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Originally posted by rac Looks good, I would have located the drier on the outside of the house. Driers do a better job in a cooler location, It can get pretty hot in the attic in the summertime when the unit is operating, so I've been told. The drier will be able to hold the moisture, (which there should'nt be any)when installed in a cooler location. Yeah thats a good point. I've also heard a filter/drier should be as close to the metering device as possible. ( perhaps because of previous contaminents which should not be a factor in a new install ) Goodman does have a factory installed filter/drier in the condenser. Your comment is well taken.
Looks good, I would have located the drier on the outside of the house. Driers do a better job in a cooler location, It can get pretty hot in the attic in the summertime when the unit is operating, so I've been told. The drier will be able to hold the moisture, (which there should'nt be any)when installed in a cooler location.
Well regardless of who made the box with the moter in it. Nice work.
I agree about the quality of the installation. I have installed Ruud, Goodman,Carrier,Trane,American Standard, Payne,Bryant, to mention a few. They're all good and are seceptable to manufacturer defects once in a while. A bad install lessens the efficiency as well as te life of a piece of equipment.
Re: Quality Install better than brand! Originally posted by andrewd33 If there is one thing I have learned on this site is that quality installation is more important than any brand name. A bad install will make any equipment suck. The co I work for installs Trane, and Trane IMO is one of the best brands. From the looks of Goodman's product it has made some significant improvements from its earlier day. The CU's look better to me than some higher end mfrs. equipment. If you are looking to keep cool in the summer and warm in the winter, I don't think that these units would disappoint you. This is America and we all have the choice to pick out the brand that makes us happy. There are some homeowners who would rather spend $$$ on a Versace Suit then a Carrier or Trane A/C and others that would prefer a 19 SEER Trane and buy their Suit at the Men's Warehouse. Either suit will look good if tailored properly to your body, but then again if the tailor botches it up both could look bad. Once again if the installer puts pride into the install and follows acceptable guidelines either unit will keep you cool in the summer and warm in the winter. Good point andrew!!!
Re: Quality Install better than brand!
Quality Install better than brand! If there is one thing I have learned on this site is that quality installation is more important than any brand name. A bad install will make any equipment suck. The co I work for installs Trane, and Trane IMO is one of the best brands. From the looks of Goodman's product it has made some significant improvements from its earlier day. The CU's look better to me than some higher end mfrs. equipment. If you are looking to keep cool in the summer and warm in the winter, I don't think that these units would disappoint you. This is America and we all have the choice to pick out the brand that makes us happy. There are some homeowners who would rather spend $$$ on a Versace Suit then a Carrier or Trane A/C and others that would prefer a 19 SEER Trane and buy their Suit at the Men's Warehouse. Either suit will look good if tailored properly to your body, but then again if the tailor botches it up both could look bad. Once again if the installer puts pride into the install and follows acceptable guidelines either unit will keep you cool in the summer and warm in the winter.
Quality Install better than brand!
Your work is neat and well done. I would have had my drain pan suspended directly under the air handler, kind of a two tier hanger using unistrut or l-iron, less chance of condensate drip splashing all over the attic and eventually rotting out wood. Keep up the good work.
Re: maybe it's my eyes.....not the picture Originally posted by jimbellings out here we have lag bolts that screw into wood joists with a special drill attachment....and allows the 3/8 rod to screw into the lag bolts......fairly high speed and fast. I've used 3/8 rod and unistrut alot in commercial applications. I will look for this lag bolt because as you and wannamakeice both said, it is better. I used to shoot a stud into concrete and attach 3/8 rod with unistrut. I'm also wondering if 3/8 rod transmits more vibration then chain and spruce trapeze. But I rarely have vibration problems. Thanks for the info.
Re: maybe it's my eyes.....not the picture
Re: Re: to me....... Originally posted by actnowhvac Originally posted by jimbellings sure all the foil faced duct wrap and metal jacket flex makes it look high speed.......but......this looks like a typical goodman install to me.....look at the plumbers tape holding up the 2 by 4's that are holding up the furnace.....a little unistrut and 3/8 rod would clean that up and make it look a bit more professional.......and the plumbers tape holding up the ductwork......i'm sure the instructions want a little more than half inch plumbers tape holding up that duct....i highly recommend 2 inch wide webbing straps....just a few things i noticed.....but the silver all looks good. I don't like unistrut with 3/8 rod in an uneven wood framed attic. What do you attach the 3/8 rod to? You use unistrut across the joices . Using lag bolts to attach it too the joices. Looks very nice and a gorilla can swing from it.
