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  • 07-09-2010, 06:47 PM
    pdrake65
    Hmmm. I seem to see alot of people who aren't qualified to do this kind of work giving alot of hard working people issues (can't say "hack" because i'll get in trouble again!)
    It gets me frustated in many ways.
  • 07-09-2010, 04:44 PM
    ConnieB
    Thank you Swariz. We contracted a reputable company for the install or thought we did. I took the first pro's advice after they sent 3 "hacks" and requested a supervisor. He is here as I type so we will see...... Connie
  • 07-09-2010, 01:51 PM
    Sarwiz
    To ConnieB: your "tech" is not a tech, but a hack! Get someone out there that has a clue (would NEVER bypass a high pressure switch, for one...).
    To Matt: your terminology makes you sound like a DIY'er, and I just recently was in an accelerated training environment and we used the correct terminology there at all times. If you are that close to your "associates", you should know that switches apply to electrical (primarily) and "valves" apply to fluid or vapor movement. I have "valves" on the end of some of my hoses, and LLF's on the rest. There are no switches involved in a guage manifold (unless maybe a digital one, but don't have one yet). If pressures are "maxxing out" on the guages, they should have taught you in troubleshooting 101 what the cause would be. I am also a student, and just this year got my 608 universdal and 609 certs. but have been on the warmer end of hvac for about 15 years on and off. I don't work in the trades , but as a building "engineer" for a branch of the govt, and am receiving some excellent training from them. I have read this post in it's entirety, and you should go back and read markettech's ( http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showpost.ph...74&postcount=1 ) post about 4 more times. I am also working on getting my post count up to apply for pro membership. These guys here really do know their stuff, but I appreciate them not just giving it out to every DIY'er that comes along. Respect them, do what they say, go pro, then your questions will be answered.
  • 07-09-2010, 12:57 PM
    Bart Vaio

    Unit

    If the tech's name is "Unit" then yes you might have a bad unit. You might want a second look at this new install.
  • 07-08-2010, 10:05 PM
    fotofx
    Quote Originally Posted by supertek65 View Post
    watch this utube video

    go to 4 min 08 seconds
    Link missing..
  • 07-08-2010, 10:05 PM
    fotofx
    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    I can't get my regulator over 500#
    If I turn mine in all the way it seems to go wide open. Always thought that was kind of strange.
  • 07-08-2010, 10:03 PM
    supertek65
    watch this utube video

    go to 4 min 08 seconds



    Quote Originally Posted by fotofx View Post
    The hell with the switch... At 500 static, I RUN....
  • 07-08-2010, 10:02 PM
    fotofx
    Quote Originally Posted by ConnieB View Post
    Hi I have a question....I know this is a pro site, and I would appreciate a little understanding if possible. We just purchased a Lennox XC13 after three weeks it froze up. The installers came out and fused it with 21/2 lbs of freon. The not even a week later (last night) the pressure went to 160/550 according to the installer the high pressure switch went out on it. He said he reset it to 150/375 and by passed the switch. And will have to come out tomorrow and install a new switch. Would it be possible for someone to tell me why a switch would go bad on a brand new unit not even a month old. I couldn't really understand (language barrier, don't speak spanglish) but it sounded like the installer told me that the air outside was TOO HOT so the compressor switched off??? It was late so I couldn't get anyone from the office (or manager) on the phone. Just trying to figure out if we may have a bad unit. Thanks for any input.
    Could be a multitude of things. If you do not have faith in the tech, call them and get a supervisor out.
  • 07-08-2010, 10:02 PM
    jpsmith1cm
    Quote Originally Posted by fotofx View Post
    Had a helper once that was leak testing a system with me. I set the nitrogen regulator and just wanted him to open the valve when I got upstairs. When he opened the valve he saw the pressure drop so he turned the regulator up.

