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Originally Posted by mark beiser

Absolutely sure!

The Grainger catalog is correct that Taiwan is a province of China!
The PRC and ROC both claim that there is only one China, and Taiwan is part of it, and that they are the only legitimate government of China.
The PRC is the communist government of mainland China, but doesn't currently control Taiwan.
The ROC goverment is a democratically elected republic that includes Taiwan and some surrounding islands.

Clear?


Sometimes you will see the PRC or ROC as part of, or next to, a "Made in China" label.
Taiwan(ROC) has tech manufacturing facilities with cleanliness, and working conditions that rival those in the US and Europe.
Mainland China(PRC) has tech manufacturing facilities that are virtual slave labor sweat shops, often forced labor.
Keep that in mind when you are stuck with no north American or European manufactured alternatives for something you need to buy.

I guess we were both right. Cause the last I knew Taiwan was Independent of mainland China. Also was aware of the pissing match for the right of sovereign legitimacy.

Like I said when I read it was China in Graingers I never checked it out further.

Guess I'm getting a little apathetic when it comes to East Asian politics.

Originally Posted by mark beiser

Call the color of the DRSA-1600 PINK, and see how "nice" his response is!

Sure looks pink to me.

Originally Posted by mark beiser

Call the color of the DRSA-1600 PINK, and see how "nice" his response is!

It sure is purty.....


For a pink gadget.

Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm

Speaking personally, Doug is one of the nicest men I've ever had the opportunity to speak to.

Call the color of the DRSA-1600 PINK, and see how "nice" his response is!

Originally Posted by hvac5646

You sure that t
You sure they don't have the same special status as Hong Kong?

Graingers catalog lists Taiwan a s a Province of China when they list a products "Country of Origin".

Sure, Graingers is hardly a legitimate source to quote, just thought there might be something to it.

Absolutely sure!

The Grainger catalog is correct that Taiwan is a province of China!
The PRC and ROC both claim that there is only one China, and Taiwan is part of it, and that they are the only legitimate government of China.
The PRC is the communist government of mainland China, but doesn't currently control Taiwan.
The ROC goverment is a democratically elected republic that includes Taiwan and some surrounding islands.

Clear?


Sometimes you will see the PRC or ROC as part of, or next to, a "Made in China" label.
Taiwan(ROC) has tech manufacturing facilities with cleanliness, and working conditions that rival those in the US and Europe.
Mainland China(PRC) has tech manufacturing facilities that are virtual slave labor sweat shops, often forced labor.
Keep that in mind when you are stuck with no north American or European manufactured alternatives for something you need to buy.

Originally Posted by hvac5646

Boss says your okay...but really no match for him when his ire is risen....HIS words not mine. Don't shoot the messenger!!!

Tell that to the apprentice when I've just bitten his head off for being a fool.

Originally Posted by jpsmith1cm

Speaking personally, Doug is one of the nicest men I've ever had the opportunity to speak to.

He has called me several times, just to check in on me, particularly following the death of my father a few years ago. Nothing professional, just checking to see how I was dealing with the loss of my father.

Yes, sometimes he calls to "talk shop" and those are enjoyable conversations as well. Most recently, he gave me some good and much needed advice on mountain biking, a subject he's very knowledgeable on as well.


Yes, I suppose he can be a bit abrasive at times. I think that anyone who has earned their bones in this trade can. Heck, even I have had apprentices afraid to call me and I'm an

Boss says your okay...but really no match for him when his ire is risen....HIS words not mine. Don't shoot the messenger!!!

Originally Posted by hvac5646

Doug canl get as grumpy as Uncle Clover if his buttons are pushed
Helps to havw thick skin when U talk to him.

Speaking personally, Doug is one of the nicest men I've ever had the opportunity to speak to.

He has called me several times, just to check in on me, particularly following the death of my father a few years ago. Nothing professional, just checking to see how I was dealing with the loss of my father.

Yes, sometimes he calls to "talk shop" and those are enjoyable conversations as well. Most recently, he gave me some good and much needed advice on mountain biking, a subject he's very knowledgeable on as well.


Yes, I suppose he can be a bit abrasive at times. I think that anyone who has earned their bones in this trade can. Heck, even I have had apprentices afraid to call me and I'm an

You sure that t

Originally Posted by mark beiser

The status of Taiwan is WAY more complex than being a "province of China"!

