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I totally understand the frustration. I was in the same boat when I left (a little over a year ago), but it was the best decision I ever made. I'm back at a job that lets me do what I do best and not get in the way with office red tape and handheld devices made in 1997. If there is that much York equipment out there JCI will undoubtedly lose it to competitors and you will be back at your old jobs before you know it, that's how it's been for me at least.

Better be careful Fabregas, You may be jcis next lawsuit,since that seems to be the only way they can stay in business is to sue their ex collective bargaining units.

Originally Posted by Fabregas1

...now I am on a mission to give them hell, to help my current employer in every way I can to outsell and outservice JCI, they deserve no less....

i am sorry that you had to go through that. as i tell my daughters, do not try to be better than anyone else, just be better than you were yesterday. all of that effort will feel be for nothing if they beat you on this or that job. just be better than you and let the other companies of the world come and go.

First I will ask for your forgiveness for giving life to what is an old or inactive thread, but I feel that for my own mental health I need to get this out of my chest. Hopefully it will not be taken as hate or resentment but maybe heartbroken.

I started at York Puerto Rico fresh out of HVAC school, my first real job. I found myself working within a superb team of service techs and a great service manager, he is a PA native that basically relocated to the island to start the York service office back in the day, and by his own stories was raised by York as he had family that work at York PA office before him, basically a York guy all his life. My father also worked at York PR before me, and I used to go to some jobs on saturdays when a kid with him as he was a manager and he liked to bring lunch to the guys that were busy at saturday overtime. I grew with an inmense pride and respect for the brand.

Later as an employee, I was transmited that love for the brand from the guys (and gals) that worked there, as I grew and learned and went to York School in PA, I was given more and more responsibility and with time I started to work on bigger units, until I graduated from YCAZ, YCAJ, YCAS to YT, YS and later YK's, even got the chance to work on a CYK and the only York steam fired absorber on the Island. And no matter how big a problem we had, our manager always knew a guy in PA that bailed us out, I saw that as a great service mentality and of standing behind the product, people with pride that were not only doing the job for a paycheck, both in the Island AND in York PA. That relationship with the company lasted almost 13 years, then JCI happened.

A company not know in the Island for how amazing they were, I can not tell you how many costumers when calling the office will ask if we sold baby Pampers or if we made pills or confused us with Johnson & Johnson just because we were not allowed to mention the York name when answering the phones!! How our service architecture was completely changed, or chain of command that took the company from selling only small tonnage equipment to have one of the largest big tonnage footprint on the Island was replaced by bean counters that did not knew what a window unit was or how it worked. How five of the most experienced service techs with more that 150 years of service between them were forced to retire. How product quality lost to profit, and costumer satisfaction was second to end of the month invoicing. How people who knew nothing about the product or the bussiness started making calls just because an Excel spreadsheet said so!! I could take it no more and left to McQuay.

This has nothing to do with how much York was in debt, or how much the stock was priced at or nothing like that, it has more to do with how an employee would have stood behind the company and do the best he could to see it succeed and how good we felt working for it, and I was not the only one that felt that way, I am sure there are Trane or Carrier guys out there that feel the same way for their brand, giving each other hell, or entering the fight mode everytime we see each other vans out there, or saying such and such is a better unit, is just a reflection of that pride, now imagine that pride being stepped on. I still have good friends on that branch and the news that I get from them are bleaker with every passing day, now I am on a mission to give them hell, to help my current employer in every way I can to outsell and outservice JCI, they deserve no less.

Sorry again for the dead horse beating, feel better now jeje

Regards
Fabregas

I remember that ad, it was around the time national accounts took off getting cvs.

Feelin'Better is a great song, can fit everyones life with a few changes

Wow, see this thread is still going. I heard a older song the other day that pretty fitting to me and for me. If you changed the lyrics from his line of work to mine. (lol, before everyone starts cracking on me, i'm serious! So Bite Me! :-)...)It was Hank Williams Jr song- Feelin' Better !!!

Originally Posted by maxster

anybody ever see this ad that never made it to the trade magazines saw it in the York office i was in back in 2003.right around the time they wanted all Olympic items removed was that pre JCI. the wording came down to a draw on who was better working on equipment...i'll scan the entire add..

Yep we had a picture of that in our office to. I did enjoy taking pictures of some of JCI's workmanship after they took over gave it to the Supervisor and
he would tape it to the wall for the managers to see opps !

anybody ever see this ad that never made it to the trade magazines saw it in the York office i was in back in 2003.right around the time they wanted all Olympic items removed was that pre JCI. the wording came down to a draw on who was better working on equipment...i'll scan the entire add..

Originally Posted by double bubble

I was with York for three years and now JCI for six years , it was going corporate at york in those three years anyone remember york handheld computers ?
Well I think the whole buisness has changed , heck the world has changed . Figure its no different at Trane , Carrier , or McQuack .

Yep it was Sieble or better known as York Connect sink 9:00am and then at 9:00pm never had a problem with it only the office did.

I was with York for three years and now JCI for six years , it was going corporate at york in those three years anyone remember york handheld computers ?
Well I think the whole buisness has changed , heck the world has changed . Figure its no different at Trane , Carrier , or McQuack .

nope, not at all. never get better.
trane, carrier, & mcquay all knocking on the door.

there is one old timer a few years from retirement, once he goes, i will probably move on. take my old apprentice(now a jm) with me...

