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Originally Posted by energy_rater_La

that makes me feel better. Michigan prices are a big ten cents more.
still.. too high for any part of the country IMO.

NG gas is getting piped in all over so people are dropping it pretty fast.

that makes me feel better. Michigan prices are a big ten cents more.
still.. too high for any part of the country IMO.

Upper Michigan is like 2.99

yep..your temps would turn me into a popsicle.
summer with low RH..wouldn't be a problem.

my little co-op is very popular. people on large utility
company lines wish they were with the co-op.
a few of my clients have bought property when building
new with the co-op as motivation to move in rural area.

so...general forum people...any propane prices y'all would
share?? sure would like that feedback.
not suprised that La.'s are highest rate so far.

Originally Posted by energy_rater_La

it gets really cold where you are doesn't it? dual fuel is a good choice.

It can get a bit nippy but it can also get pretty warm. It's almost time to put the hoodie in the closet and break out the Carhartts!

Here's a graph of our average and record temps that I copied from The Weather Channel website.

Originally Posted by energy_rater_La

Dave, are you part of a co-op?

Yes. We get our propane from a popular co-op.

Dave, are you part of a co-op?

we have a local rural co-op for electricity.
lowest prices in this area. they used to
give dividends...not they put it into a
death benefits fund. so you never get it..
but your family does.

Originally Posted by Cooked

And just what were you growing in there mister?

Somebody had to say it.

Yeah, at least a fellow Houston-Texan did...

The answer is/was tropical foliage plants (non-flowering)... they were the rage back then.

When Jimmy Carter deregulated n-gas... I saw the handwriting on the wall and sold the nursery. Good move... as growers drove each other into the ground and buying plants from the Brownsville area was cheaper than growing them.

Now one cannot keep 12K ft of greenhouses perfectly clean all season... <grin>

Originally Posted by ga-hvac-tech

.........I had a 12000 ft greenhouse growing operation... heated with propane.....

And just what were you growing in there mister?

Somebody had to say it.

Originally Posted by Dad

.........But today, I overheard two farmers talking, and one of them said he had hired a bull to 'Service' a few cows. BAM!!! It all came into focus. Now I understand what all those agencies are doing to us.

You are now as enlightened as I.[/COLOR]

Succinctly put Dad.

Just fired my Propane stealer. Tank charges, environmental surcharges, fuel charges. I have two tanks so they double up and I have to call them every time.

I found a local company that give me the tank and only charge for the gallons I buy from them. They also removed the two tanks after pumping them out and set their tank for free. Their normal pricing was .60 less a gallon than my previous stealer who also tried to charge me 800 bucks to replace their old and rusty tank last year.

Just shop around... last I paid was 1.99 a gal plus tax.


On another note:



Internal Revenue 'Service'

US Postal 'Service'

Telephone 'Service'

Cable TV 'Service'

Civil 'Service'

Federal, State, City, & public 'Service'

Customer 'Service'

I thought that "Service" meant a voluntary giving of oneself for the good of others.

But today, I overheard two farmers talking, and one of them said he had hired a bull to 'Service' a few cows. BAM!!! It all came into focus. Now I understand what all those agencies are doing to us.

You are now as enlightened as I.

Originally Posted by Dave2425

Mods,

Is it possible to move this thread to the General Discussion forum so anyone can respond? Or would it be easier if I just repost it there?

Dave

Yes, I'll move it there, since its not about equipment.

However all warnings and points issued before the move will remain.

Originally Posted by Dave2425

Mods,

Is it possible to move this thread to the General Discussion forum so anyone can respond? Or would it be easier if I just repost it there?

Dave

x2... more feedback there.

Originally Posted by energy_rater_La

ga havc tech in first post OP says:My supplier gives a $.20/gal cash discount if paid in full within 14 days. I also received a 1% dividend last year.
pretty sweet deal, I'd settle for the .20 cent per gallon is paid in full in 2 weeks!

OP, I figured you were rural with propane!
they have some pretty efficient water heaters for propane look for .65 energy factor and higher.
with electric .95 energy factor and higher.
or really upgrade with electric to heat pump water heater. energy factor is 2.30...quite a difference
plus 1/2 ton of cooling & dehumdification benefits. don't think instant propane tank would be a good
deal though.

it gets really cold where you are doesn't it? dual fuel is a good choice. folks here are
very knowledgeable about these systems.

I was hoping to see propane costs from others..
your costs are MUCH lower than mine.

Yeah, I saw that.

Back in the 1970's, I lived in Houston (well, the burbs). I had a 12000 ft greenhouse growing operation... heated with propane. While we did not get a discount for cash... we did get a discount for a over a certain amount. I bought from a handful of mom/pop co's... kinda played they against each other for price. One co has a smaller truck... only carried 850 gal. They would cut me a sweet deal if I could take the entire truckload.

Mods,

Is it possible to move this thread to the General Discussion forum so anyone can respond? Or would it be easier if I just repost it there?

Dave

ga havc tech in first post OP says:My supplier gives a $.20/gal cash discount if paid in full within 14 days. I also received a 1% dividend last year.
pretty sweet deal, I'd settle for the .20 cent per gallon is paid in full in 2 weeks!

OP, I figured you were rural with propane!
they have some pretty efficient water heaters for propane look for .65 energy factor and higher.
with electric .95 energy factor and higher.
or really upgrade with electric to heat pump water heater. energy factor is 2.30...quite a difference
plus 1/2 ton of cooling & dehumdification benefits. don't think instant propane tank would be a good
deal though.

it gets really cold where you are doesn't it? dual fuel is a good choice. folks here are
very knowledgeable about these systems.

I was hoping to see propane costs from others..
your costs are MUCH lower than mine.

Originally Posted by Dave2425

Our house was built in 1994 and the only propane appliance is a 50 gallon water heater. We have a 1000 gallon tank for the house. I may change the water heater to off-peak electric when we get rural water.

We currently have a Heil 9000 propane furnace and an American Standard Allegiance 10 A/C that are original to the house. We are replacing both soon with another propane furnace and heat pump. We live in the country so natural gas isn't an option and geothermal wasn't cost effective.

We also have another 1000 gallon tank that supplies the heater in our shop and a 23kw Katolight generator.

I have not done much with LP (propane) in decades... in the metro Atlanta area almost everyone has n-gas.

Do the suppliers give a discount when you buy a large amount... like let that 1000 gal tank run down to 250 or 200?

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Originally Posted by energy_rater_La

what propane appliances do you have?
what is your heating system?
is this an existing home?

Our house was built in 1994 and the only propane appliance is a 50 gallon water heater. We have a 1000 gallon tank for the house. I may change the water heater to off-peak electric when we get rural water.

We currently have a Heil 9000 propane furnace and an American Standard Allegiance 10 A/C that are original to the house. We are replacing both soon with another propane furnace and heat pump. We live in the country so natural gas isn't an option and geothermal wasn't cost effective.

We also have another 1000 gallon tank that supplies the heater in our shop and a 23kw Katolight generator.