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Many thanks to both S2sam & simux for your assistance and advice. Luckily, with a "little" grumbling, I was able to obtain a copy of the Hvacpro 8.08b patch. This patch instantly resolved my communication issues- and I can now upload/download/commission UNTs. I was able to get my customer up & going. Thank you!

Originally Posted by littled2012

Thank you s2am! Because of upgrades JCI has implemented, the workstation no longer is physically connected to N2- uses java script now. And yes, I am worried that it won't solve my issues, but I don't have too many options at this point. Again-thinking I paid for the patch the 1st time, but...it is what it is.
Thank you!

Good day,

You are most welcome.

Although your computer is not currently connected to the N2 bus, you can (temporarily) install your HVAC pro to another computer/laptop and use your CVTPro/Edgeport and directly connect this computer to the UNT in question... i.e. disconnect the UNT's N2 connector from your N2 network and directly connect the CVTPro to the UNT's N2 port. The issue is can you get access to the UNT? If you can, then this would be a good option and potentially get you out of spending additional $$$.

Just a thought.

Cheers,

Sam

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Thank you s2am! Because of upgrades JCI has implemented, the workstation no longer is physically connected to N2- uses java script now. And yes, I am worried that it won't solve my issues, but I don't have too many options at this point. Again-thinking I paid for the patch the 1st time, but...it is what it is.
Thank you!

Originally Posted by littled2012

I am in the same boat that pianoman was; cannot communicate with (ZB) UNT's. Using an XP, with edgeport/1, 1st get "jcserial error code is 1068" then 'communication error: communication not initialized.' With a Windows ME WITH serial port, I get the communication not initialized one. "All" I want is to upload, download & commission replacement UNT's for the school district we do maintenance for.
A year ago, we purchased the AS-CVTpro300-1, edgeport/1, and Mtools 5.4.2, which included Hvacpro 8.08 from an online vendor who now says I have to buy an upgrade in order to get the patch. It has been sitting on the shelf since then. I pointed out to this vendor that since the patch has been around since at least 12.2009, that said patch should have been included in purchase in 12/2011. I have also talked to additional vendors; a JCI account manager, who was very nice, but so far, not able to point me in any direction but additional ABCS and screen capture of tech bulletins; our local hvac guy who works with JCI, our local JCI branch; read all kinds of literature from the JCI site, and lots of other resources, including this wonderful forum (no sarcasm intended!) I am out of luck so far, and definitely running low on patience.
Would anyone be able to point me in the direction of succesfully acquring 8.08b hvacpro patch? I understand I will have to pay for it because no one took this off the shelf to work with before now (how hard can it be? definitely sarcasm.) I just need to get these units going... Thank you

Good day,

I would ensure that you confirm without question that the patch will overcome the issue you are having. Secondly, have you tried accessing the UNT via the N2 bus? If not, then I would try the N2 bus route, as this may do what you want without you having to spend the extra dollars on the upgrade patch.

Cheers,

Sam

I am in the same boat that pianoman was; cannot communicate with (ZB) UNT's. Using an XP, with edgeport/1, 1st get "jcserial error code is 1068" then 'communication error: communication not initialized.' With a Windows ME WITH serial port, I get the communication not initialized one. "All" I want is to upload, download & commission replacement UNT's for the school district we do maintenance for.
A year ago, we purchased the AS-CVTpro300-1, edgeport/1, and Mtools 5.4.2, which included Hvacpro 8.08 from an online vendor who now says I have to buy an upgrade in order to get the patch. It has been sitting on the shelf since then. I pointed out to this vendor that since the patch has been around since at least 12.2009, that said patch should have been included in purchase in 12/2011. I have also talked to additional vendors; a JCI account manager, who was very nice, but so far, not able to point me in any direction but additional ABCS and screen capture of tech bulletins; our local hvac guy who works with JCI, our local JCI branch; read all kinds of literature from the JCI site, and lots of other resources, including this wonderful forum (no sarcasm intended!) I am out of luck so far, and definitely running low on patience.
Would anyone be able to point me in the direction of succesfully acquring 8.08b hvacpro patch? I understand I will have to pay for it because no one took this off the shelf to work with before now (how hard can it be? definitely sarcasm.) I just need to get these units going... Thank you

M-Tool and Vista

Thanks Vortech for the information.