Originally Posted by phil53

Stumbled across the site and found this thread... hit home a bit. did my whole apprenticeship at york + 3 years as a jm before jci ruined it, still holding on for some unknown reason. still bleed carribbean blue i guess.

I never thought of ever leaving york, I woke up every morning happy to go to work. I think about leaving jci daily, dont care to go in to work majority of the time.

most of the sales team went to mcquay, i dont think there is anyone in the sales office that now knows what a centrifugal chiller is.

You think it's gonna get better?

Stumbled across the site and found this thread... hit home a bit. did my whole apprenticeship at york + 3 years as a jm before jci ruined it, still holding on for some unknown reason. still bleed carribbean blue i guess.

I never thought of ever leaving york, I woke up every morning happy to go to work. I think about leaving jci daily, dont care to go in to work majority of the time.

most of the sales team went to mcquay, i dont think there is anyone in the sales office that now knows what a centrifugal chiller is.

Cool, guys. Yeah, some of the sections on this site make for some good entertainment. Well, enough of this:

Originally Posted by jayguy

no harm was meant...against anyone...just having fun!

i have used the 'telethon' line for anyone who goes on and on about how bad their lot in life is. i knew kloves line was also mean in jest.

Originally Posted by Nuclrchiller

Klove and Jayguy, I know it was meant in fun. It was taken that way. I didn't mean to come across as thin-skinned or offended. I thought it (the telethon for Klove comment) was funny and I really was grinning when I posted that. When I saw the word "telethon", I just thought of the MDA telethons that Jerry Lewis used to host. I did not intend to put words into anyone's mouth. I hope we're all good. As far as I'm concerned we are By the way, Jack (my stepson) has an excellent sense of humor and I'm sure he would be laughing at this, too.

I want both of you to know that I'm deeply hurt, terribly distressed, and more than likely irreparably damaged because of the blatant political incorrectness and the overwhelming amount of insensitivity that was shown by all who participated in this little melodrama. The shame of it all!!! I think I'm just gonna go out back an' eat worms an' die!!!............



Wanna see some real comedy?? Go to the job discussion section. There's more hurt feelings there than Carters got little pills..........

Originally Posted by Nuclrchiller

Klove and Jayguy, I know it was meant in fun. It was taken that way. I didn't mean to come across as thin-skinned or offended. I thought it (the telethon for Klove comment) was funny and I really was grinning when I posted that. When I saw the word "telethon", I just thought of the MDA telethons that Jerry Lewis used to host. I did not intend to put words into anyone's mouth. I hope we're all good. As far as I'm concerned we are By the way, Jack (my stepson) has an excellent sense of humor and I'm sure he would be laughing at this, too.

we be good, gooder and goodest!

Klove and Jayguy, I know it was meant in fun. It was taken that way. I didn't mean to come across as thin-skinned or offended. I thought it (the telethon for Klove comment) was funny and I really was grinning when I posted that. When I saw the word "telethon", I just thought of the MDA telethons that Jerry Lewis used to host. I did not intend to put words into anyone's mouth. I hope we're all good. As far as I'm concerned we are By the way, Jack (my stepson) has an excellent sense of humor and I'm sure he would be laughing at this, too.

Originally Posted by klove

I don't think it was meant towards Jerry's Kids. Maybe "government bailout" would have been a better term. Either way, I thought it dripped with sarcasm, which I felt went along well with the intent of that part of my original rant....

no harm was meant...against anyone...just having fun!

i have used the 'telethon' line for anyone who goes on and on about how bad their lot in life is. i knew kloves line was also mean in jest.

Originally Posted by Nuclrchiller

There's a joke in there somewhere about Klove and Jerry's kids, BUT, my stepson has a learning disability. My responsible side wants to kick my giggling side's @ss. ( bad dog-me)

I don't think it was meant towards Jerry's Kids. Maybe "government bailout" would have been a better term. Either way, I thought it dripped with sarcasm, which I felt went along well with the intent of that part of my original rant....

Originally Posted by rednecktech

then if yall are so glad to be gone then why are you being a smart ass ? That is a bit confusing ?? I have worked for companies that were great but i did not like how they ran things , did that make them bad or make me run my mouth about them after i left ? NO should I ??? They obviously know how they need to run their business to stay in business so who am i to HATE ? Heck if it was you with 140k employees and stockholders and the bottom line and worth Tons ,you may run it the same way . obviously weather its JCI or some 30million dollar mom and pop residential company in buisness and growing for 120 years ....they must kinda know what they are doing weather you like it or not lol I cant fault results and success and longevity of buisness ,even if its at the result of pissing off a few people . Godspeed

Got news for ya', red - you're the one that came on here spoutin' off about numbers in a way that proved that you don't have a clue about how to run a business. All I did was educate you on how to figure percentages. How does you not being able to figure debt percentage make me a smartass?

I'm not glad to be gone from York, but I would never have gone to work for jci in the first place. Some of us were bought and sold as pawns in a game, and it wasn't a game to us, nor was it by choice. I sweated blood for a company for many years only to have someone come along and say that the name that I worked under wasn't good enough so we'll give you ours - you should be proud. Myself and others earned the right to voice our opinions about what happened. If you have an issue with my opinion, then don't listen. And stop acting like my (our) opinion of jci is a personal attack against you, unless you're one of the ones that had something to do with the aforementioned activities, in which case it is.......

(And it's "whether")