will have enough experience, nor will you gain the respect of your fellow co-workers in that little of a period of time. There is a reason the salesmen don't get sent out to change out A-coils.

Thanks for your input, but you can't predict my growth in the industry based on your experiences. I appreciate any positive criticism, but making negative inferences is a waste.

3-4 years? Good luck!! I've been doing this 10 years, taught it for 1.5 and I'm still learning new stuff every day. If you think you can take over everything in 3-4 years, you're delusional. Especially when you have 4 threads goin about how miserable you are working with your father.



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Originally Posted by leaker2

Take what ever you can get. Sucks.at first, but pays off later. Im 7 or so months in doing hvac work and getting 11 / hr. Having to deal with a super tech who lies and manipulates owners to look better and shows pics of anything and everything he thinks i do wrong. But i just take it and do my best as someday i can be the real supertech and not have to fake it. Most wont hire under 2 yrs exp. Takes 5 years for a comp. To trust and make $ on your work supposedly. Keep humble and learn all ya can. And beat on the doors till someone hires ya.

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I have an apprenticeship now and feel very fortunate, hoping to run this company in 3-4 years.

Originally Posted by toocoolforschool

Well lets see: You have your safety glasses on that's worth ten bucks an hour. As far as your arm dangling over a running unit not good, back to 9 buks an hour, leak repair in pocket-FAIL.

Lets see. This particular photo was taken while running a third party call. As per their contract request any time a service tech uses more than 1lb of r-22 they demand the use of seal leak. The seal leak which runs for $48 is a far better option than replacing the outdoor condensing unit or A coil. Just happens this fixed the problem. Leak seal is great!! And they swear by it. If I can run a call and be done in 15 minutes then I much rather do that then use my leak detector and go into an attic, or having to use nitrogen or leak spray..etc. And as I mentioned this particular "third party" company demands the use of it...

As for my arm dangling over the unit, way to be a smart ass..not like I was putting weight on it..

I know you dig my safety glasses, looking good on the job ...PRICELESS!

Bigger companies like Source and Linc, McQuay, Trane, when they're non-union pay about $3/Hr. above the comparable UA entry Apprentice. I guy I sent to Source started at $18/Hr, which is $3/Hr. over the 1st year Apprentice equivalent. Good luck seeing $1/Hr. per year increase though.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by toocoolforschool

Well lets see: You have your safety glasses on that's worth ten bucks an hour. As far as your arm dangling over a running unit not good, back to 9 buks an hour, leak repair in pocket-FAIL.

Originally Posted by sto2299001

From your experience what is a decent weekly salary for a HVAC apprentice? also do you have benefits etc?

Well lets see: You have your safety glasses on that's worth ten bucks an hour. As far as your arm dangling over a running unit not good, back to 9 buks an hour, leak repair in pocket-FAIL.

I started off in the OKC metro area at $11.50, then $15 after a year, up to $17.50 after some time there. There's a ceiling after that that's hard to get past.