Originally Posted by simux

I'm always interested in why someone would quit drinking the blue kool-aid???

well, more money less stress and way less BS - besides that blue kool aide taste really bad kinda like:

Blue Bull energy drink: More Energy so you can do more for less pay and the side of the can has Excuses (Bull) why this and that are not done on time or correctly.

just a lil tounge in cheek for the Blue Bashers....

Big Blue

I'm always interested in why someone would quit drinking the blue kool-aid???

Originally Posted by craigam1

Were you confortable using this modifacation.

has not failed yet, But I no longer work for big blue and dont use it anywhere as much as I once did, I guess I posted just to let you know there are way to get things to work, just dont call big blue for support

to me vmware is better then 3 laptops....

take a peek the applications do not know there not on a "real computer"

http://www.vmware.com/products/ws/

-V-

Were you confortable using this modifacation.

Originally Posted by craigam1

What type of problems will I have if I install M-tool with Vista on my laptop?

lots, I managed to get m-tools, SCT and CCT to run on a vista 64bit laptop by using VMware to create a winXP pro environment, Works good needs lots of memory though


-V-

M-Tool and Vista

What type of problems will I have if I install M-tool with Vista on my laptop?

CVT's are garbage. If you only use zone bus you are much better off with the old white box. It is reliable and easy to use and will work with patch and win xp as long as you have a serial port. Instead of buying CVT I would get a laptop with serial port on it. You will be much better off. I had times when the CVT would act up or not talk but the old white box never let me down.

Originally Posted by berg2666

Try the SSquared box . Has N2 without the need for a power source...

Good day All,

Also the latest S2USB485 device (since 7/2008) has two additional features that set it apart from any other USB to N2 (RS-485) device:

1. Robust and sophisticated overvoltage protection on the N2 bus... you can connect the N2 interface to over 24V without issue... which can happen if one is not careful

2. Built-in N2 bus electrical analysis and diagnoses (shorted or crossed connections, etc) using free software (S2USB485DiagN2) on our website...

Cheers,

Sam

Sorry, I forgot to mention we use the serial port - not USB.

We use the AS-CBLPRO-2 with XP. It works well and we have seen a need to purchase a CVTPO yet.

The Cablepro ONLY works with WIN98 so my suggestion would be go ahead a pop for the AS-CVTPRO300 it works with both serial (9 pin) ports and USB.

FYI, to use the CVTPRO with a serial port Laptop you have to buy/build a staright through 9X9 cable.

Doesn't that suck ! I have tried almost everything but nothing but the CVTPRO work on the Zone Bus that I have found.

I would also buy the B&B converter, it comes in very handy cause it does not need external power for N2 Bus usage

Kelly, Blackbelt, berg, Vortech, Dynawiderider:
I can’t thank you enough for your guidance. I’m in IT so this is all new to me.

I should have mentioned in my first post that I am only using this laptop for zone bus, not N2. I contacted a sales rep from S2inovations who was extremely helpful. I learned that JC is the only vendor in the universe who sells a USB to Zone bus solution using HVAC pro.

I’ve priced a CVTPro from JC for just over $500. Now my only question is...

Do I put the CBLPRO in the storage drawer of my desk and purchase the CVTPro or do I buy a new laptop with a serial port?

This will be for my company’s engineering dept. so disregarding price, what would better serve the guys who will be using this?

Your thoughts are appreciated.

Put the AS-CBLPRO-2 in the storage drawer of your desk. I will never work with WinXP, only Win98 (it's only good for ZTU's, LCP's and old style Palm Pilots now). Get the 8.08b patch. I can email it if you need it. (email in profile) Put your email in your profile, please !

B&B Electronics sells an RS232 to RS485 port powered device, works Sweet !

I'll post P/N later, can't remember right this second.( P/N is B&B Electroincs "485SD9TB") costs about 80 bucks and works with the Digi Edgeport/1 previously mentioned.

If you buy the AS-CVTPRO300-? you get the Edgeport/1 and the JC box but it's gonna set ya back about 4 bills or better.