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Portland paper is full of jobs. As for low crime rate I think there is quite a bit of crime. I subscribe to a local paper and it list crimes in 3 or 4 communities. Housing is really starting to take a hike,but rents are pretty low. Not a bad place to live. Daughter has been there 20 years. Property taxes pretty high

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In Seattle you could find a job of your choice but the housing prices are unbelievable and so is the costs of living. South of Seattle in best as most things down there are still close to reasonable, depending on what kind of work you want to do.

The traffic here is almost as bad as the major large cities. When I go into Seattle in the morning, about 15 miles, it can take 45 to 2 hours to get there. One traffic accident and it's a line of stop light in front of you.

The average small home in Seattle is over $400,000 with starter homes, if you can find them in the other counties at about $250,000.

Compared to where I come from, the east coast, the people here are remote and distant. You just won't make friends. And the single women are pretty bad although there are lots of them.

The new licensing laws are very restrictive and expensive and difficult to get. You now must be a mini-electrician to work anywhere in Washington State. And if you decide to open your own business the additional licensing and time and costs are extreme.

I have the same problem you have. I would love to move somewhere where life is reasonable and affordable and the people are friendly but I have yet to find that place. And my business keeps me really busy. And the stuff I work on just can't be found in this amount anywhere else.

Maybe the gold is right in your own back yard. If you do find that place, let me know. I might be interested.

alkiair

I am interested in talking with you, Heres my tel, no 702-273-9007 Don. please give me a call.

Re: Portland skyline on a good day

Thanks for the pic air1, I must say, thats a real nice looking town! Much nicer looking then Seattle

You might even find a job doing digital or ANALOG control work. High tech area..lol

Portland skyline on a good day

I’ve heard Portland described as a small city with a big city smile. Seattle is a big city.

How would you compare Seattle to portland?

Forget bass, when you have a steelhead on your line ... bass is just a four letter word!!!

Portland is really the only "Big City" type city in Oregon.

Even the State Capital is small in comparison to what someone thinks a city shold be like.

Eugene is the second largest city in the State.

It's no longer the neat place like when I lived there. It's changed.
But if your used to Detroit or Chicago, Eugene is a Godsend.

Vancouver is across the river from north Portland. Depending where you live in Vancouver and where you are traveling to in Portland, the drive can be 30 min. to 2 hours during rush hours. Vancouver is a bedroom community for Portland. No nightlife to speak of. But Portland is right across the river and lots going on in Portland. You should visit the area. You will either love it or hate it. But you will know right away. If you have to live in a city, Portland IMHO is the best place to live. Low crime rate and friendly people. The idea situation would be to live close to where you work and not have to drive from job to job. All the benefits of living in the city without the down side of sitting in traffic half your life.

R12rules, I also agree, I miss R-12.

It will take me a while to formulate a reply to your post.

Air1, what do you consider as a long commute? Where I’m from it always takes 45 mins to get to work, but the funny thing is the distance to work is only about 13 miles. If it weren’t for the winding mountain drive to distract you we’d go nuts!

Also I haven’t seen many jobs in Vancouver, or for that matter, I’ve haven’t heard much of anything bout Vancouver. Is that town a dead zone for nightlife? It sure isn’t Seattle I bet. I guess they all just go to Portland?

Originally posted by alikair
Anyone got any knowledge of the a/c industry in Vancouver Washington? I here the fishing is really good in the lakes there.

Vancouver is a nice community with good access to the outdoors. Most people who live in Vancouver work in Portland OR. If you plan to live in Vancouver and work in Portland, expect a long commute. There are only two bridges crossing the Columbia in the Portland area causing a bottleneck. The rent is less in Vancouver and there is no state income tax. But they do have a sales tax. Car registration fees are expensive also. If you could live and work in Vancouver, that would be the best situation. Access to the outdoors, the City and less traffic. Fishing is great in Oregon. No real good bass lakes but we have good trout, salmon, steelhead and sturgeon fishing. Top industrial techs in Portland can make up to $32/hr.

