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i forgot to say excellent job on the refrigerant lines.

I am sorry but whoever said emt in not an outdoor product is wrong. As long as you use the proper raintight fittings EMT can be piped outside. i have done it in 30 different cities and no one has ever had a problem with it. the job should have been done in at least EMT. They also make fittings for EMT that are concrete tight, so you can use it in a slab if you wanted to. i would not recommend it but it is possible. The sealtite done by the electricans looks terrible.

Nice work!!

The electricians should be fired though.

Makes me sick to see quality work next to that!!

look at the wireing a littel closer. that is not the electritions. that is the controle wireing.it is the controles guys fault.

Staybrite is stronger than silfos (higher tensile strength} Good shi*t.

Originally posted by gtrplyr
I can tell by the posts that I am outclassed on experience, but I am troubled that by looking at the pads it seems that you have reinstalled those units right where the were crushed before. Also, starbrite on high sitting copper seems an obvious breaking point when the snow falls. Job security?.......... Just wondering

We did give the owners an option to move these units to the gable end of the building. But you have to realize that we are just pawns in this big mess.

The architect is the one who insisted that the units be on the side of the building. So now he is responsible to build a shelter over the units so that they won't get crushed next winter. Then you have the insurance company involved. And you have the general contractor involved. It is not our decision as to where these units will go. That's the plan to build a mighty shelter before the snow flys. Not MY plan. But it is a plan.

I have all the confidence in the StayBrite solder in the way we used it on this job.

I can tell by the posts that I am outclassed on experience, but I am troubled that by looking at the pads it seems that you have reinstalled those units right where the were crushed before. Also, starbrite on high sitting copper seems an obvious breaking point when the snow falls. Job security?.......... Just wondering

Or he'll mount the disconnect right over the rating plate.

Oh yeah. Put up a piece of unistrut and the electician thinks you put it up out of the kindness of your heart just for his use. Generally he'll run his conduit right down the middle if you don't guard your hanger.

This goes for roofs too. "The "refer-guy" put the hole and pitch box in the roof just for me. Just to show my graditude I'll drill my disconnect to this this fin thingy.
I wonder what that hissing is? No problem it stop hissing."

I see you pushed on the armaflex- makes for a neater looking job. I can't tell from the pix if the suction lines are sloped, but I assume they are. It looks like you cut the armaflex and solidly clamped the suction line to the strut? Most guys will put a clamp over the outside of the insulation which I disagree with. I want the tubing solid to the unistrut with a cush a clamp. Nice looking job. Maybe next time, lengthen the strut and tell the elctricians to use it, They don't, they do it over on their nickel. Last summer I put in 2 new Bally freezer units on a 20 x 20 walk in. I had two nice 3 foot high stands made to put the CU's on. [keep the grass out of the condenser coils and for working hieght; don't have to lay on the ground to work on them] Electrician drilled several holes right thru one leg of the stand to run his conduit even though I had extra unistrut from my pipe supports in place for him.

Ben

WoW!! Did they get crunched!!

Keep up the good work!

Servicepro

Servicepro

This was the orginal post of the condensing units after they got hit with snow off the roof. Check out the roofs over the self contained packaged units in the back. Believe it or not the constant breeze off the mountain keeps the air from short cycling.



This is the "after" shot. Actually the only think that got destroyed was the condensers but the insurance pay for new units.


[Edited by benncool on 07-25-2003 at 03:06 PM]

Nice piping Bencool

But I trust there is allowable airflow clearance between the units.

The picture is probably making the units look jammed close to each other than they probably are.


Servicepro

Well since electricians were bashed, I must chime in. Is it code? Definitley. Is it pretty? Naw. Emt is NOT an outdoor product so, no, it should NOT have been used. Even with compression fittings it's still a no no. PVC would have done the job probably faster and easier but, let's face it, after one summer it would have looked exactly the same as the flex. I seriously doubt any electrician would have done any other way except for maybe running low as not to ruin the view. Rigid would have been your next option but not very cost effective. In any case, nice piping job.

Benncools post reflects how experience and time in trade can sometimes collide with what is taught in trade and tech schools. I`ll take experience every time.

JW Harris he is the man. James is right it is Staybrite. There was a good reason for using this low temperature silver. Since this was a replacement system the existing lines had oil in them.

So even thought we tried to wipe out the oil the best we could I didn't want to take the chance of igniting the oil. This would have created more contaimination than it was worth.

I would always use Silfos for discharge lines. But Staybrite is perfectly acceptable for refrigeration lines. Read the specifications for it. It should not be confused with 50/50 or 95/5. When I was a kid we put in whole supermarkets using this stuff.

If he used staybright soft, you can`t do any better.

Nice looking job BUT...it looks like you used soft solder? Say it isn't so

Electricians

Yea, there the ones that say, "Shorted to Ground"

Like saying, bring me a glass of wet water.

don't you hate it when you make your piping look that good and the electrician does that!