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maybe it's my eyes.....not the picture out here we have lag bolts that screw into wood joists with a special drill attachment....and allows the 3/8 rod to screw into the lag bolts......fairly high speed and fast.
maybe it's my eyes.....not the picture
Re: to me....... Originally posted by jimbellings sure all the foil faced duct wrap and metal jacket flex makes it look high speed.......but......this looks like a typical goodman install to me.....look at the plumbers tape holding up the 2 by 4's that are holding up the furnace.....a little unistrut and 3/8 rod would clean that up and make it look a bit more professional.......and the plumbers tape holding up the ductwork......i'm sure the instructions want a little more than half inch plumbers tape holding up that duct....i highly recommend 2 inch wide webbing straps....just a few things i noticed.....but the silver all looks good. Not that the picture is that great but that is 3/8 welded chain holding the air handler ( not furnace ) The main supports for the duct work are 2x4 with heavy joist straps. The only thing correct about your comment is the additional metal staps used during installation. I don't like unistrut with 3/8 rod in an uneven wood framed attic. What do you attach the 3/8 rod to? You need to make hangers for the rods. I use 5/16 bolts through the roof rafters attach welded chain and then I bolts through Spruce 2X4's. That will hold 1200 lbs. The air handler is 98 lbs. Duct work perhaps 150 lbs. Thanks for the comments.
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to me....... sure all the foil faced duct wrap and metal jacket flex makes it look high speed.......but......this looks like a typical goodman install to me.....look at the plumbers tape holding up the 2 by 4's that are holding up the furnace.....a little unistrut and 3/8 rod would clean that up and make it look a bit more professional.......and the plumbers tape holding up the ductwork......i'm sure the instructions want a little more than half inch plumbers tape holding up that duct....i highly recommend 2 inch wide webbing straps....just a few things i noticed.....but the silver all looks good.
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>>>Well here goes.....I like Goodman<<<< Ok Woods you watch the back door, There is an angry crowd forming out front, they are drinking and I think one of them has a rope
Well here goes.....I like Goodman.....There I said it. I feel good now coming out of the closet about that. I know I will draw the wrath of nearly everyone in this forum. I also install Trane in my humble opinion they are the best. I have a grudge against Lennox since they will not sell to me because my company is not a "multi million dollar-rip off-used car salesman-A/C service company" with a hundred trucks and parts changers for techs. I have installed hundreds of Goodmans and must agree that it is mostly how the unit is installed not the equipment itself, since most manufacturers use the same processes and parts. There are manufacturing flaws in all equipment brands. Anything made by man is prone to flaws. This is just like the argument of which is better Ford or Chevy and is equally as pointless.
Originally posted by iceman2_us Originally posted by iceman2_us [ deleted by Boss iceman2_us, read this http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=36056 you are way out of line ] Sorry Boss, and fellow members. I let a very rough week get to me and ended up venting here in the forum. I realize this was not the thing to do, and will do my best not to let it happen again in the future, please accept my humble apologies. Okay, thanks for the note. Hope you have a better week this week! Boss
Originally posted by iceman2_us [ deleted by Boss iceman2_us, read this http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/showthread.php?threadid=36056 you are way out of line ] Sorry Boss, and fellow members. I let a very rough week get to me and ended up venting here in the forum. I realize this was not the thing to do, and will do my best not to let it happen again in the future, please accept my humble apologies.
Originally posted by wideawake this looks great but can i ask you why you insulated the airhandlers? that is something i have never tried,but is it something you recommend? I found that in a hot attic the extra insulation on the already insulated air handler reduces that small amount of hot air that you get when it starts. And it reduces any condensation on cold spots on the outside of the air handler. The Flex has R6, the sheet metal duct the same. But I doubt if the air handler had more that R3 if that. Its mostly on the top and one side. The access panel does not have extra insulation except for what is already on the inside of the panel.
this looks great but can i ask you why you insulated the airhandlers? that is something i have never tried,but is it something you recommend?
Just a typical Saturday night at the ranch. A couple of loose teeth , few broken glasses. Goodman must be doing something right, everybody who walks through the door wants to pick a fight.
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