Originally posted by aircooled53
Hot town would be Austin Texas, the business is booming and the babe's are (hot). There is one thing you would need in Austin is a Texas Driver License and a truck,and a pair of Wrangler jeans.

Cost of living shouldn't be quite as high as say Oregon or northern Cal. But, the women there are the best in the country.
Good Luck and happy holiday ..

where did you "read that?" Are you IN TEXAS? I live just below Austin. And people are leaving there to come HERE jst because of the high cost of living.

I used to live in Eugene Oregon. The costs probably have changed since I lived on Friendly Street, but only from locals jacking up the real estate rates ....

And there really arent that many liberals up there. Unless you count a few transplants from California who were jerks and snuck in.
The majority of Oregonians are God fearing men and women.

To the residents there, the name Oregon means "God's Country"!


Oregon has dry lands, wet areas, mountains and some flat lands. Tremendous variety. Almost like a micro California. Almost .... but not quite.


When I lived there, no sales tax. Nada!
Every one friendly.
A guy I worked for even carried his fishing pole in his service truck, all the time.
Cause you could stop and drop a line in so many places!!!

They say that Louisianna is the Sportsman's Paradice. But those who claim that either never been to Oregon or they are liars!



To give any good advice on where to live and work, I would need more info about your personality and such.
And that would maybe change once you got to a new environment and started a new lifestyle.


Why did you move to where you currently live? What motivated you?
What do you like aboit it?
What dont you like about it? Is it just the cost of living? Can that be overcome with a better job, higher wages, etc?


I could sugest moving to Los Angeles. Plenty of the kind of work anyone could imagine. And you dont live downtown just because you cover the whole county. You may end of living outside the county itself.
Never the less, you can live and work inside LA county. You just have to know where to look.


Awhile back, I was invited to interview for a position which would require my family relocating to Santa Rosa California.
The homes in that area start at over 300K!!!

But I knew something about the area from many years ago. So I went looking online and found an area lesser expensive to rent/buy.
And it wasnt far from the center of Santa Rosa either.
You just have to know what is around.


Here in Texas, there are not that many people, per square mile, as there is in much of California.

I live near Austin, the State Capitol. I leave Austin driving north and have small to medium sized communities all the way up to Dallas/ Ft. Worth. And THEN there is some serious population density!!!
But below Dallas .... it's just a corridor of small towns.
The below Austin, it thins out drastically!
If I drive to Houston, 145 miles away, there is hardly ANYTHING between here and there.
Just an occassional wide spot along the freeway.
Then going towards San Antonio .... the same thing. 60 miles of hardly a place to stop and buy gas .... all the way there.

And once you pass the last outer loop of freeway networks inside San Antonio ... your in the country once again!

What I'm saying is your service areas in Texas are quite small. Your opportunities to drive and service a large tonnage system are going to be within a single metroplex. And you can write down the names of those areas ... on the back of a business card .... for the entire state!!!

But in Los Angeles, you have urban sprawl built upon urban sprawl.
You have sizeable county backed up against sizeable county, etc, etc.

I have no clue about Vancouver. We are in Medford Or, 1 hr. to great fishing on a good day and great scenery on a bad one. Plenty of jobs available, just not a lot of pay when you pick one. High cost of living, but it is living in an outdoorsmans idea of paradise.

Anyone got any knowledge of the a/c industry in Vancouver Washington? I here the fishing is really good in the lakes there.

Hot town would be Austin Texas, the business is booming and the babe's are (hot). There is one thing you would need in Austin is a Texas Driver License and a truck,and a pair of Wrangler jeans.

Cost of living shouldn't be quite as high as say Oregon or northern Cal. But, the women there are the best in the country.
Good Luck and happy holiday ..

stockfleth,
I'm glad to see there's a least one friendly person in Oregon : )
Any towns in particular?
And I havnt see many jobs out there.

I'll help them pack.