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Originally Posted by MHall

Thanks. Does anyone have his email address or know how to contact him? I would love the opportunity to ask a former chief engineer from my area some questions.

Is there a way to send him a direct message through this site?

Thanks for all the help!

If his e-mail isn't available through his profile, then no.

There is a Private Messaging feature, but it is limited to Professional Members only.

Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm

Moved thread to tech to tech chat.

Member coolh20 hasn't logged into this site since 2006.

Thanks. Does anyone have his email address or know how to contact him? I would love the opportunity to ask a former chief engineer from my area some questions.

Is there a way to send him a direct message through this site?

Thanks for all the help!

Moved thread to tech to tech chat.

Member coolh20 hasn't logged into this site since 2006.

I just visited Dallas last week and I would have liked to check out one of these local plants.

Does anyone know if the user who identified himself as; coolh20 is still on this website? He posted several times on this thread. I am asking this because it appears he used to be a chief engineer in my area. As a young person attempting to enter the field of building engineering it would be great to ask him some questions.

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Best

Yeah, we are that bored...........

Originally posted by newtradesman


Learning is limited by ones desire not by the situation he works in.

You thought you were asking a simple question. 7 pages, 90 posts and 1,560 views later...here we are. Wait till you see what happens when you ask something really controversial....like Dice's 9 milimeter thread.

Learning is limited by ones desire not by the situation he works in.

Originally posted by deanmech
This has been an interesting thread. I've worked on both sides of "the fence" as well. Perhaps you can be a little more "rounded" when you have done both, but whatever you do, there is always more to learn.

There are only a few conditions where you can not learn. When you retire and are no longer in the field. And when you becomew useless.
Len

This has been an interesting thread. I've worked on both sides of "the fence" as well. Perhaps you can be a little more "rounded" when you have done both, but whatever you do, there is always more to learn.

Originally posted by Diceman
Wow, I never knew you PO's were so touchy.......

Not much different than a service tech.... Pride runs deep.

Wow, I never knew you PO's were so touchy.......

Bobby,
The city of San Jose as far as I know was the last city to require a licience. And when Eldridge (fire inspector) died in the 70's the city's ttesting program died. So no California does not require a licience.
State law states "a compedent operator shall be on duty at all times", but there is no definition of what a compedent operator is.
Len

Bobby,
The city of San Jose as far as I know was the last city to require a licience. And when Eldridge (fire inspector) died in the 70's the city's ttesting program died. So no California does not require a licience.
State law states "a compedent operator shall be on duty at all times", but there is no definition of what a compedent operator is.
Len

Originally posted by Diceman

Originally posted by coolh2o

Originally posted by Diceman
The difference is good service techs can go into any bldg and work on it based on past years of experience.
Typically PO's, even very good ones, are usually lost once they leave their own bldg.

Come on Dice.... I have read enough intelligent things you have written for me to think you actually believe this.

I was mainly responding to the guy who called the outside contractors, chumps....some are, but if they didn't need them, they wouldn't have to call them in.

He shouldn't have said that, but don't fool yourself about building operators either. I have operated large facilities in Dallas and I have spent time doing start up and operations training in Taiwan and Hong Kong and I can tell you for sure... If you are a real operator it doesn't matter what equipment, what plant, what time zone or hemisphere, cold water, steam, ice or R-22 liquid overfeed... equipment is equipment. Likewise if you are a real service tech... well DITTO!

Originally posted by coolh2o

Originally posted by Diceman
The difference is good service techs can go into any bldg and work on it based on past years of experience.
Typically PO's, even very good ones, are usually lost once they leave their own bldg.

Come on Dice.... I have read enough intelligent things you have written for me to think you actually believe this.

I was mainly responding to the guy who called the outside contractors, chumps....some are, but if they didn't need them, they wouldn't have to call them in.

Originally posted by snipe70e

Originally posted by bobby7388
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But a stationary engineer will always be licensed in some form from a AHJ, if someone doesn't have the license then they should'nt use the name or title

Bobby,
Not all S/E hava a licience. California does not require one, I wish they did but they don't.
At one time I had a Coast Guard's Thirds Licience and that test would make any cities test a walk in the park. So with out a city licience I use the tital Stationary Engineer.
Len

PS I agree there are a lot of people using the title that do not have a clue. I work for one.
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Alot of states don't have specific licensing requirements to cover their municipalities, only on state jobs does the state use discretion.
Cities that don't have licensing requirements usually will have a insurance carrier requirement for a license. Most bigger and older cities will require a license issued by a municipality.

Are you saying that in your area a license isn't required on hi-pressure boilers?

Where I am they have on site electricians, contracted plumbers and hvac companies that do most of the work unfortunately. Motor needs changing, call sparky, RTU down call...

This building is mainly Pm's on the equipment(filters and belts), testing fire safety equipment as per code, and making sure everyone is comfortable in the building.

Other buildings we are responsible for changing out the pumps, motors and .....

I am classified as a building operator, keep things running day to day.

I think what the title encompasses is different for each building and what company you work for.

I dont have alot of experience as a building operator but I am constantly learning here and picking the brains of the contractors that are in, mainly because my supervisor can't answer my questions, but keeps telling me "I'm an engineer"

Originally posted by sigma

Originally posted by snipe70e
[ So with out a city licience I use the tital Stationary Engineer.
Len

Former boiler operators from the Navy should not have to need a license. [/B]

Hmmm. I disagree.

For one, if you know your stuff, what's the big deal in obtaining the license?

When I retired from the Navy, actually about a year before that, I simply got copies of all my relevant service jacket pages to show my time and training and experience. Got a senior officer to sign and certify copies as being true ones. Picked up a study guide and looked thru it. Didn't need to learn about boilers and such. No simple study guide or text was gonna teach me anything I didn't already know about the machinery. I did need however to learn what various civilian terms and definitions for things were. What the civilian rules and laws said.

Then I took the test. Piece of cake. The technical equipment questions were a breeze for me. BUT I needed to know the civilian rules, laws, etc.

I don't know how it works elsewhere, but in Minnesota they wanted some sort of proof that your claim that you knew such and such was true. Thus the requirement for proving experience and training, and the test.

Also, copies of the license are required to be posted on site, if you're the in-house operator or person responsible. So that AHJs, insurance inspectors, fire marshall's, etc when making inspection can see if in fact there is someone qualified taking care of that boiler. Also, so they know who to hammer if there is a problem.

<Shrug> If a fellow knows what he's doing and talking about, I don't see why a test and licensing requirement is such a big deal.

Originally posted by sigma

Originally posted by snipe70e
[ So with out a city licience I use the tital Stationary Engineer.
Len

Former boiler operators from the Navy should not have to need a license. [/B]

Amen