It has its own government, known as the Republic of China, or ROC. Mainland China is the Peoples Republic of China, or PRC.
Interestingly, both mostly agree that there is only one "China", and that Taiwan is part of it. The issue in dispute is which is the legitimate government of it all.
The ROC has never officially declared their independence for Taiwan for a number of reasons, the most obvious to us on the outside is fear of a military takeover by the PRC.
The ROC is not a communist government.

The only reason the PRC hasn't invaded Taiwan in the past is because it was defended by the US and Japanese military. While there has been no US military presence on Taiwan, that I am aware of, since the lat 70's, they have remained under our protection.
IMO, the only thing currently keeping China from taking over Taiwan by force is China's mutual economic dependance with the US and Europe. China's military has modernized to the point that Taiwan would be impossible to defend from a conventional military attack from China.

The day Taiwan is forcibly brought under PRC control will be the day after China figures out how to do it without pissing off the rest of the world to much.

In the mean time, WWIII would be of no benefit to anyone, so the ROC continues operating independent of the PRC, and the PRC rattles its saber at it from time to time...

You sure they don't have the same special status as Hong Kong?

Graingers catalog lists Taiwan a s a Province of China when they list a products "Country of Origin".

Sure, Graingers is hardly a legitimate source to quote, just thought there might be something to it.

Originally Posted by hvac5646

smart ass lolTaiwan is a province of China . don't think I'm wrong but that's what I thought pretty sure.

The status of Taiwan is WAY more complex than being a "province of China"!

It has its own government, known as the Republic of China, or ROC. Mainland China is the Peoples Republic of China, or PRC.
Interestingly, both mostly agree that there is only one "China", and that Taiwan is part of it. The issue in dispute is which is the legitimate government of it all.
The ROC has never officially declared their independence for Taiwan for a number of reasons, the most obvious to us on the outside is fear of a military takeover by the PRC.
The ROC is not a communist government.

The only reason the PRC hasn't invaded Taiwan in the past is because it was defended by the US and Japanese military. While there has been no US military presence on Taiwan, that I am aware of, since the lat 70's, they have remained under our protection.
IMO, the only thing currently keeping China from taking over Taiwan by force is China's mutual economic dependance with the US and Europe. China's military has modernized to the point that Taiwan would be impossible to defend from a conventional military attack from China.

The day Taiwan is forcibly brought under PRC control will be the day after China figures out how to do it without pissing off the rest of the world to much.

In the mean time, WWIII would be of no benefit to anyone, so the ROC continues operating independent of the PRC, and the PRC rattles its saber at it from time to time...

Originally Posted by jtrammel

That's odd because whenever I email/call Doug he gets right back to me. I emailed him a little while ago and he called me within minutes of sending the email. Did you try the addy in his profile here http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/member.php?53649-Doug-Lockhart

THANKS pmed him.

Originally Posted by Joehvac25

I have always had good luck with ak service. The only issue I had was with the temp probes, I broke them. The ak 900 has been great for me, we don't do as much ac as warmer places so just a basic set that's tough is good for me.

Doug canl get as grumpy as Uncle Clover if his buttons are pushed
Helps to havw thick skin when U talk to him.

I have always had good luck with ak service. The only issue I had was with the temp probes, I broke them. The ak 900 has been great for me, we don't do as much ac as warmer places so just a basic set that's tough is good for me.

I got rid of my ak900s because of poor customer service issues. long story... I rather deal with a company that will take care of their customers that spend a great deal ofn their products....

I have three sets of 550's and a set 570's, a SMAN3 and now on the way a SMAN4. I really like how I can pirint out the results with the Testo 570's. I can't believe others haven't done the same with their products.

I keep all of the manifolds in check with each other to make sure they are working properly.

Originally Posted by toocoolforschool

Never said they didn't work just said I needed A knob and have been emailing and calling for two weeks, no reply's, I needed to upgrade anyways.

That's odd because whenever I email/call Doug he gets right back to me. I emailed him a little while ago and he called me within minutes of sending the email. Did you try the addy in his profile here http://hvac-talk.com/vbb/member.php?53649-Doug-Lockhart

Did The yellow jacket ever get some way to calibrate the temp inputs?

I'll take a part commie over a full party member anyday-how about YJ and its made in the US claim?

Originally Posted by itsiceman

FWIW My testo 523 had made in China printed on the circuit board inside but outside was printed made in Germany

electronics are made in China but assembled in Germany with the housing being made in Germany.

FWIW My testo 523 had made in China printed on the circuit board inside but outside was printed made in Germany

So if I don't want a commie dig manifold my choices are limited to two (?); Testo from the Fatherland and Richie - Yellow Jacket which is made in the USA .