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You guys can blow the boycott whistle if you want to but here is how I handle it.

Get the address and then ask to come by and look at the job. If I can't talk them out of it then I will turn it into the city for no permit. Because I guarantee you the contractor that does end up stooping that low won't pull one. In rural areas I can't do much about it.

How many lbs is that??????hmmmm

I was parusing the classifieds in my hometowm paper and noticed an add for "30 gallon tank of R-22, $40" It went on to say you would need to be EPA certified for purchase. But what a deal 30 gallons for $40.

SPOTTS; How about going to a call cust. says we threw out the other company and we want you guys to make this system right. You do the work and hand them a bill and they say the other company is responsible bill them. Learned the hard way now i always get a letter from cust. authorising payment.

Originally posted by benncool


I am thinking of starting a new website called "HVAC/R Contractors Against Internet Sales."

Your opinions????????????? [/B]

Remember me telling you about "Modular Homes" Benn? Whole finished house, on a semi, delivered to your lot. Then the Coleman furnace goes out. Company will tell the H/O "call a furnace guy, tell him it's under warranty". I tell them "It's not under warranty through me. I have to be paid by you for parts and labor, upfront. You'll have to fight with the installing company for any re-imbursement. Not me."

Another e-bay special tonight. Guys trying to sell a slightly used Trane Heap pump. He said he will include a case of r-22 with the purchase.

Just how much r-22 is in a case? Not a thing is mentioned about having to have any type of certification for the purchase.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by benncool

Originally posted by spotts

[Reminds me of an old saying.


"She can't wrestle..... but ya aughta see her box!"

My Dad used to tell that one. Another one he always said was, "If your girlfriend don't drink liquior."

Or when a young girl comes up pregnant before she's married..... "Them girls are always taking serious what the boys are poking at them for fun...."

On a serious note. We discussed this earlier. I would like to see a resolution posted which would be signed by responsible HVAC/R contractors. The resolution should read something like:

We, who are reputible HVAC/R contractors, declare that our companies,staff or agents will not install, service or inspect any heat tranfer equipment that was purchased by the end user over the internet.

Nor will we handle any warranty for any manufacturer who sells to the end user over the internet. (signed)

I am thinking of starting a new website called "HVAC/R Contractors Against Internet Sales." This site could list all who signed the 'declaration'. It could post horror stories about HOs who got burnt by these sleasy manufacturers. Of couse it could list the names of manufacturers who deal in these under handed practices. It could list State and Local codes which would make this practice illegal.

Your opinions?????????????

[QUOTE]Originally posted by spotts

[Reminds me of an old saying.


"She can't wrestle..... but ya aughta see her box!"

My Dad used to tell that one. Another one he always said was, "If your girlfriend don't drink liquior."

Originally posted by vmc1161
SPOTTS; If said farmer has said daughter don't let dice know.

Nope he's a young dude. Said girlfriend would be fun to wrestle.



Reminds me of an old saying.


"She can't wrestle..... but ya aughta see her box!"

SPOTTS; If said farmer has said daughter don't let dice know.

SPOTTS Did that farmer have a daughter

DICE; Was at the supermarket just turned 50, my middle son points out an article in one of those rags they sell at the check out counter. It said latent homosexual tendency appears by age 50, son says to me dad you've got a year.I'd kick his arse if he wasn't a marine.

The way I handled 1 of these.

Farmer said....... I got this furnace at an auction....... (wore out Heil 80% from a body shop, all plugged up)..... how much to put it in?

Bid read install your furnace $XXXX.XX No warranty

Install a new 80% furnace $XXXX.XX ($10 bucks more) full warranty.



I didn't get the job but I was happy and his job aint done yet neither. Nearly a year, I'll bet I still get it.

Laugh, Laugh harder than tell them they should try to have it "virtually installed by a cybertech".

- Stop wearing fairy clothes.

I forgot.
-Identify all the homosexuals in H-Tlk who are jealous of my good looks and charm.

Don't you already do most of that stuff??

Things I would do before installing an E-Bay Gooman special.
-Sit home and watch daytime infomercials.
-Get a job picking up dog poop out of other people's yards.
-Try to accurately count the hairs on my head.
-Sit here and think up goofy things to talk about.
-Organize my work truck.
-Go to Iraq.....or maybe the Caymans.....oops that one has already been taken.

Good story Pilotlight.
We nolonger have Goodman up here. We would burn the exchangers out in a years time! The distributor droped the line and pick up Frigidaire.

i had one lady call me non stop for 3 monthes six days a week for an estimate for installing one of these web deals. when i got there it was a downflow and she needed an upflow and it was 2 sizes to small. i nicely asked her to never call me again for this job and if she wanted me to supply a different unit and install that one i would do it and to be nice i would take the old one off her hands for a total savings to her of 10.00 dollars. she told me go f off that some one else would be happy to install it. the unit stills sit in her garage today 8 monthes later and the house still doesn't have heat