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  • 01-10-2013, 10:08 PM
    itsiceman
    Are they going to get another one sightly used from an auction
  • 01-10-2013, 09:43 PM
    VTP99
    Worked on a ICEU-150 Sunday. The rocker switch got cooked the week before and at that time I just wired the compressor to the line feed to get him by. Had to go to the IOM dealer to get the replacement. In that weeks time he called again to say the machine stopped working. When I returned Sunday I found it going into harvest every few minutes. I pulled the lead off the pressure switch to get here to run. Once I put my gauges on I new the problem.
  • 01-10-2013, 08:13 AM
    itsiceman
    Had a newer under counter IOM yesterday with burnt wiring......... You just don't see this kind of stuff anymore with the other guys
    Oh and when the bin stat satisfies in the middle of a cycle just shuts down and leaves it hanging. Makes for some interesting ice formations in the bin lol. Don't get me wrong I'll work on them all day but trying to make customers happy while its under warranty is a struggle.
  • 01-09-2013, 10:58 PM
    2sac
    Quote Originally Posted by MicahWes View Post
    And, BTW, not all of us hold on to our old distaste for ice-o-matic. I service several of them, and they are perfectly acceptable machines. I would buy one.
    I don't service many anymore. A couple ICE units here and there. I got a ton of experience working on the GC and ICE series, which are the machines Pepsi supplied to Taco bell in the 90's Nothing more than a turd that ocassionaly made ice. I became proficient in changing out txv's and evaporators in the GC units. All of them had problems with the timer initiates and God knows what else. It was all inferior copycats of Mani's and Hoshi's.
  • 01-09-2013, 09:53 PM
    Gunslinger
    Quote Originally Posted by MicahWes View Post
    And, BTW, not all of us hold on to our old distaste for ice-o-matic. I service several of them, and they are perfectly acceptable machines. I would buy one.
    X2 The ones I see don't have circuit boards that cost a fortune. The newer ones have fan cycling which is a big help.
  • 01-09-2013, 04:36 PM
    jonbailey19808
    Well i for one would say it is time to buy a new ice machine.

    I talk to a great deal of owners and a techs. Buying used it not a good idea. I would buy new and with a Manitowoc you will get a 3 year part and labor warranty.

    The B150's were fantastic in there day but this is like a car with 250,000 miles on it now.
  • 01-08-2013, 10:51 PM
    sfrd
    Could you explain what was so bad about the old ones that is not true of the new ones?

    Thanks,

    Steve

    Quote Originally Posted by MicahWes View Post
    And, BTW, not all of us hold on to our old distaste for ice-o-matic. I service several of them, and they are perfectly acceptable machines. I would buy one.
  • 01-08-2013, 08:49 PM
    itsiceman
    I don't see much difference with them.
    FWIW IMO Everybody's machines are are going the wrong way as far a quality
  • 01-08-2013, 08:20 PM
    MicahWes
    And, BTW, not all of us hold on to our old distaste for ice-o-matic. I service several of them, and they are perfectly acceptable machines. I would buy one.
  • 01-08-2013, 11:29 AM
    Tommy knocker
    You got a good long run out of that machine. It's not going to be cost effective to continue to nurse it. Look at it this way. If you want ice you are going to spend the money to get it. No way around that. So do you buy used? It's an option but the risk of further repairs is high, who ever had it got rid of it for a reason. Bite the bullet and get a new machine with warranty. Your gonna spend the money anyway whether you want to or not. Google equipment leasing in your area. You can most likely lease a new machine and they will maintain and repair. There is a saying around here for theses situations. Pay me now or pay me later. Later costs more. Good luck.
  • 01-08-2013, 08:09 AM
    itsiceman
    Quote Originally Posted by sfrd View Post
    When I time it, I'm generally around 3.5 minutes - not much over.
    Its been getting longer over the last few months.
    It started shutting off overnight once in a while,
    then more frequently, then every night, during the
    day, and now it hardly ever goes more then 3 times.

    I wish I could just adjust the limit, but knocking 30 secs off would fix it.
    I read in another thread that water getting behind the evaporator could cause this.
    I thought I should check for that before giving up on this one forever.
    (I didn't buy the ice-o-matic.)
    Any little imperfection on and around the frame could cause this
    ice-o-matic assist if you want to push a nice hole in the slab and only push off half
  • 01-08-2013, 12:20 AM
    sfrd
    When I time it, I'm generally around 3.5 minutes - not much over.
    Its been getting longer over the last few months.
    It started shutting off overnight once in a while,
    then more frequently, then every night, during the
    day, and now it hardly ever goes more then 3 times.

    I wish I could just adjust the limit, but knocking 30 secs off would fix it.
    I read in another thread that water getting behind the evaporator could cause this.
    I thought I should check for that before giving up on this one forever.
    (I didn't buy the ice-o-matic.)

    Quote Originally Posted by itsiceman View Post
    The board is seeing the long harvest but is it not harvesting in 3.5?
    Could sell him a late model q board that would shut down after 500 long harvest cycles
    If I had a B150 I would drill some holes and retrofit the newer air pump to blast the ice off
  • 01-07-2013, 10:28 PM
    VTP99
    Quote Originally Posted by itsiceman View Post
    If I had a B150 I would drill some holes and retrofit the newer air pump to blast the ice off
    Better yet install the Ice-O-Matic harvest assist !!!
  • 01-07-2013, 10:24 PM
    itsiceman
    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    Yep...after three fail safes. Now if we could give him say maybe just a 1/2 minute more over the 3.5 all might be good.
    The board is seeing the long harvest but is it not harvesting in 3.5?
    Could sell him a late model q board that would shut down after 500 long harvest cycles
    If I had a B150 I would drill some holes and retrofit the newer air pump to blast the ice off
  • 01-07-2013, 10:02 PM
    VTP99
    Quote Originally Posted by itsiceman View Post
    Are you assuming it is a slow harvest that caused his #2 ?
    Yep...after three fail safes. Now if we could give him say maybe just a 1/2 minute more over the 3.5 all might be good.
  • 01-07-2013, 09:25 PM
    itsiceman
    Quote Originally Posted by VTP99 View Post
    So guys can we help this guy speed up his harvest ?
    Are you assuming it is a slow harvest that caused his #2 ?
  • 01-07-2013, 08:55 PM
    VTP99
    So guys can we help this guy speed up his harvest ?
  • 01-07-2013, 08:43 PM
    danbb
    Avoid a new Indigo till they've worked the bugs out, most Manitowoc undercounters are pretty reliable, just beware that they like to bust the bottom evaporator moldings and our distributor has told us we can't get just the molding anymore- have to buy a whole kit with all new moldings
  • 01-07-2013, 06:37 PM
    evilsanta
    I agree with 2sac Ice O Matic is not a good road and a hoshi will make ice out of mud. I would consider a brand new machine. Find a restaurant equipment provider that will work with you on payment.
  • 01-06-2013, 10:11 PM
    J_Bridge
    Manitowoc has some financing options available on their web site. The new indiago units have a lot of things you can check and read out to help diagnose in the future after the three year parts and labor is over.

    Getting a used unit is a big gamble, but it might buy you some time.
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