    Near as I could tell we had about 1000 psi in that thing.. Found the leak though..
    I can't get my regulator over 500#
  • 07-08-2010, 10:02 PM
    jpsmith1cm
    Quote Originally Posted by ConnieB View Post
    Hi I have a question....I know this is a pro site, and I would appreciate a little understanding if possible. We just purchased a Lennox XC13 after three weeks it froze up. The installers came out and fused it with 21/2 lbs of freon. The not even a week later (last night) the pressure went to 160/550 according to the installer the high pressure switch went out on it. He said he reset it to 150/375 and by passed the switch. And will have to come out tomorrow and install a new switch. Would it be possible for someone to tell me why a switch would go bad on a brand new unit not even a month old. I couldn't really understand (language barrier, don't speak spanglish) but it sounded like the installer told me that the air outside was TOO HOT so the compressor switched off??? It was late so I couldn't get anyone from the office (or manager) on the phone. Just trying to figure out if we may have a bad unit. Thanks for any input.
    Yes.

    Call a real contractor. Sounds like you have landed yourself a hack.

    Good luck.
  • 07-08-2010, 10:00 PM
    fotofx
    Quote Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm View Post
    Not too fast, it's liable to be pretty hot....

    Maybe smarter to not get close to a system that is that hot.

    Had a helper once that was leak testing a system with me. I set the nitrogen regulator and just wanted him to open the valve when I got upstairs. When he opened the valve he saw the pressure drop so he turned the regulator up.

    Near as I could tell we had about 1000 psi in that thing.. Found the leak though..
  • 07-08-2010, 09:59 PM
    ConnieB
    Hi I have a question....I know this is a pro site, and I would appreciate a little understanding if possible. We just purchased a Lennox XC13 after three weeks it froze up. The installers came out and fused it with 21/2 lbs of freon. The not even a week later (last night) the pressure went to 160/550 according to the installer the high pressure switch went out on it. He said he reset it to 150/375 and by passed the switch. And will have to come out tomorrow and install a new switch. Would it be possible for someone to tell me why a switch would go bad on a brand new unit not even a month old. I couldn't really understand (language barrier, don't speak spanglish) but it sounded like the installer told me that the air outside was TOO HOT so the compressor switched off??? It was late so I couldn't get anyone from the office (or manager) on the phone. Just trying to figure out if we may have a bad unit. Thanks for any input.
  • 07-08-2010, 09:56 PM
    jpsmith1cm
    Quote Originally Posted by fotofx View Post
    The hell with the switch... At 500 static, I RUN....
    Not too fast, it's liable to be pretty hot....

    Maybe smarter to not get close to a system that is that hot.
  • 07-08-2010, 09:53 PM
    fotofx
    Quote Originally Posted by supertek65 View Post
    is that when you turn on the switch?????????????
    The hell with the switch... At 500 static, I RUN....
  • 07-08-2010, 09:51 PM
    supertek65
    is that when you turn on the switch?????????????



    Quote Originally Posted by fotofx View Post
    Let me point something out... Most analog gauges will read up to 500 psi on the high side. If the compressor was on thermal the pressures would equalize. Meaning that both low and high would have to be over 500.

    Unless this R22 system is Satan's I don't think he would have the required temp to equalize at over 500.
  • 07-08-2010, 09:46 PM
    fotofx
    Quote Originally Posted by tiger man View Post
    i believe that the compressor is out on thermal overload, based on the vague description by matt
    Let me point something out... Most analog gauges will read up to 500 psi on the high side. If the compressor was on thermal the pressures would equalize. Meaning that both low and high would have to be over 500.

    Unless this R22 system is Satan's I don't think he would have the required temp to equalize at over 500.
  • 07-08-2010, 09:44 PM
    supertek65
    UHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    Quote Originally Posted by fotofx View Post
    Uhhh... No..
  • 07-08-2010, 09:39 PM
    fotofx
    Quote Originally Posted by tiger man View Post
    i believe that the compressor is out on thermal overload, based on the vague description by matt
    Uhhh... No..
  • 07-08-2010, 09:34 PM
    tiger man

    pressure gauges

    i believe that the compressor is out on thermal overload, based on the vague description by matt
  • 07-08-2010, 09:30 PM
    the dangling wrangler
    Quote Originally Posted by supertek65 View Post
    no seriously!!!!!!!!!!!!

    that is a sexy switch!!
    think ill order one
    Glad I wasn't the only one that thought that.
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